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Television on your Phone

zxnos writes "Television on mobile is all geared up to be the next big thing as UK provider Orange, rolls out a mobile handset service, which will offer customers top TV shows and channels. Channels such as Cartoon Network and CNN will be made available for a monthly subscription of £10. This will be UK's first TV-on-the-mobile service, which will allow customers to watch news, sport and entertainment programmes on their phone."

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  1. And You Thought... by SpottedKuh · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...that people using their phones while driving was a problem before?

    1. Re:And You Thought... by ceeam · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh, don't worry - they'll use Bluetooth TV goggles while driving so they don't need to hold TV-phone in their hands.

  2. screen by cowplex · · Score: 4, Interesting

    oooh, tv on a inch square screen! leave the TV to the TVs. an RSS feed would be much better.

  3. broadcast by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Instead of yet another service to be charged for, what about receiving broadcast TV?

    1. Re:broadcast by Monkelectric · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Instead of yet another service to be charged for, what about receiving broadcast TV?

      DING DING DING! Yes you got it. I can't describe how little I give a shit about watching tv on my cell phone, just like I didnt give a shit about taking pictures with my phone, using my phone as an organizer, or any of the other fucktarded things they've tried to get me to buy. I will admit text messaging is marginally useful, however, sprint (whose the devil) charges *$10 month* for unlimited text messaging ... HOLY SHIT!

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    2. Re:broadcast by amembleton · · Score: 3, Informative

      Read this article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4563007.stm

      It states that o2 will be providing TV on mobiles by using digital TV signals although these will be special ones designed for mobiles, so they will probably still get to charge you.

  4. Concerns by Crimson+Dragon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I see all these new mobile technologies develop. Mobile web access, 3G networks, multimedia content, picture mail.... these are all well and good.

    What I question is why there isn't more urgency on working on the increasingly insufficient battery life of the modern mobile device. This is not restricted to cell phones, either, but is particularly relevant in this case. The more features we jam-pack into these phones, the more and more our talk time (which is why we call these devices cellular telephones and not something else: they should make phone calls) tanks. Granted, much technological innovation and research is being done globally with hydrogen fuel cells, increasing efficiency of solar technologies, etc.... but the effort spent adding another gimmick (or feature, whichever is less offensive to you) is wasted when this mobile power problem for these devices seems ever the more relevant....

    Though the possibility of watching Scrubs at work to make my bosses that much madder at me seems enticing....

    Seriously, we should dedicate more energy to the mobile power problem.

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    1. Re:Concerns by taskforce · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Ask a LOLLERSKATES!!11 teenage girl if she wants a custom ringtone composer on a par with Sony ACID or a few more hours on her phone's battery and it's quite obvious which one she would pick.

      Free market forces are dictated by those who spend the most money on the service.

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    2. Re:Concerns by markholmberg · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I studied related stuff for my thesis and found out an interesting bit of info.

      One of the main reasons for big third generation mobile services markets in Japan and Korea are the lengthy daily commutes people do in trains.

      And normally, in trains, you can charge your phone (there is AC or DC available). Thus, power consumption is not a problem when you take into account the environment where these 3G services are used.

      Same thing for me here in Finland. I use my phone to surf the net during my 3 hours of daily commuting on a train. I decided pretty quickly against carrying a 6 pound computer with me the whole day just to be able to surf the net. Now I use just my Nokia 6600 to read PDA version of slashdot. Some of my commuting friends use a Nokia 9300 for the same purpose and yes, they use it to watch TV shows too.

  5. In related news by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am setting up a new chain of Opticians to cater for all the people who damage their eyesight while trying to watch tv on their mobile.

    I also expect to be recruiting medical staff shortly to cater for all the people who get injured becase they were watching their mobile when they should really have been watching where they were going.

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  6. Here is what I want in a phone: by nasor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    -a good strong signal that won't drop calls
    -a long battery life
    -the ability to survive repeatedly being dropped onto a hard surface from a height of about 5 feet
    -waterproofing might be nice

    Maybe once I can get all that, I'll be interested in a phone that can deliver TV shows, play Beethoven ring tones, take grainy pictures, and allow me to play simply video games. Honestly, what do these companies think that people buy phones for?

    1. Re:Here is what I want in a phone: by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Here is what I want in a phone:

      You do realise that you are no longer the profitable market for mobile phones? Here in the UK, the primary market for mobile phones is now 15 - 29 year olds, and that just happens to include the age range of people who like gadgets, so to gain more consumer market, your phone has to have an MP3 player, a megapixel camera, video capability, sms, instant messaging, wap, 3G, polyphonic ringtones, colour screen etc.

      Honestly, what do these companies think that people buy phones for?

      Cameras, MP3 players, etc etc. Really, in the largest growing market area its all about gadgets that come with the phones. Your phone doesnt take pictures? Thats poor. Your phone doesnt have polyphonic ringtones? Bad. Your phone cant receive picture messages? Not good. What does your phone do? Oh, its built like a rubber brick to survive your clumsiness?!

  7. Wireless bandwidth limits? Why TV style? by RyanFenton · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Certainly not a bad service - only problem would be having some odd person on the subway ask to watch with you. All this video-over-widerange-wireless stuff makes me wonder though - what are the long-term limits of wireless data transfer over large areas? I anticipate (article was more early marketing than real info)that users of this service will not be getting a high-resolution image on their cell phone, and what they get will likely jam with any signal interference, but it won't be too long until competition pushes for higher resolution, more video buffer, etc.

    Can we expect ultra-high-resolution TV-style instant video eventually for everyone over a cellphone-style wireless network, or will it become more of a video-on-demand system where you chose ahead what you want to watch, then are notified when your show is available to watch? I wonder what the bandwidth will end up making plausible and simpler to provide.

    Which makes me think - once people get to commonly learn video-on-demand or TIVO-style interfaces, which will be more popular? If providers can get past the nickel-and-dime mentality of providing shows on demand (see NetFlix for why losing this mentality helps), then I believe that style would be much more popular for people using cellphones who'd want to watch specific shows rather than the usual TV-zombie experience. So long as they can eventually have shows in storage rather than streaming them, it should be easier on the network too.

    Ryan Fenton

  8. No more peace by sean@thingsihate.org · · Score: 4, Funny

    Great now I have to listen to laugh tracks and sports announcers coming from other people's phones when I ride the train or bus.

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  9. People are getting more money than me for this. by Simonetta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have a hard time accepting that people are actually getting paid more than I am to conceive and implement ideas such as this. Paying serious money ($20/month) for the opportunity to watch a limited number of television shows on a 3-cm square handheld screen.

    Every technological innovation goes through several stages:

    1) First there is the long hard expensive period of research and development of the basic underlying engineering.

    2) Then comes the conceptualizing of a possible product and/or application.

    3) Then comes the stage when large amounts of resources are put into making a truly stupid product.

    4) Then, the nadir. The point of absolute and total despair where the developers realize that they have spent all this time and effort into making something that is truly stupid, unbelievably expensive, and does nothing more than duplicate the function of a simple, common widely-used device that costs a tiny fraction of the new product.

    5) Finally, the phoenix. The price of the new technology falls to the point where its secondary benefits make it worth as much and more than the simple common ordinary device that it is replacing. It then becomes the new simple, common ordinary way of doing a task.

    This is seen over and over. The word processor replacing the typewriter. Steven Levy in Hackers writes of the despair of the guy who invented the word processor when he realized that he was using a $20000 minicomputer to duplicate the function of a $20 typewriter. Word processors started to make sense when minicomputers started to cost $2. The CD replacing the vinyl phonograph, the energy saver light bulb, the music synthesizer, the television infra-red remote, the list goes on and on. It's a process.

    These guys are at the point where they have invested a ton of money to make a truly stupid product but haven't realized it yet. Let's all hope that they survive the coming crash. Yes, guys, you actually did spend millions on the idea that people would give you money to watch a inch-square TV in a television picture on their cell phone. But, cheer up! It's not the end of the world and eventually something really wonderful will come directly from it.

    Someday.

  10. Hidden fees by Aggrav8d · · Score: 4, Insightful

    $10 UK to access the channels.
    $0.5 UK/minute to watch the show.
    If they didn't do it then it would be tantamount to saying that a full month of constant connection to someone else costs them *at most* $10 UK which would make the rest of their pricing policies seem all the more outrageous in comparison. You can't be to obvious about how you grift people - if you want to squeeze blood from a stone you gotta squeeze *slowly*.

  11. Re:Once again... by cnettel · · Score: 4, Informative
    On my SonyEricsson Z1010 with camera, video calls, media player, J2ME goodness, I still just press "down" to navigate my phone book. If I press a number key after doing so, I scroll to that letter. With the left menu button, I have direct access to my call list, both outwards and inwards. I can easily place another call to the same number.

    Point being? Lots of features don't have to make the obvious and common ones hard to access. Thanks to a larger, color, display, it's also easier to find what I want in the menus, when I need to access those, as I can view all available options at the top level, compared to previous Nokia phones, where I could only see one at a time and scroll between them.

    I can call with my phone, from the phone book, easily. No configuration or menu madness. I can create simply key shortcuts to those of the more complex features I actually use. And then, I have a userfriendly menu for other stuff, when I need that. If cramming in more features has made your phone hard to use, that's because of bad implementation, not because of the features.