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Indian Company Shows Off Sub-$200 Laptop

geo_2677 writes "The Indian company which came out with the Simputer has now come with a PC which cost roughly INR 10,000; that's just about US $200. The project was backed by the Indian government R&D department Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR)." Geo2677 points out an article on the low-cost computer at hinduonline.net and another at the Times of India, and writes "The new PC is Linux-based and has office applications, a browser and audio/video capabilities. With a keyboard that can be rolled up, it looks pretty sleek. A U.S. company is already using it in pilot projects, and many more have shown interest. The Indian government hopes that this will push the PC revolution to the masses. It aimed for home users and small businesses/shops. The PC penetration in India is very low, at a measly 13 million, due to the high costs involved."

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  1. interesting by tont0r · · Score: 5, Insightful

    after watching a few "internet PC's" drop off the face of the earth due to the fact that it was $300 and all it did was internet, it would be interesting to see how well this actual PC would end up doing. $200 for basically something that can do work processing, internet, music?(not sure since they didnt specify what they mean by audio...) but still. thats a hell of a deal. and big surprise.. it came from india :).

    1. Re:interesting by harrkev · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If history is any indicator, this will bomb. I have seen more than a few "sub-(one/two/three)-hundred-dollar" systems. They are eventually built, greeted with millions of yawns, and soon disappear. What makes this one any different?

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  2. Re:Ok, so, no storage... by GweeDo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "but will have built-in memory"

    More than likely it has some built in CF memory or something like that. Even if it is only 512MB...for Word docs and web browsing how much do you need? I would bet the apps are in some form of flash memory or something (similar to a PDA) so no worries there.

  3. Interesting.. by slavemowgli · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's certainly interesting, but the screen (with a size of 7,5") really seems a bit small. I understand that you can't attach a huge screen to a laptop and still be able to charge a low price like that, but I'm not sure whether this is big enough to actually use the thing as a real computer instead of as a better PDA or cell phone.

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  4. Re:Ok, so, no storage... by garcia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Even if it is only 512MB...for Word docs and web browsing how much do you need?

    Well, if you had read the non-slashdotted article:

    Vinay L. Deshpande, chairman and chief executive officer of Encore Software, told a press conference the system would have the essential features of a conventional personal computer: everyday applications such as word processing, spreadsheet, personal information manager, e-mail and web-browser. It will play music and movies, have text-to-speech conversion facility and built-in local-language support.

    Movies and music on 512MB? Get serious. As I said, you will likely be shelling out 150+ for memory. I found it VERY suspicious that they were touting the price when they aren't including any storage space.

    $199 doesn't impress me with slow specs and no storage.

  5. Re:Ok, so, no storage... by GweeDo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While 512MB isn't gonna work for movies, it is fine for music. I have a 512MB iPod Shuffle and love it. For features like that they probably intend for you to sync it with a desktop.

    If you are someone with NO computer at all in India right now do you really think no movie/music support is the end of the world?

  6. Re:Ok, so, no storage... by EpsCylonB · · Score: 3, Insightful

    in india ?

  7. Re:Tandy 100 reborn? by King_TJ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's funny you mention that old Tandy laptop, because I was thinking something similar myself!
    I don't own one of those myself, but I remember their "golden age" of popularity. A *good* number of news reporters carried one with them to write all of their articles on while traveling.

    This very well might be just what people over in India need to get into the "computer revolution". But as you've pointed out, it seems that keeping it real basic/simple is the way MOST of us got started.

    I used computers for years before ever considering the purchase of a hard drive for one of them! For a long time, I couldn't even imagine possessing enough code to need something that big to store it on! When you create a computer that has all of its basic applications and functionality built into ROM memory, you create a framework... boundaries if you will, on what that particular computer is *meant* to do. As long as you've got the "sweet spot" of what folks need to get done contained in that "framework" and the price is right, you probably have yourself a very useful little tool.

  8. Re:Ok, so, no storage... by aalobode · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The article available at the attached URL indicates that the memory size is 128MB. The point is that AT THE PRESENT TIME, the low-income segment of the population has no easy way to acquire a computer or, after acquiring it, pay for maintenance, power, and upgrades. So a sturdy, no-frills machine is best. As time goes by, their needs will rise and the cost of technology will drop and there will still be a happy intersection of these two graphs. Think of TV: in the 1970s Indians were introduced to black-and-white models and Lucy re-runs. I remember, living then in India, marvelling at a color TV at an international trade show in Delhi in Jan. 1981. Today such things are commonplace in high quality, and the infrastructure (really cheap cable service) has expanded to satisfy the demands. So this sort of thing is good for the common person. http://news.com.com/Indian+firm+unveils+low-cost+L inux-based+PCs/2100-1042_3-5701552.html?tag=nl

  9. Re:Numbers numbers numbers by nganju · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Misinterpretation of statistics. GDP per capita in India is $3,100 but what is the standard deviation? Here's a badly formatted PDF with more detailed numbers. You can see that roughly 30 million households have an income of $5000 or more. If they all bought pc's it would more than double the penetration in India.

    Not to mention that PC penetration here did not occur last week, when computers were 1/20th of income. Penetration in the U.S. happened more than 10 years ago, when PC's were $3-4k and GDP was ~$25k.

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  10. Re:Just to note.. by pe1rxq · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because a laptop with a reasonable battery and a good powersupply will let you work on sub standard power grid....
    Your desktop pc is going crazy as soon as the ac outlet produces something funny.

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  11. Indians don't want stripped-down computers by migs · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My prediction is that all attempts at selling what most people would consider inferior computers will not work. Not in India nor in any other developing country.

    What many people from rich countries do not realize, is that people in countries like India have a different set of priorities. If you go to any slum you will notice that even though housing is terrible, plumbing is non-existent, and garbage is strewn everywhere, many people own televisions, refrigerators, radios, cell phones, etc.

    I don't see any reason why computer ownership will be an exception to the rule. Poor people will want their kids to have the same computers as rich people do (perhaps with less RAM, smaller monitor, etc), and will not be interested in buying a computer designed for the poor.

    One more note... a lot of statistics about computer users in developing countries are very misleading. For example, the CIA claims that there are about 18.4 million Internet users in India, but if you travel to any Indian city you will see Internet cafes everywhere, all crowded with people. There may be 18.4 million subscribers to Internet services, but the actual number of individuals with Hotmail/Yahoo/Rediff accounts is probably a lot higher, perhaps even 10 times higher.

  12. Re:Ok, so, no storage... by jamiethehutt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    $199 doesn't impress me with slow specs and no storage.

    Does it let me browse the Internet? Yes.
    Does it run linux? Yes.
    Does it have a good battery life? Yes.
    Is it cheap? Yes.
    Is it portable? Yes.
    Do 1Gb USB keys cost next to nothing? Yes.

    I'd snatch one up at the first chance I got.

    My AthlonXP 1700 desktop is 84% idle with a load average of 0.36 0.39 0.40, I dont think I'd have a problem if this thing was 100-200Mhz to be honest. Oh, I'm currently running Overnet (edonkey2k), Konqueror, XMMS playing MP3s, Abiword, Firefox, Eterm, a transparent xdaliclock, and Enlightenment 16 with lots of eye candy turned on.