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Apple Powerbook and iBook Battery Recall

doubleacr writes "The Register is reporting that Apple is recalling batteries in 12 and 15 inch Powerbook and 12 inch iBooks sold between October 2004 and May 2005. Apple has set up a page with info on model number and serial numbers of batteries affected, and also how to get a replacement."

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  1. affected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    affected, not effected

  2. Nah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I rather like my exploding iBattery, thanks.

  3. From the FAQ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Q. Can I use my iBook or PowerBook without the battery in it?

    A. Yes, once you've removed the affected battery, just plug in the AC adapter to power the computer.


    And I thought only Windows users were dumb. How silly of me!

    1. Re:From the FAQ by trampel · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's not quite that dumb. There are/were notebooks that won't run without a battery installed, maybe due to the design of their power circuitry.

      I remember the Powerbook 180, for instance.

    2. Re:From the FAQ by tehshen · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes, but Mac users are faster, better, and look prettier when they're being stupid ;)

      Reminded me of this.

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  4. Explains a lot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    So that's why it keeps smoking! I'm so used to overclocked systems I thought that was normal.

  5. Nuts, Not My Battery by Dr.+Transparent · · Score: 4, Funny
    And here I was hoping for a new battery. I missed it by a few production runs it appears.

    Maybe if I scratch the serial number up...

    1. Re:Nuts, Not My Battery by pantycrickets · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe if I scratch the serial number up...

      Then you'll be guilty of defacing a battery. A felony in most states!

    2. Re:Nuts, Not My Battery by Caltheos · · Score: 4, Funny

      More like you would be convicted of Assault on Battery

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    3. Re:Nuts, Not My Battery by tunesmith · · Score: 5, Funny

      assault on battery. :-)

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  6. From TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "...the components could overheat and catch figure."

    Get hot and strike a pose.

  7. Whatever you do.. by PopeAlien · · Score: 5, Funny

    DO NOT put them in a washing machine and puncture them with a screwdriver!

    1. Re:Whatever you do.. by HAKdragon · · Score: 5, Funny

      Homer Simpson: See? Because of me, now they have a warning

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  8. They can have my battery... by nathan+s · · Score: 4, Funny

    ..when they pry it from my cold, dead fing-

    Oh wait, this is a good thing. Nevermind. :-)

  9. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  10. Sounds like Good Business to Me by Delilah+Jones · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From the article:

    "Apple said the risk of combustion was very small. The recall comes after the US Consumer Product Safety Commission received six reports of batteries overheating, two from the US and the rest from around the globe."

    Six, man. SIX! And only TWO in the US!

    And they're taking what must be a pretty big loss just for the sake of having good business integrity.

    I dunno, man. Sounds pretty cool to me.

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    1. Re:Sounds like Good Business to Me by grahams · · Score: 4, Interesting
      And they're taking what must be a pretty big loss just for the sake of having good business integrity.
      A big loss for the battery company, probably not that big of a deal for Apple...
    2. Re:Sounds like Good Business to Me by FlopEJoe · · Score: 5, Interesting
      "Six, man. SIX! And only TWO in the US!"

      That's a lot better company support than Fight Club math:

      If a new car built by my company leaves Chicago traveling west at 60 miles per hour, and the rear differential locks up, and the car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside, does my company initiate a recall?

      You take the population of vehicles in the field (A) and multiply it by the probable rate of failure (B), then multiply the result by the average cost of an out-of-court settlement (C).

      A times B times C equals X. This is what it will cost if we don't initiate a recall.

      If X is greater than the cost of a recall, we recall the cars and no one gets hurt.

      If X is less than the cost of a recall, then we don't recall.

    3. Re:Sounds like Good Business to Me by Colol · · Score: 4, Informative

      And they're taking what must be a pretty big loss just for the sake of having good business integrity.

      According to the article over at MacCentral, nope. Apple doesn't expect the cost of performing the recall "to be material to Apple", and LG will be the one ponying up the costs.

      Which, given this is the second time in a year LG has caused Apple to issue a recall on batteries, they ought to be doing.

  11. How do they do it? by jargoone · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's incredible! I got my new battery from the recall, and my Powerbook is faster than ever before! Whether it's software or hardware, Apple just keeps getting better!

  12. Re:It always sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    I was designing the logo for our new t-shirt campaign "Fascist Canary Enslavers And How They Must Be Stopped" at the local Starbucks when my battery burned my balls off. Now it was a rush job, because the local print shop was closing because the owner was going on a two week sabbatical to become one with the flowers, so I ignored the flames leaping up from my Powerbook. Clearly, despite the intense heat, the need to finish the logo was my prime interest.

    At any rate, my girlfriend, M (her real name is Olivia, but she feels that being part of the human community means identity must be simplified) said "Geez, Renfrew, don't you think you should at least pour some espresso on that?" I couldn't reply, as my penis was being seared and my mouse was starting to get sticky. I tried to think "What would Steve Jobs do in a situation like this?" but all I could think of was that he would probably order a muffin with a low-fat margarine substitute.

  13. unsafe batteries? by brontus3927 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    A couple weeks ago, Dell issued a recall on some of their Inspirions because of a similar problem. My sister's isn't one of them, but I noticed that the battery gets warmer than the processor does. And the powerbrick gets too hot to touch if the things been running for a few hours.

    I haven't a clue what the solution to this is, but with the explosion of notebook sales, I think we're going to be seeing A LOT of these kinds of problems

  14. Or fear of liability by Thu25245 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    On the flip side, if they didn't decide on a recall, and someone were to get injured, they'd face a serious liability suit. "You already had six reports of failure, and yet your company did nothing. Your negligence is directly responsible for my disfiguring burns." Not a pretty idea.

    Good business practices and fear of lawsuits often yield the same results. Which motivation you choose to ascribe depends mostly on how cynical you are.

  15. Now I wish I'd abused mine! by Ben+Jackson · · Score: 5, Informative

    Mine is about 5 months old, but I've been babying the battery. Wish I'd known I'd be getting a freebie! To find out how many cycles your battery already has:

    ioreg -l -w 0 | grep Capacity

    I only used 22 cycles. :(

    1. Re:Now I wish I'd abused mine! by busman · · Score: 5, Informative

      or for the terminal impaired ..

      System Profiler -> Hardware -> Power

      Battery Information:

      Battery Installed: Yes
      First low level warning: No
      Full Charge Capacity (mAh): 4438
      Remaining Capacity (mAh): 1262
      Amperage (mA): -1726
      Voltage (mV): 10921
      Cycle Count: 22

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  16. Hello Slashdot by falcon5768 · · Score: 4, Funny
    could you PLEASE stop hitting the server so I can actually set up the replacement for my battery

    Thank you

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  17. Ok, the website has some problems! by AnObfuscator · · Score: 4, Informative

    It seems there are some current problems with the website, just be forewarned!

    Here's my story:
    So, my battery for my PB 12" is in the range as testified on Apple's site. I tried to use the site to have my affected battery registered, but the site kept returning an error that my serial number wasn't recognized. Huh?

    So, I call Apple, and the guy says, "your model number is the Powerbook battery #, but the battery's serial number is an iBook battery serial number, so the system is rejecting the battery # as inconsistent with the computer's #." Huh?

    So, the guy went off to figure out what to do and put me on hold. For some reason, the hold music turned off, and this voice comes on every 30 seconds to say, "Please wait. Please wait. Please wait. Please wait."

    It is very very very obnoxious.

    So, they finally try to set up a manual request over the phone, but I have to give them a credit card number (They want to put a hold on it, I guess to keep you from getting a free battery), which is SOP but still annoying, because I don't have a credit card. So I have to call back later with a credit card (grrr) or wait for the website to be fixed (double grrr grrr).

    for whatever reason, they *don't* requre the credit card info via the website.

    hopefully my experience can be of assistance to one of you out there.

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  18. Mine is fine by lbmouse · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm using it right now and haven't had a singl

    +++ATH
    NO CARRIER

  19. Warning: Don't put water on burning lithium by Johnboi+Waltune · · Score: 5, Informative
    I have one of these recalled Powerbook batteries, and right now it's running at home unsupervised. Great.

    I haven't seen anyone else mention it in this thread, but pouring water on burning lithium is an extremely Bad Idea. You'll get an effect similar to pouring gasoline on burning wood.

    Most Slashdotters probably know not to pour water on an electrical fire, but I suspect far fewer know burning lithium can use water for a fuel source.

    From a FAQ I found about how to handle a lithium fire (this is a google html version since the original was a .Doc file): "Use a graphite powder or a Lith-X (class D) extinguisher to extinguish burning lithium. Don't use water, sand, carbon tetrachloride, carbon dioxide, or soda acid extinguishers in lithium cell fires."

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  20. Re:affected by dwlovell · · Score: 5, Funny

    Obvious, not Informative

  21. Re:When I worked for an Apple Laptop repair compan by Daedala · · Score: 4, Funny

    WE always had problems with the batteries and logic boards going out like crazy. Would anyone care to wager a guess why?

    Because you were working in a repair company, so people didn't bring you the ones that worked?

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  22. Re:Many laptops shouldn't! by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "However many laptop power supplies are designed with the assumption that there will be this big battery installed acting as a capacitor."

    No, they don't. Li-Ion batteries are destroyed if they are mischarged, and placing the battery in parallel with the power supply would be extremely dangerous. The battery would likely burn and/or explode the first time that it was connected due to overcharging.

    Modern laptops have extensive power circuitry to preciscely control the charging cycle of the battery. The battery is never used as "a capacitor". That's what the real capacitors are for.

  23. Re:Sony battery warrenty by prichardson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But to take advantage of something like that would be dishonest unless Sony wanted to replace everyone's 60min battery. Has it occurred to you that if people didn't try and exploit loopholes that policy filling them wouldn't exist and therefor wouldn't get in the way of legitimate problems.

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