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Ebert Gives 'Sith' Positive Review

emerald demon writes "The world's authority on reviewing movies, Roger Ebert, has released his review of "Star Wars--Episode III: Revenge of the Sith." I noticed that Ebert & Roeper gave it a two thumbs up, but I assumed that Ebert was going to go for the minimum for giving his thumb up--two and a half stars. I was delighted to read his three and a half starred review. It seemed like he let a few things slip, but it's obvious that he enjoyed it. '"Episode III" has more action per square minute, I'd guess, than any of the previous five movies, and it is spectacular.' Bad dialogue as usual: 'To say that George Lucas cannot write a love scene is an understatement; greeting cards have expressed more passion.'"

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  1. Even Ebert acknowledges we may see SW 7-9 ... by Hulkster · · Score: 5, Informative
    For the Star Wars fans out there who don't RTFA, this was at the bottom: " Note: I said this is not necessarily the last of the "Star Wars" movies. Although Lucas has absolutely said he is finished with the series, it is inconceivable to me that 20th Century-Fox will willingly abandon the franchise, especially as Lucas has hinted that parts VII, VIII and IX exist at least in his mind. There will be enormous pressure for them to be made, if not by him, then by his deputies.

    But clicking on the submitted link is worth it just for the headline picture and the funny caption.

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    1. Re:Even Ebert acknowledges we may see SW 7-9 ... by MrAnnoyanceToYou · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I've heard about this too.... I've wanted Spielberg to direct one of these things FOREVER... Lucas is a fine director and all, but he doesn't have a line of Oscars across his wall for one of virtually every type of movie there is for a good reason.

      My guess is that we're never going to see this because Lucas has been treating Star Wars as a meal ticket that requires no good direction for at least 20 years.

      I like this particular quote, which I've found a few times in my ten minutes of searching:

      "I wanted to do one 15 years ago and he didn't want me to do it. I understand why--'Star Wars' is George's baby...this is George's franchise, it's his cottage industry and it's his fingerprints," said Spielberg. "He knows I've got 'Jurassic Park' and 'Raiders'. But George has 'Star Wars' and I don't think he feels inclined to share any of it with me." (1)

      My analysis : Lucas can't direct as well as Spielberg and knows it. Too bad, so sorry, but it ain't gonna happen.

    2. Re:Even Ebert acknowledges we may see SW 7-9 ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      There good too!

      Yes! Tarzan agree, there good.

      Here good, but not good as there.

    3. Re:Even Ebert acknowledges we may see SW 7-9 ... by pizzaman100 · · Score: 5, Funny
      Lucas couldn't let Spielberg direct because Spielburg is a member of the Directors Guild and Lucas is not. Lucas does not use guild members in his movies (and if he does they risk being kicked out of the guild). This all goes back to the disagreement that occured when he refused to run opening credits before ESB.

      There is a simple solution to this problem. Send Jedi to intervene in the trade dispute between the Lucas and the Guild.

  2. But enough about Star Wars... by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
    Lucas is working on Indiana Jones IV

    return to the temple of the revenge seeking crusader

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    A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
  3. Whoop-de-fuck by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He also gave 'The Phantom Menace' 3 and a half stars.

    A LOT of people, be it here on Slashdot or on other forus, are trying to convince me really really hard that RotS is a good movie. FINE. Show me a review from a guy who thought the first two movies were dreadfully boring! If THAT GUY can say the movie was decent, I'll have a better attitude about it. Otherwise, you're only appealing to those who are already going to see it.

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    "Derp de derp."
    1. Re:Whoop-de-fuck by Drakonian · · Score: 5, Informative
      Sure:

      Alexandra DuPont

      It's a girl, not a guy.

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      Random is the New Order.
  4. Expectations by Council · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is bad! The only thing that was going to save this movie was the low, low expectations!

    On the other hand, opinions of the Star Wars movies is so far from being grounded in reality -- there's just too much cultural weirdness -- that maybe people will be particularly swayed by the reviews. Prevailing wisdom and all. I mean, I walked out of Matrix Revolutions on opening night totally entertained and happy, and yet a month later, watching it again, I agreed that it was horrible.

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  5. This is priceless: by isotope23 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Bad dialogue as usual: 'To say that George Lucas cannot write a love scene is an understatement; greeting cards have expressed more passion.'"

    Hello? He's a GEEK! Before he got rich the closest he ever came to a love scene was
    most likely delivered monthly courtesy of hugh hefner.....

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    Service guarantees Citizenship! Questions Guarantee GITMO.... Amerika Uber Alles!
  6. Intelligent Reviews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the Guardian:-

    "Henceforth you will be known as Darth Vader!" These dire words, addressed to a tormented Anakin Skywalker as he crosses the threshold to the much-mentioned Dark Side, mark the definitive moment of his Luciferian journey, which will end with him in a black, neo-Wehrmacht helmet-mask, with incipient emphysema and a walk that makes him look as if he has had concrete hip replacements.

    It supposedly forms the mythic heart of the gigantic Third Episode of George Lucas's colossally inflated Star Wars prequel trilogy. Yet when this moment happens - after what seems like seven hours of CGI action as dramatically weightless as the movement of tropical fish in an aquarium - I looked blearily around the cinema and sensed thousands of scalps failing to prickle. We had all been bored into submission long ago.

    George Lucas is now not so much a director as chief executive-cum-potentate in charge of a vastly profitable franchise empire in which striking back is not an option. And within this empire's boundaries, Lucas is so mind-bogglingly powerful that none of his lieutenants dares tell him the truth: that yet another Something of the Something title, after Attack of the Clones and Return of the Jedi, is pretty annoying. (It's actually his fourth, if you count the original script title to the first Star Wars: Adventures of the Starkiller.) But here at any rate, finally, is the end of the road, or rather the middle of the road - the moment in 1977 where we came in. Lucas has taken three pointlessly long and artificially complicated movies to get to the point: precisely how did Luke Skywalker's father come to embrace the forces of darkness?

    Hayden Christensen is Anakin, the talented but mercurial Jedi pupil of Obi-Wan Kenobi, in which role Ewan McGregor wears a big and bushy beard, to indicate the aged wisdom that we know is his destiny. Their mighty contest is to be at the centre of this movie, during which in quiet moments leading characters will gaze out over massive futuristic cityscapes resembling the photorealist artwork once used for 1970s sci-fi paperbacks: pointy buildings with swarms of pointy aircraft criss-crossing overhead, often bathed in crimson sunsets.

    Once again, McGregor speaks in a simperingly lifeless Rada-English accent, a muddled and misconceived backdating of the Guinness original - the young fogey with the light-sabre. In boringness he is matched by that Jedi master of woodenness: Hayden Christensen, the flatliner to end all flatliners. As an actor Christensen must show the terrible embryo of future wickedness within himself. And how does he do this? By tilting his head down, looking up through lowered brows and giving the unmistakable impression that he is very, very cross. If Princess Diana had gone to the Dark Side, she would have looked a lot like this.

    So why does Anakin desert the forces of light? It is his passionate love and concern for his pregnant wife, Princess Amidala, coupled with a sense of his own slighted dignity that are to be the tragic and fateful factors leading to the most unconvincing evil act you can imagine, an event weirdly neutralised by the bloodless unreality that surrounds everything. The vicious Anakin massacres - oh, horror! - a bunch of innocent Jedi children.

    But that is not how Lucas's solemnly high-flown script chooses to refer to them. With sub-Shakespearian gravitas, McGregor intones: "Not even the younglings survived." I'm sorry, not even the what? Is that their surname or something? Are Mr and Mrs Youngling going to come home to find a nursery bloodbath?

    One of the things about the previous film, Attack of the Clones, that made you think things might be looking up was the terrific performance by Christopher Lee as the sinister Count Dooku. Almost the very first thing Lucas does here is kill him off. It is a crippling blow that leaves us with a range of scandalously dull secondary characters. People such as Senator Bail Organa, played by Jimmy Smits, and Samuel L Jackson as the fiercely uninte

  7. Google's objective review page by unk1911 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Google has a very good non-biased, objective review system in place. Check it out for this movie:

    http://www.google.com/reviews?cid=ba601666fe1a2e79 &oi=showtimes&fq=Star+Wars--Episode+III:+Revenge+o f+the+Sith/

    It pulls from many different sources

  8. IV by imdx80 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Any plans for a episode IV?

  9. Re:If Roger Says So.. by jfengel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most importantly, Ebert would tell you to ignore the star rating. He says he puts that there only because it's expected by the readers and required by the newspaper. It's totally lacking in context, for one thing: many people would rather see a two-star chopsocky than a four-star tearjerker. He tries to rate them relative to the expectations of the audience, but it still leaves a lot to be desired.

    Beyond that, even if you disagree with him on taste, you can learn a lot from his reviews. His skill is to be able to say why he liked a movie, or disliked it, and you can often use that to judge your opinion by his.

    He's a good writer. Or at least I think so. His reviews are fun to read. I find that's different from most reviewers, where the review looks like:
    * 1 paragraph snarky comments
    * N paragraphs of plot summary
    * One sentence each for the leads, the director, and a few other details

    It helps to be familiar with the reviewer's baises. Ebert is a huge fan of anime, so he adores some films that bore me silly. One advantage Ebert has over some other reviewers is that he's been at it forever, so there's a large body of reviews to calibrate your taste against.

    Ebert will tell you he's a critic, not a reviewer. His goal is to understand why movies succeed and fail. As an actor and director myself I find reviewers infuriating since they rarely understand the craft and usually misapportion blame and credit.

    Hey, if you've found a reviewer out there whose tastes match yours completely, bonus. If you're into genre pics, like horror or scifi, it may be easier to find somebody whose taste better matches yours; Ebert's taste runs in favor of dramas and literary types.

    For many people, Ebert fits that bill. If not, enjoy the movies anyway.

  10. The danger of the Star Wars franchise by SimianOverlord · · Score: 5, Funny

    As most users of this website must be aware, the original Star Wars was an influential worldwide film whose impact still resonates now, almost 30 years later. Unfortunately, some of the themes in the original Star Wars series have, in my opinion, contributed to the mindset of International terrorism, the cancer we see worldwide today.

    That's a controversial statement, so here's some proof. First of all, the side we are supposed to sympathise with were the rebels. Yes, a group of paramilitaries and other non-combatants who were fighting against a classical army structure providing order throughout the galaxy, the Empire. Here's the crux: the rebels never fought the empire in a conventional sense - they knew they would lose. So they went for "soft targets". Does any of this sound familiar??

    Let's look at this. The Terrorists/Rebels were repressed by a powerful enemy. Deprived of the means to fight back conventionallly, the Terrorists/Rebels were forced into guerilla tactics - concealment, ambush, and brainwashing (of the innocent small bears). It is the latter action I find most repugnant, morally. The rebels bribed the small bears first with food, then by masquerading as a deity figure encouraged them to attack a local outpost of the Empire. Now, there was no evidence the Empire had been anything other than a benevolent overlord to those bears. They were used shamelessly by the so-called good guys, and no-one raised an eyebrow.

    It was the movie "Clerks" which first brought this to my attention. In it, a character made the remark that the partially constructed so called "Death-star" must have been full of innocent tradesmen who had been contracted to work on the military project, their wives, their children, their favorite grandparents. The deaths of these innocent civilians was papered over in the film as nothing more than an impressive explosion. The butcher himself, Skywalker, was portrayed as some sort of hero.

    I have heard some argue that the rebels actions were justified by the Empires act in blowing up Aldebaran, Leia's home planet. Firstly I would beg you to remember that history is written by the victors. Did this peace loving planet Aldebaran even exist, or was it mere PsyOps? Did the "Deathstar" (actual name: FreedomLoveMoon) destroy anything larger than an asteroid? We can't tell - the filmmaker takes a biased treatment of the story from the outset, and the rebels conveniently destroyed the evidence. No attempt is made to give the Empire the right to reply to the allegations.

    My final point (I have many more but space is limited) is to look at Skywalkers conversion to the rebel cause. Does anyone else see something disturbing in the following description?: He goes out to the DESERT where he meets a religious extremist leader (Kenobi) who fills his head with ridiculous tales, ARMS and TRAINS him and then sets him on a veritable SUICIDE MISSION??? Who can honestly justify this?? PULL THIS FILTH OFF THE SHELVES.

    You may never have seen the original movies in this light. But it has been present in your subconscious, and the cultural subconsciousness of your elected leaders. Every time they had an opportunity to make a serious impact into terrorism, it was there, whispering treacherous thoughts of platitude. The dangerous mindset is so subtle it eluded notice, but influenced every decision. George Lucas should be hauled in front of Congress, and then executed. The current global terrorism emergency can be traced back to the moral relativism championed by the Star Wars franchise. He made a quick buck, we got global insecurity. Bastard.

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    Meine Schwester ist sehr, sehr reizvoll - Nietzsche
  11. Absolutely NO to SW 7-9 by seamus_waldron · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was at the Star Wars saga marathon on Monday at the Empire Cinema, Leicester Square, London, England. we saw all the SW movies, including Sith, starting at 7am and finishing at 11.30pm.

    George Lucas and others came in before Sith. The film was good, very good.

    Anyway, George snuck back into the cinema and stood at the back watching our (very positive) reactions to the movie, he then also came back at the end of the film. This never happens at these kinds of showings and remember, the PREMIERE was happening not 100 meters away at the Odeon cinema in Leicester Square.

    So, in answer to the chants of "we want 9", he said ;"Absolutely not...but I am working on Indiana Jones", which got a pretty bid roar from the crowd.

    Remember, there is to be a live action SW in the future, so the next film, if there is to be one, (my guess is that it) will be spun from that series.

    1. Re:Absolutely NO to SW 7-9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Empire Cinema, Leicester Square, London, England

      U.K., Northern Hemisphere, Earth, Solar System, Milky Way...

  12. Re:Bad acting too by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To be fair, Chrstensen wasn't given that much to work with, either script-wise or direction-wise. Under the best of circumstances, making a role like this compelling is difficult, and circumstances here are not the best.

    I have a theory that classically trained actors do better with science fiction and fantasy roles than actors with a more natural style.

    If you have to recite a laundry list, say it with flair.

    Hey, Ian McKellan was great as Gandalf, but he was also great as Magneto. Granted Magneto has a back story and all that, but I doubt McKellan read any comic books to get into the character's head. I bet he just quickly perused up the script, then headed back into the Shakespearean lumber room, emerging having nailed together a tragic villain performance the way Norm Abrams can transform a discarded shipping pallet into a piece of fine furniture.

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  13. Zahn's three. by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I concur. An interesting supporting cast, a villain who's not just a copy of Vader or Palpatine, and those wacky ysalamiri. (Fun to pronounce! Not as fun as 'noghri', but fun!)

    But, alas, they include the original cast, and unfortunately, real actors age. Eh, it's good to wipe the SF-on-film slate clean. No more Star Wars, no more Star Trek. Wonder what's next.

    --grendel drago

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    Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
  14. Watto! by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nah, I think it was funnier that Watto (the gigantic ugly blue flying rat with the huge, hooked nose) spoke with a bit of a Yiddish accent.

    I, for one, welcome our new crypto-Jewish slavemasters.

    --grendel drago

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    Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
  15. Should Lucas have made 7-9 instead ... ? by simong_oz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've started to think for a while now that maybe George's huge mistake was that he chose to make Ep1-3, rather than Episodes 7-9. I mean, we all know how it's going to end, and we all know the points the plot HAS to pass through, we all know who HAS to survive, etc, etc. There's no real freedom in there, except to fill in the minor details which don't advance the overall plot. The only "wow" factor he has up his sleeve is "wow the CG looks good".

    If he had made 7-9 instead, the story could go and end where he wanted, where the movie took it, where a logically paced movie naturally ended.

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    "Because it's there." - George Mallory, when asked why he wanted to climb Mt Everest, March 18, 1923 (New York Times)
    1. Re:Should Lucas have made 7-9 instead ... ? by ender- · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Personally I think the biggest problem with Ep1-3 isn't so much the story. Yeah so we know where it goes, but that doesn't me it the ride to get there can't be exciting.

      No the problem is money. Lucas has way too much of it. Especially for the first film [New Hope] there was a severe budget crunch. They were limited in both money and time. I think this forces a film team to make decisions that in the long run are good for the film. If you have no boundaries, you are more likely to throw in little bits that really have no business being in the movie. If you are limited, you are forced to trim the fat and leave the good bits. With the prequels, Lucas had no limits. He effectively had infinite money and time in which to make these films. As a result he wasn't forced to REALLY think about which parts worked to help the film and which didn't.

      Then again his dialog sucks either way, especially with love scenes. The general story of Ep 1 and 2 really aren't bad at all. They could have been great movies if the dialog [and to a lesser degree the acting] were better and if they'd been forced to really be picky about what they filmed.

  16. Re:What is it with this "complex politics" idea?!? by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, I thought the point there was pretty clear: it wasn't his mom's death (or the manner, or timing of it) per se, it was the anger at his own limitations, manifested as his inability to stop or reverse what happened. Mom's death brought it home to him, but what really got him was the knowledge that he's powerful, but just not that powerful... and he takes the route of partially blaming the Jedi (and Obi Wan) for being held back.

    This is pretty much like every teenager's episode of thinking that just because bad crap happens in life, that the universe must be particularly out to get them.

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