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Illinois Senate OKs Violent Games Bill
The Illinois senate has approved the violent games bill proposed by Gov. Rod Blagojevich. The bill was also passed by the House, but the Senate stripped the possibility of jail time out of the wording before approving it. The House must now reconsider the bill before it can be passed into law. From the article: "The sponsor, Sen. Deanna Demuzio, denied the measure would interfere with free speech rights.'Video games are not art or media,' she said. 'They are simulations, not all that different from the simulations used by the U.S. military in preparation for war.' Apparently I have been misinformed as to what exactly I've been doing for the last twenty-odd years. Thank you, Illinois Senate, for correcting my error.
That's funny. My sister has classes in art school to make 3D Art for Video Games.
I'm sure she would be surprised to learn that she is getting a "simulation" degree and not an Art degree.
Why can't our legislators deal with real problems, you know like our economy and the environment. Oh yeah, because this makes for an easy deamon.
How can they say that it's not art? What about pen and paper, then? It has it's roots in war simulations from way back when video wasn't feasable. Are books about war simulations, since they recreate the war as a visual image in our heads? The question I want answered now is what should and shouldn't be considered art, if practically everything can be considered a simulation by someone's standards?
The eternal struggle of good vs. evil begins within one's self.
The ESRB already has a rating system. Games too sexually explicit are rated 'A' and many retailers don't carry them.
I guess that doesn't cover violence though.
"Video games are not art or media," she said. "They are simulations, not all that different from the simulations used by the U.S. military in preparation for war."
,Compare the number of violent crimes related to computer games with those related to people taking bits from the bible a bit too literaly .
They are art and media , Some games atleast are comparable to works of literature other are stylistic master works.
Yet i doubt the lady would have any problem with kid reading great works of literature, religious books or historical documents , Alot of which have explicit violance which is far in excess of that of games.
These games do not turn people into violent sociopaths anymore than reading the bible/torah/tao te ching/quoran etc does
The numbers would fall heavily in favour of banning the book if we did .
The only things certain in war are Propaganda and Death. You can never be sure which is which though
Does this mean that I was simulating goomba smashing and princess rescuing all this time?
-Dipster
Let's float some other equally meaningful statements, for comparison's sake:
This is actually kind of fun, maybe someday I'll get elected to something and can use this kind of bizarre hyperbole to compare things I don't appreciate or understand to the military.Let her know how you feel demuzio@senatedem.state.il.us I know I am.
-Diomedes
Of course they're just simulations.
How else does one expect to get a job as a tetris engineer without first practicing in the simulator?
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Video games are not art or media? WTF! That's the last straw, I'm going to writing some real mail to express my displeasure with the idiocy coming out of the state house here. If you live in Illinois, I would encourage you to write as well. Here is a link to contact info for Sen. Deanna Demuzio.
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Capitol Address
Senator Deanna Demuzio
M106 Capitol Building
Springfield, IL 62706
Phone: (217) 782-8206
Fax: (217) 854-5311
District Address
Senator Deanna Demuzio
140 Carlinville Plaza
Carlinville, 62626
Phone: (217) 854-4441
Fax: (217) 854-5311
demuzio@senatedem.state.il.us
To the making of books there is no end, so let's get started
All this bill does, if I read it correctly, is create penalties for any store that sells games beyond a certain threshold (sexualy or violently, or both if you like it like that) to minors.
However, as I understand, the bill does not explain how violent or sexual is too much.
Frome the article:
The measure approved Thursday would require store owners to determine which games are too violent or sexually explicit for anyone under 18. Anyone selling them to a minor could be fined.
So who's making the decisions about what's too violent/sexual? Does the store owner determine what's inappropriate, but if (s)he sells it anyways, (s)he gets fined? No, that doesn't make any sense. Does the store owner decide what to sell, but then a parent disagrees with his decision and then he gets fined? Well, that would suck.
The reason I hate these restrictions is because they are invariably too vague and invariably done by people who have no clue (video games aren't media, they're stimulations, what?). If they just legally enforced the ESRB, I'ld be ok with that, though I'm sure if they can, since ESRB is a private organization. But people who don't play video games making up random restrictions? I'll pass.
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