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George Dantzig, 1914-2005

Markus Registrada writes "George Dantzig, the inventor of the Simplex method for solving Linear Programming problems, died on May 13. He was also the now-legendary student who turned in solutions for what he had taken to be a homework assignment, only to find out they had been posted as examples of what were suspected to be unsolvable problems."

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  1. I hope Paul Erdos is right. by FlyByPC · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If so, George has certainly earned a look at The Book. (The one containing all possible mathematical theorems...)

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  2. Re:Karma-whoring clarifier X2 by Mr.Zong · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Quadratic Programming is used in solving portfolio optimisation problems, a mathematical way to ensure a portfolio of risky assets are diversified.

    Well, to backtrack a bit, we can use linear programming for making predictions "pragmatically". Think the lame old spreadsheet neural net :P

    I mean, saying that linear programming has little to do with computing kind of slaps the best program ever made in its face.

    The Spread Sheet (I default to Excel, but insert you fav modern flavor)

    Excel is probably the most powerful, robust, versatile, used for everything and the kitchen sink, program ever created. It's a freaking Swiss army knife, and it's because of Linear Programming.

    We may not directly use it (ever), but Linear Programming has shaped modern computing as we know it.

  3. At least he was lucky. by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What happend to me was the opposite.

    A few years ago my math teacher gave us an exam with one particular problem that I couldn't solve. (Apparently a typo or misplaced sign made a rather simple problem into an unsolvable one).
    So I went to the library, researched on the problem, and found out it was unsolvable. I PROVED IT mathematically, but the teacher didn't believe me.
    And my grade wasn't changed! Doesn't that suck!?

    Lesson to be learned: Life's not fair. SPECIALLY with underpaid teachers designing the exams. Hmph.

  4. A new way of teaching? by John+Seminal · · Score: 5, Interesting
    He was also the now-legendary student who turned in solutions for what he had taken to be a homework assignment, only to find out they had been posted as examples of what were suspected to be unsolvable problems

    I can't help but think if he ever would have solved those problems had he been taught first that they were unsolvable??

    Schizo Person #1- "Look, there is an elephant in the room"
    Schizo Person #2- "Shhh!!! There is no elephant"
    Schizo Person #1- "But..."
    Schizo Person #2- "No buts, you don't want them to think you're crazy"

    Soon Schizo Person #1 stopps seeing the elephant. It really does not exists to him

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    1. Re:A new way of teaching? by Lingur · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That's an excellent question. I have always been a bit frustrated in my math classes because they never teach you to think outside the box.

      It's always "Do this if that comes out but do that if this comes out".
      They never, ever, want you to do anything on your own, it's always:

      Teacher: Do this
      Me: But what if we...
      Teacher: Just do it like this, you don't know what your talking about!

      Who knows... maybe my school just sucks.

    2. Re:A new way of teaching? by jd · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Actually, no, yours is not the only school. I ran up against that kind of mindset many times in England and eventually learned to "dumb down" my thinking for the benefit of the school/University.


      I can remember all kinds of arguments and debates I did have, before then, over such things as NP-Complete problems (as related to network topologies), and the like. Although I did not prove NP-Complete (if I had, you'd be reading ABOUT be, not from me), I believe that this is a solvable problem and that I gained at least some insight into the perceptions that underly why it is such a difficult challenge.


      The difference between me and George Dantzig? About the same as between be and Neanderthal Man. Neanderthals had the capacity to do a great deal of creative thought, lateral thinking, etc. They didn't, not because they couldn't, but because they never took the steps it would have required.


      Likewise, I may very well have the mental capacity to solve all sorts of complex, abstract problems. I've an IQ of 148, my range of knowledge in science and technology is extensive, but I've never really put that intelligence to the kind of use that it is theoretically capable of.


      George Dantzig did. THAT, and nothing else, is what makes him the genius and me the Slashdot reader. Which is all credit to him. It is very tough to overcome real or imagined social conditioning that says that we should all be dumb and unthinking, and whilst I don't easily give into that, the difference is that George Dantzig clearly did not give in at all, but rather ignored it completely.


      Unsolvable? Hah, mere homework.


      Y'know, it wouldn't surprise me if schools expected students to have that kind of attitude, rather than one of "if the examiner is in a bad mood, we'll fail anyway, so we might as well not put in any more effort than we need to, to scrape by", that schools would produce such minds as a matter of course.


      "Genius" is not really that rare of a thing for biological reasons. It is rare because we tell the next generation that it is rare. The only two groups who really succeed in life are those who are damn certain they're geniuses and work damn hard to prove it, or who drop out enough not to be affected by such banality.


      All it should really take, to produce an entire nation of Einsteins and Dantzigs is to encourage even the briefest glimmer or the slightest spark of thought.


      To me, the greatest honor we can give the greatest minds of all time is to allow all the other great minds to be as great as they want to be, rather than trampling them down into the mud as though creative thought were somehow dirty and disgusting, if it isn't in a different century and preferably a different country as well.

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    3. Re:A new way of teaching? by GreatBunzinni · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Likewise, I may very well have the mental capacity to solve all sorts of complex, abstract problems. I've an IQ of 148, my range of knowledge in science and technology is extensive, but I've never really put that intelligence to the kind of use that it is theoretically capable of.

      Don't forget that IQ is meaningless. First of all, it is a quotient between two numbers that are supposed to measure inteligence (how do you measure something which isn't even defined?). Second, the IQ test was designed with children in mind (the IQ compares the subject's test score with the supposed normal score for the kid's age), to be able to filter the supposedly more advanced kids. And third, it is shown again and again that the test is absolutely meaningless. It is even not supposed to be applied to people over 18. The only practical use that is given to IQ tests is from those that are tested and have a high score. They use it again and again to try to elevate oneself above the others and to try to justify the unjustifiable: a supposedly higher inteligence.

      P.S.: Boy, you are just full of yourself, aren't you?

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    4. Re:A new way of teaching? by Skye16 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't know if it's just your school, but I know the Calc I and II prof I had at the University of Pittsburgh at Johnstown was way different. He didn't want to just tell you a method and have you figure it out. First he went through why it was necessary to come up with a method for solving a certain type of problem, and then he worked with us to come up with our own way through it. Sometimes it took 2 or 3 classes before we finally figured out how to actually do it (eventually he would give us hints to guide us, but he mostly wanted to see what we were going to come up with on our own). Having had Calc before I went to college, I knew most of the methods, but I didn't know how those methods were discovered in the first place. This made my calc class somewhat difficult (in that I had to show up), but I also learned an awful lot as well.

      It's been about 5 years and everything is hazy, but I remember on our final project in calc 1, we had to do a series of somewhat-related problems that lead us to answering the final question, write a paper on it, and show some nice diagrams. I was skimming through the final problem and I realized there was a different - and much easier way to solve it. I did it and showed him and he told me to include it in with the paper, but to do the others as well. The two "math guys" (myself and another) finished our part, and the "paper people" wrote up the paper (which was a bad idea). The math was right, but the paper was messed up. However, by turning in the new method of solving the problem, we got enough bonus points to give us a perfect grade on the final project.

      I had him later for a Math History class as well (not just memorizing mathematicians and dates, but also how they determined their methods and why) and we had various problems to solve. There were a few times where I (and others) would do it in a different way to what he had expected us to do it, but that just made him even happier when it happened. He never shut us down on new method we used, even if he was pretty adamant on us at least learning how it was usually done. I still think he was one of the best professors I ever had.

      Other than him, though, that whole college sucked. There were a good 4 professors that I had that I thought did an amazing job of teaching. The others were just a big waste of time. I was better off teaching myself from the book and saving myself all the time I would have wasted sitting through their pointless classes.

    5. Re:A new way of teaching? by jallen02 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      One of the greatest faults anyone can possess is an inflated view of ones self. It is REALLY common. If you read about many people who have performed amazing works you will find they don't think to much of it. They are just doing their best. There are some people who are smart and they both know and act like it.

      I think the best strength/flaw in human existence is TRULY knowing where you stand as a strength and thinking more highly of yourself than you actually are as a flaw. Its quite insidious because in America you MUST make yourself truly valuable and sell yourself as valuable after developing marketable skills. So you get used to promoting yourself. Unfortunately most people don't understand where to stop with the self promotion and they develop a much higher view of themselves than they should. It is really hard to keep yourself grounded, but if you pay attention life regularly serves up humility :)

      Jeremy

  5. Re:LP's by log2.0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    hehe, I was thinking about applying the LP solving technique to these types of games but they made it difficult...For example, in warcraft 3, there are different types of armour and "attacks". So you have to choose which type of armoured and attack units to make. I am very certain that Blizzard looked at the linear space and made sure that the constraints in the system all had the same n-dimensional slope.

    A few years ago, I looked into it for night elves and that was the case for a few units.

    Either way, if the game did have some inbalance, you *could* find it if you could be bothered :)

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  6. I really suffered LP by ArgieNomad · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well folks, I'm an accountant. You can have all the fun you want about having an accountant here, but that's the way it is. In Argentina, where I come from, that was the best way to land a management position in no time, which I'm still waiting for.

    All that aside, I love technology in all its forms, just in case.

    Studying my 4th year, we've been teached LP, as a way to solve transport route problems, and minimum stock estimates, optimizing resources and stuff, in an assignment called "Operations Research".

    I hope one of my fellow students will read this, but I really doubt an graduate from Facultad de Ciencias Economicas - Universidad Nacional de Cordoba would read /.

    We always dreamed about finding the damn mf that invented the simplex method, but the net was far from being an accesible thing those days, so now that I find out about Dantzig, I'm kinda sad. There was a time when I would have cursed his family and chased him if he was within reach, but now I pay him honors, as one of many bright minds that go by unnoticed for students and developing minds all over the world.

    My respect

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  7. Travelling Salesman Problem by raga · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Dantzig (with Fulkerson and Johnson) was also the first to publish a TSP algorithm that optimized a 49-city tour. Of course these days, 13k-city solutions are considered par for the course, but back in the 1950's a 49-city tour was a very big deal.

    Another thing I'll remember him for is his interesting exercise in urban design Compact City

    cheers-raga

  8. Re:I've been enlightened! by pcgabe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Pardon my nerdiness, but...

    >Meaning of life=42, Question=???

    In the fourth book, they devise a method of approximating what the Question was. What they come up with was "What do you get when you multiply six by nine".

    Now, while 6 * 9 = 42 (in base 13), they make a point of mentioning how this method will only approximate the true Question.

    The true Question is, of course, "What do you get when you multiply six by seven" and is mentioned by Arthur several books earlier. He immediately dismisses it as too obvious, overlooking the fact that he is from Earth, the planet/computer designed to come up with the Question. Earthlings' brains work different from other sentient beings, which is also why they can name a place "Belgium" without blushing, and why they are not so adversely affected by Vogon poetry.

    Some could even argue that Earthlings can know both the Question and the Answer simultaneously without going insane, but those people are idiots who haven't been paying attention.

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  9. the story by Statman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I remember taking my required Probablistic Models in Operations Research course back in 2003. I wasnt doing too well in the class and miserably failed my first test. The second half the semester was spent on the simplex method. I remember the class before the test our professor, rather than reviewing decided to mention the names of some prominent Mathematicians. George Dantzing was one of them. How I despised him at the time for nearly ruining my academic life! I would always screw up some thing while trying to do the simplex method. The pivot tables etc. Just too much to keep track of in my head I suppose. I studied my ass off to learn the simplex method. One hour before the exam, I had figured it out. I was so happy that I went searching for a program for my ti89 calculator to check my answers. Low and behold victory was mine!! I will never forget that day cause I strugged so much to learn the simplex. Only later did I realize the significance of what this man had done. RIP

  10. Not really... by Kjella · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...if you had a unique goal function and linear equations perhaps. First of all, you are playing against an opponent, so the optimal strategy will depend on his strategy. If they have done this well, there should be a "scissors-paper-rock" balance with no dominant strategy. Secondly, the strength of a battle group is not linear (that is why you have a certain mix of heavy fortifications, long-range artillery, light troopers etc etc). It's not like you can describe it as A*x1+B*x2+C*x3.... = strength, because any one troop type alone would probably be wiped out quickly (unless you have a dominant type, which would make the game rather silly).

    Kjella

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  11. ntpdate by Piranhaa · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Does anybody see anything wrong with this picture? Died on May 13th... Today's date: May 23rd
    To me it seems as though there was a 10 day delay. Did it take that long to realize who this guy was?

  12. From the FWIW department... by Spock+the+Baptist · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What I find interesting is that his father Tobias Dantzig. Ol' Tobias was a Russian mathematician, was a student of Henri Poincaré at the Sorbonne and the author of NUMBER: The Language of Science.

    As a physics major, and grad student I bumped into a couple of three fellow students in physics that were down right scary. In all three instances they came from academic families and had *very* strong backgrounds in the subject.

    One of these guys had a dad who was a professor of physics, and a mother who was a professor of mathematics. This dude graduated college Summa Cum Laude (he had a 4.0) in three years with a double major in physics and math. He was a really nice guy, quite athletic, and ---drum roll please-- dated regularly.

    One seriously scary dude...

    One day I said something to one of my physics profs about the dude and my prof told me about his background. My prof who was 'grand old man' of the department point out that having a background such as this fellow had put him at *great* advantage with respect to other students.

    My prof was not putting the fellow down. He's point was the the fellow was without question quite gifted, but those gifts would not have been realized without his background.

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  13. Re:So sad. by hey! · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Reminds me of a story a friend of mine who attended MIT with me in the late 70s early 80s once told me. My friend's grandparents were Eastern European Jews, who emigrated to the UK in the 30s, and in the 60s to the US, finally settling in Florida.

    One day he called his grandmother to see how she was getting on. She mentioned that she couldn't talk long because she was having Mr. Dirac over for tea.

    "Oh," he says without thinking, "like Dirac Delta function."

    "Yes," said his grandmother, "Paul's wife Margit is visiting, would you like to talk to her?"

    "NOOOO!!!"

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  14. Same here. by renehollan · · Score: 3, Interesting
    While an undergrad, and later in grad school, I knew this short (I am short at 5'7", but he was shorter, about 5'2"), Vietnamese fellow, who spoke in halting English. He was scary brilliant.

    I remember his Masters' Thesis defense well. At one point he made an assertion and proceeded to use it as the basis for a greater proof. He was interrupted by one of his examiners, who noted something to the effect that he hadn't mentioned that his proof was conditional on the "blah" conjecture having been proved.

    He stopped, looked somewhat confused, and then a look of understanding and pride swept across his face. In his halting English he responded, "No. Wait. I prove. Last week. I have preprint of paper. Want see?" (Yes, he did, and it turned out to be correct).

    As I recall, there were two more such incidents during his defense, which lasted about two hours.

    Needless to say, his thesis was accepted as submitted (which is rare: most Masters' thesis are accept "with minor modification" (as in, someone found a typo, or an uncited reference)). What's ironic is that he'd effectively had enough material for three PhDs in that Masters thesis.

    He went on to a doctorate, and possibly a post-doc in Mathematics.

    What's really scary is that he claimed to have an older brother who was much smarter than he was.

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