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Enterprise Finale Airing Tonight
Tycoon Guy writes "Be sure to tune in to UPN tonight, where they're going to show the 'true finale' of Enterprise with the episode Terra Prime, followed by the post-season coda, These Are The Voyages. The latter will feature appearances by Troi, Riker, and a completely CGI Enterprise-D."
Since it appears that this will be the episode where we find out that "Enterprise" is actually a holo-recreation, it would be nice to have Lt. Barclay in there also since he was always doing fun holodeck stuff.
It's a shame that Archer, Trip, T'Pol...are actually all holo-characters just like Moriarty
Mentally, I never made it past the first episode. The Klingon in the cornfield was a touch much to stomache, and then when the electronics in Enterprise looked more sophisticated than in the Original Series, I just couldn't do it. I think trying to make a prequel to the Original Series, but having it tie into the later series whilst bypassing the Original, was a fundamental flaw. I really hope they don't try another Trek series until they have someone at the helm who truly understands what makes Trek great (hint: it ain't the technobabble).
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We'll probably have to wait a while. Personally, I don't want to see more Star Trek until they get Tweedledee and Tweedledum out of the producers' chairs. They stood on the shoulders of a giant and made a mess of his vision. Perhaps bring in some of the authors of Star Trek novels? Several of those books are pretty good reads... As for a time period, I'm thinking maybe post-Voyager (but not too long after).
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For real action, my choice of Sci-Fi is Stargate SG-1. With the exception of Season 7, it doesn't suffer from that "let's sit in a room and push buttons" syndrome that Star Trek has had problems with since the original movies. If I want to watch people explore then I really want to see them leave the room, and SG-1 is always shooting outdoors. (It's really funny how all the planets that they visit seem to look a lot like the Vancouver, B.C. area though.)
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In the blurb about "These Are The Voyages" on Trek Nation, Brannon Braga says:
"Some of the Enterprise cast members were very hurt that we would put Next Generation cast members on Enterprise."
They should have been more hurt that Braga and Company gave them such drek to perform in.
Maybe the next series or movie will be something actually *good*, instead of what ever rejected story line Paramount happened to have laying around the day someone said "Let's make a new Trek series!!!"
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Where it'll be preempted for basketball.
DOH! I spoke too soon - it'll be delayed two hours and aired at 9PM.
Wow, the season finale must be _important_ - usually they just go with Malcolm
at its usual 9PM and delay Enterprise until 2AM Saturday!
You never can tell when or if Enterprise will be on. No wonder it got poor ratings - we can't find it even if we try.
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I hated Quantum Leap, and found Bakula very annoying in it, and I have to say he actually exceeded my expectations in Enterprise.
I have yet to understand why anyone ever liked Quantum Leap - it was like an entire season of trek where every single episode was a holodeck piece.
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I'm with you on that one. Back when I was a young infantry officer in the Army, the three other lieutenants in my company and I used to get together at our CO's house to watch the latest Next Generation episode.
We would get into blistering arguments about the leadership styles of Picard and Kirk. Two of the guys came down in favor of Kirk, and three of us (including our boss, the CO), though Picard was a better leader. We actually had extensive discussions about it, comparing their actions on various episodes to examples from the Army's leadership manuals, books we'd read about leadership, and our own real-world examples.
A few months after these regular Trek sessions started, we were deployed to a rather remote part of Somalia. The CO asked his wife to record and send episodes, even though being a light infantry company we deployed with no real luxury items. Sure enough, several weeks after arriving in Somalia, we received a tape with two episodes. By then a heavy engineer unit had colocated with us, and we were able to phinagle a couple of hours on their TV late one night between patrols.
Strange though it may sound, that night spent watching Trek with a generator humming loudly outside in the hot Somali air was one of the best cinematic experiences of my life.
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I strongly suggest checking out the recent Mirror Universe episodes, as these represent some of the strongest points of all Season four. Also theres a rather amusing episode regarding Archer receiving some Orion slave girls (from the orig. series), and lots more.
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There isn't much in the way of crap in Season 4, the only truly bad episodes were Storm Front pt. 1 & 2, but then that was when the new writing team were trying to dig the series out of the hole B&B had dug so...
All in all this season was fantastic, and no doubt a lot of seasoned Trekkies will be getting this season alone on DVD and putting 1,2 and 3 out of their minds, myself included.
Oh and regards the basketball scene, it did hark back to those holodeck fantasys or Data with his cat/on Ten Forward, again a great addition to the show.
Of course, I think the best thing Shatner ever did was a "book-on-tape" of the first chapter of Foundation and a somewhat obscure (to me at least) but nonetheless wonderful short story called "Mimsy Were the Borogoves".
Nah, Patrick Stewart is definitely a much better actor with the guy who plays Sisco (can't remember his name, my geek card will now be temporarily suspended) at a good second place. Shatner only lives off of poking fun at his own campy style.
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The writers on that show actually planned out what would happen through an entire season before shooting the first episode, that let it develop the big stories it needed.
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Here's what I didn't like about it: There's all this really amazing stuff going on at Earth. Humans have just learned they're not alone. They've just received technology that basically makes economics impotent, as well as technology that allows them to spread throughout the galaxy.
What do they do? Go far, far away from Earth! Nobody cares about politics or other stuff. There's a species with three genders we've never heard of! There's a temporal cold war! How about making contact with the Romulans? Nobody wants to watch things about how people deal with life-changing events.
The last season has really picked up. The idea of Terra Prime is excellent. If they had run with this idea from the beginning, maybe they'd have a seven year run like TNG.
Obligatory: Berman and Braga killed it.
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Andy Griffith's like a lot of other classic TV -- if you watch it now next to the latest crop of new sitcoms, you realize how well-written the thing was. Each episode's basically a little one-act play, and it's pretty tight writing. It's basically superior to Enterprise in the traits you're talking about, despite no story arc from episode to episode. That would explain why people still remember favorite episodes of Andy Griffith decades after its run ended, whereas Enterprise is dying of neglect despite a colossal built-in audience.
TV used to do so much better with character actors than it does now. The Mary Tyler Moore show wasn't episode after episode of "Mary goes on another date," you know? (Ted, Murray, Lou Grant, Sue Ellen, Rhoda, Phyllis, Georgette.)Heck, "Leave It to Beaver" looks like a friggin' Pulitzer Prize-winning play next to Voyager or Enterprise, and the cast of regulars was more interesting, despite them all being whitebread suburbanites.
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The critical difference was that there hadn't been a Star Trek TV show since 1968, so the fans were far more willing to forgive the TNG cast and writers. Enterprise came something like thirteen or fourteen seasons into Star Trek series, and on the heals of the crap that was Voyager. Fans were expecting improvement, not idiotic temporal war crapola. They were hoping to see the foundation of the Federation, not soft porn. There was no room for forgiveness or patience this time.
I didn't see it at all. I thought the actors were for the most part mediocre, the characters rather wooden, and while things did loosen up slightly, all in all, it was just the same sort of schtick we'd seen with Voyager; uninspired drivel. After they brought the Borg back and totally smashed any notion of continuity, I stopped watching it.
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That would be *Commodore* Decker (outranked Kirk, which is why he was able to endanger the Enterprise). His son was the guy in the first ST movie that ended up merging with V'ger and whasername played by Persis Khambatta.
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Picard is a wimp. Kirk is a man's man.
Picard trys to go by the Prime Directive, even if it means misery for people on the planet. Kirk always violated it, because he put the good fortune of others ahead of a buerocratic/pollitical idea.
Picard always tries to get out of fighting, if possible, tries to reason with Klingons, etc. Kirk knows that he has an edge in fighting, and that Klingons, etc won't listen to reason anyway.
Picard always is concerned for the safety of his crew, and never has the engineer exceed safety regulations. Kirk knows that his engineer is smart enough to exceed safety regulations without endangering the crew.
Picard is a prude, doesn't have many girlfriends. Kirk has a woman on every planet, and apparently spread his seed across the galaxy.
Picard does not know how to fight, someone stronger than him can easily take him out. When faced with a genetically engineered madman with ten times his strength, Kirk evened the odds with a pipe.
Picard is bald, even in the future there is no cure for baldness. Kirk lost some hair, but was smart enough to join the hair club for men or wear a toupee.
Picard crashed his ship due to his mismanagement. Kirk set his ship to self destruct so the Klingons wouldn't get it, and it would take some Klingons out when it blew up.
Kirk gave his own life to save Picard and the universe. Picard couldn't even save himself from his own clone, without having one of his crew (Data) sacrifice his life, because Picard is too much of a wimp.
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My first memory of Star Trek is tangential. I came upon my older bother and sister in the TV room watching a spaceship on the tube. I asked them if Star Trek was on; they "shushed" me. I sat watching with them and slowly realized that it was a real space mission, not the TV show. This must have been Apollo 8, 9, or 10 in 1967 or '68 -- there were three people in the ship and I know it wasn't the first moon landing.
This early memory (I was born in '63) tells me that I knew at the time what Star Trek was, though I don't have distinct memories of the episodes or watching it during the first seasons.
While this is a time for geeks of my age to rejoice (we have the final Star Trek episode and the final Star Wars movie now - I was 14 in 1977 for the debut of Star Wars), Star Trek has always been closer for me. Going back to that time, the future then was a dark thing: Cold War, oil shortages, stagflation, Club of Rome, overpopulation . . . the list goes on. Star Trek provided an optimistic view of a future world - not without pain and suffering to achieve it, but a final world in which the differences of the '60's and 70's were achieved.
Well, boys and girls, we've reached that world; and not a little bit because there were fictional sources to point the proper way. Lt. Uhuru was the first major black character on a TV series. The Cold War is over; my beautiful wife is Hungarian, inaccessible before behind the Iron Curtain - today, we have a boy and a girl together. It's not because of Star Trek - but Star Trek was a touchstone for many of us here in the west - a common vision and means of communication.
There is a previous memory in this list of watching Trek in Somolia. My memory is watching Star Trek 4 in Taipei, Taiwan, in a youth hostel almost entirely populated by non-Americans. Yet they shared so many of the visions. Truly, Hollywood is a powerful tool. Too bad too few of those in control have the vision of Gene Roddenbery.