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Installing Fedora Core 4 on the Mac mini

Tammy Fox writes "The Mac mini is all the rave. Discover how to install the soon-to-be-released Fedora Core 4 on this tiny desktop appliance, including new features in Fedora Core 4 to support the new hardware."

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  1. The article leaves out one detail... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...Linux on Mac mini (or any Mac) won't support any built-in wireless hardware. I don't have any wireless hardware on my mini, but I can see that being important.

    If a person wants a GUI-less Mac, it is possible to run OS X without the GUI as a text-only BSD variant. I forgot where I found the doc, I think you comment out one command in a script. I think that doc might be at the osxfaq site.

    1. Re:The article leaves out one detail... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      You can enter the login name >console at the login prompt, and it'll dump you to a text-only login

      yes, that's

      >console

      with the > and all

    2. Re:The article leaves out one detail... by Chucker23N · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Options for Bluetooth® and Airport® Extreme exist, however the latter will not work on Linux."

      "the Mac mini supports three options: wired Ethernet, wireless Airport Extreme, and Bluetooth. Wired Ethernet gets automatically configured, either via DHCP or static IP, via the system-config-network tool. Airport Extreme, however, sports the Broadcom chipset, where open source drivers are non-existent at present (and there's no reason the believe that they will ever exist)."

      How does the article leave this detail out?

    3. Re:The article leaves out one detail... by Rxke · · Score: 4, Informative

      FYI I run Ubuntu on a Clamshell iBook and it recognized and configured the airportcard automatically during install.

      So your double use of 'any Mac,''any built-in wireless hardware,' is a bit errr... FUDdy ;) if you are happy running obsolete hardware, that is.

      OTOH, Airport Extreme does indeed not work, so be warned.

    4. Re:The article leaves out one detail... by Rxke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hey, this is SlashDot, one should apologize for *having* read TFA, not the other way round!

    5. Re:The article leaves out one detail... by shadowbearer · · Score: 2


      Broadcom sucks.

      SB

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  2. Goodie! by sgant · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can write over OSX, the put on Fedora and then start the endless road into making Gnome behave and look like OSX...which I just wrote over!

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    1. Re:Goodie! by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Funny

      1998 called. They want their troll back.

  3. Re:Why? by sgant · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The advantage of the Mini is that it's the cheapest computer you can run OSX on...but this is a moot point if you're just going to write over it and install Linux.

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  4. FYI by flood6 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here's a related story from the 11th on an IBM article with instructions on installing Yellow Dog on an mini.

  5. Re:Why? by adam1101 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They're reasonably powerful systems with very low power consumption: the entire system (minus display) usually stays under 20W. Even the Pentium-M consumes much more on the desktop (granted, they're also much faster). The most comparable competition in terms of power consumption are Via Mini-ITX systems, which tend to be much slower.

  6. Re:Why? by Chucker23N · · Score: 4, Informative

    The form factor itself is a major selling point. The thing is *tiny*.

    Second, it is very low on power usage, similarly to G4 laptops (as it shares much of the architecture).

    Thirdly -- obviously this goes away when you (only) put Linux on it -- it's the cheapest available machine that runs OS X.

    Generally, you'll have a hard time finding a competitive machine at this price with similar dimensions.

  7. Re:Why? by kalidasa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Apple hardware isn't as much of a moving target as PC hardware is, so there are fewer hardware compatibility issues to deal with. Also, not too many pieces of PC hardware at that price point have Firewire 400 and DVI.

  8. But...why? by onebuttonmouse · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This seems like a semi-on-topic question. Why would I want to install Red Hat on my Mac? This isn't meant to be a troll, I like Linux, I use Debian Sarge and Ubuntu Hoary on retired x86 boxes at work. I just would love to know if anyone is running Linux on their Mac - what are you using it for? Why can't I use OS X to do it?

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    1. Re:But...why? by JMZorko · · Score: 5, Informative

      ... because, as cool as OSX is (I actually really like it, and I have a 12" PB 1.5ghz running it, as well as a dual 1.25ghz PM G4 MDD), some things need Linux:

      1. AIO (I don't know about Tiger, but Panther only does AIO on file-based FDs, not FDs based on pipes or sockets -- if you don't believe me, check out the XNU kernel source and see for yourself by grepping for ESPIPE) -- some apps need this ability.

      2. The Linux toolchain is the same on PPC and x86. ld is ld is ld, gcc is gcc is gcc, elf is elf. Plus, Linux works on embedded devices (which is one nice thing about the Mac mini -- it's a cheap PPC embedded development platform) while OSX does not yet.

      Regards,

      John

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  9. Re:Why? by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Funny
    What is PPC hardware like? Does it perform better under load or something?

    Everything is much snappier on PPC.

  10. Re:Why? by hunterx11 · · Score: 2, Funny

    It must be because it uses RISC instead of CISC.

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  11. No OS X, think non-desktop applications by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why forsake Mac OS X on a Mac, well think about non-desktop applications. For example the Navy using Yellow Dog Linux and Mac hardware for a Sonar application: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7789.

    For a somewhat detailed list of who is using Yellow Dog Linux see the links on http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/realworld/showca se/

  12. I'd consider Mac mini for OpenBSD firewall by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... on newer hardware, especially since you can't get airport extreme to work, there's little(not no, just little) reason to run linux over os x

    "Little" may not be as small as some readers are thinking. Again, think non-desktop applications. For example the mini is small, quiet, and could make a good OpenBSD firewall. Do you recall all the various articles around here where people were spending lots of money to build quiet PCs for firewalls, lightweight home servers, etc? I think the base mini would be an attractive alternative. If my current firewall dies I'd consider the base mini over my an old celeron or 604e. Similar story with my home file server. It only receives lightweight use, transferring the odd file, backing up files, etc. The mini's slow hard drive wouldn't bother me. I'm currently using a mini with 10.4 for email, web, and lightweight development. I expect it will someday become my home firewall or server.

    1. Re:I'd consider Mac mini for OpenBSD firewall by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ... but don't you need two NIC's? where's the other one going, unless hopefully one day the airport extreme drivers become available ...

      No airport, I don't bother with wireless on desktops that already live in a heavily wired room. I would connect to the cable modem with USB 2.0 and use the ethernet for the switch. This is all theoretical, my mini is still being used as a desktop.

  13. Putting linux on a Mac mini, eh? by earthbound+kid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hmm, sounds like an interesting story... Or at least it was, the first two times Slashdot wrote it up.

    For real, this story isn't even a dupe-- it's a TRUPE!!!

    Oh boy, I get to read all the posters who say, "But why install linux on a Mac?" again. It sure was interesting the first two times, so this time, I know it'll be awesome for sure.

    Seriously, I can understand some dupes popping up, when two editors post links to the same story that seems interesting, but this isn't even interesting. A Mac Mini is just a normal Mac. It's no surprise that you can put Linux on it. You can put Linux on any Mac. Hell, you can put Linux on an iPod. As for those who are obsessed with asking "why," why should we install Linux on anything? Because we can! That's good enough, isn't it? This story isn't News, it's only barely for Nerds, and it definitely doesn't Matter, when you consider that anyone who wants to put Linux on their Mac Mini already did so back when they were released.

  14. Re:Why? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Informative
    I have a Mac Mini in a co-lo centre. The hardware is more than adequate for my needs, and the small form factor means that the hosting fees are small. I picked OpenBSD as the OS to run on it for a number of reasons which will be covered in the second article in this series, due for publication next Friday.

    Before anyone points out the laptop hard drive, I have 512MB of RAM in the machine, and most of that is used as disk cache - the disk itself spends a lot of its time spun down.

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  15. Re:Why? by Monx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    RISC is good