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Microsoft Finalizes Its Desktop Search Software

Smelly Toejam writes "After a five month testing phase, Microsoft has released a final version of its much hyped desktop-search software. Major updates cited include the ability to pick and choose which files to index, and how often." From the article: "Microsoft is vying for new credibility in the multibillion-dollar Web search market dominated by Google and Yahoo--and central to its campaign is the desktop. With its Longhorn launch slated for next year, Microsoft is developing enhanced search software that combines navigation for Web and desktop files straight from the operating system. The toolbar is a step toward that goal."

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  1. How does it compare to Google's desktop search? by Karzz1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How does it compare to Google's desktop search? Has anyone compared them side-by-side? Alas, I don't have access to a Windows machine, so I cannot.

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    1. Re:How does it compare to Google's desktop search? by bdcrazy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The point is to not care where a file is. Then they can move everything to a server, and then to their systems so you have to pay to access everything, ie while saying it makes your life easier and more convienient. Knowing where a file is stored isn't as important as knowing how to find it which is their point.

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  2. Privacy Issue by bhadreshl · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have tried the Google Desktop Search and I was not impressed with the lack of options. I know google tries to simplify things, but this was way too simple. The main problem is the lack of Access Control Options. I don't trust anything indexing all my files. It just a privacy issue I have.

  3. Another desktop search by ralphart · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...That I've been using is Blinkx, which can be found at http://www.blinkx.com/overview.php. Very slick.

  4. Err...how often? by avalys · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Major updates cited include the ability to pick and choose which files to index, and how often

    Interesting...Apple's implementation is integrated into the filesystem layer, so it indexes everything as it is written to disk (or at least, very soon after, once I/O load has gone down).

    This doesn't seem to generate much of a performance hit, so I wonder why Microsoft is going for a different approach? Apple's seems to make more sense.

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  5. Re:As far as I can see... by youngerpants · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Simple, google desktop search with the "Larry's Any Text File Indexer". On installation you have to specify what file extensions to include in the search (e.g. *.HTML) et voila!


    Both available from the GDS page


    younger

  6. Speed performance? by rkischuk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does it take less than a half hour to search a full disk drive? If so, why not wire it into the OS in a service pack? The current Win XP search capability is abysmal and borderline useless. I don't care whether the search is on the desktop or not (I'd probably prefer not), but I'd like it to work.

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  7. We already have this... by suitepotato · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...it's part of MS Office, and it slows a machine as it constantly indexes the living fark out of your machine's docs and everything else for no better reason than MS thinks it should and that it should be part of the default Orifice install.

    I turn off this indexing feature every single time on every single machine to improve speed of use by a good 5%-10%.

    A full-depth indexing and searching service covering my entire machine would take up more space than the registry, be single massive point of failure for privacy should my machine be compromised, and a drain on my resources. If I am fairly competent at deciding where to put files and keep to that scheme, I shouldn't need to worry about indexing them.

    MS if anything should come up with a system file indexer to keep track of every copy of every .dll and other code file on a machine and note their versions, CRCs, signatures, etc...

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  8. Is it me? by sn0wflake · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is it me or is the standard Windows search utterly useless? Searching for text in files *never* return results even though I'm sure the text exist. That's why I've switches to Agent Ransack that does the job right. I'll bet this new super search enginge is nothing more than a fix to the pointless search tool in Explorer.

    1. Re:Is it me? by Anita+Coney · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I find it hilarious that Windows' built in search ignores the "Program Files" folder by default. That's where most programs store their files by default. Also it won't search subfolders by default.

      I seriously think that Microsoft WANTS its built-in search engine to suck. That way it can hype the search feature in Longhorn and get us to switch.

      Thankfully, third parties such as Google as showing us we don't need a new file system to search our own hard drive. That is forcing Microsoft to fix its own search app for free.

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    2. Re:Is it me? by AlexTheBeast · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Gesh people... this hack has been around forever. Just "Change Indexing Service Settings" in XP's search... and it will happily search through every file on your computer...

      The default XP just expects people to always name their text files either *.txt, *.doc, or whatever. For the rest of us... you need to tell it to search everything:

      XP: Have Windows Perform Word or Phrase Searches within Unknown Filetypes

  9. Why link desktop and web searches? by Mille+Mots · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I can't really see much point in integrating desktop searching with 'web' searching. For instance, if I'm looking for files on my local drive that contain the words 'weekend' and/or 'beach,' I don't really want results linking me to this or, worse yet, this.

    What I would really like to see on my lone Windows machine is something like:

    C:\> find ./ -type f -exec egrep "weekend|beach" {} \; -print
  10. WARNING Sticky Software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I installed it, let it index overnight, tried it, and not satisfied I then tried to uninstall it. Add/Remove said it couldn't uninstall because the installer was still running. Restart stalled and the Task Manager could not be invoked, so a forced powerdown was necessary. After rebooting, Add/Remove would let me uninstall, but the uninstall progress stuck at 100% for 30 minutes with no disk activity. Task Manager could be accessed this time, though, and the "running" MSN Toolbar was killed. What a pain!

    I'm sticking with Copernic Desktop, which indexes at least as well, doesn't require IE (I use Firefox), and has a fast, integrated document viewer.

  11. Try it out and you will care. by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The thing about these Desktop search features is that you don't think they are worth all that much until you acutally start using them. Being a Mac user didn't sit around holding my breath waiting for 'Spotlight'. I Installed OS.X 10.4 mainly in the hope for more stability, obtimization and bugfixes. Now that I do have 'Spotlight' at my fingertips I can not tell you how much time it saves to just hit [Command]+[Space, inputing the name of a file, folder, Application etc.... scrolling down the list with the arrow keys and hiting [Enter]. Compare this to clicking your way through an endless sequence of directories or menus or trying to find what ever it is you want on an overcrowded desktop. Desktop searching is easily one of the best time savers I have yet come across. I imagine this applies equally on a Windows or Linux boxen.

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  12. Re:Whoopee! by MagPulse · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Can you uninstall Spotlight from Tiger?