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Plugin For Winamp Allows Downloading From iPod
slicenglide writes "A newly released plugin for Winamp allows you to copy music from your iPod to your computer. Wired has picked up the story and includes a link to the WinAmp plugin page where you can grab yourself a copy. "
I think my grandparents use to use that back in the early twentieth century...
I for one never realised that iPods wouldn't let you copy music *off* them. Thank god I never bought one, that would annoy the hell out of me.
iPods store the music totally openly in the directory structure. You can download the music from any file browser that can see the disk - like the command line on OS X for example. It's hardly rocket science.
""Using it with third-gen iPod and Windows ME," wrote Brian Cape in the Winamp forum. "Absolutely superb, no problems at all." "
No problems at all with Windows ME? It's a miricle!
Of course I didn't read the article, so there might be something to it ... but I suspect it's not that hard to get the files via a Linux installation. The only platform I have that I have had trouble pulling the files off of the iPod on is Mac.
I talk about stuff.
fucking nerds
:-(
I wish someone would be.
To copy songs from your iPod on mac os x, open up the terminal and type:
/Volumes/name_of_ipod/iPod Control/music
:)
# Change directory to the ipod music directory. (I'm not sure if iPod Control is the exact name I'm not on a mac at the moment, but it's similar.)
cd
# View the files on the iPod
ls
# Then copy whatever the files called.
cp name_of_file
No plugins, downloads, whatever required
How long will Apple take to *fix* this?
I can copy music from my iRiver to my hdd without th e need for any such plugins, it's just like a removable hdd using the USB Mass Storage Device drivers.
I pity you fools and your shiny white shackles!
The problem with slashdot is that most of its users were bullied and stuffed into lockers as kids!
Maybe this is news for Winamp users - I doubt it, but I don't use it myself. But there has been software to download songs from the iPod to your harddrive for ages. The inability to do so is pretty much limited to iTunes, every other application dealing with the iPod (and there are dozens) enables you to do that. One popular example for Windows is EphPod. Lots and lots more can be found for multiple platforms at iPodlounge.
Personally, I use foo_pod, a plugin for the foobar2000 audio player. It's quite powerful, including such features as automatic conversion of formats the iPod doesn't know (e.g. ogg or shorten) and automatic generation of audiobooks. For what it's worth - Wired seems to care - foobar and foo_pod are yet half as small than Winamp and that plugin is. Hah.
Switch back to Slashdot's D1 system.
But isn't that illegal?
You are going to make jesus cry.
N
"I used to have that really cool,funny sig
This is hardly new nor interesting. There are plenty of programs that work with the iPod other than iTunes. Behold just a few:
- Anapod Explorer
- PodUtils
- GTKpod
- GNUpod
And rhythmbox, for example, offers nice integration of music management and iPod operability -- if that's what is supposed to have made this newsworthy.
Here is a direct link to the homepage for the winamp iPod plugin.
We have many other features than just copy to hard drive, mlipod provides fully fledged iPod management. Go check it out!
Will - Lead dev for mlipod
A friend of mine has been using this plugin for months, and prefers to use it in favor of iTunes. It's hardly new though, the earliest release listed on their Sourceforge filelist is from April 2004.
I've been using this for a while, it works with Ipod Shuffles as well, just drag/drop, haven't tried any of the advanced features though
There is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men. -- Boondock Saints
People want to be able to use their music and their devices as they see fit and they will find a way to make that happen when companies try to cripple their otherwise good products. I bought my iPod thinking that it was probably locked down and the ability to transfer songs and files would be limited but I knew you people out there would fix the problem. It is annoying when locked down proprietary design locks the features down of a device I would otherwise buy and so I will look elsewhere when that happens -I'm looking at you Sony. (take your memory sticks and shove them) The iPod is popular despite it's attempted lockdown and they would do well to not follow the Sony example.
Enjoy your Karma, after all you earned it. Feel your Karma Joe, feel it burn.
OP is referring to the fact that you CAN take music off it, and clearly you've not done your research well in the slightest. Just use a program like ephpod.
There are a ton of programs that already let you do this. Perhaps the coolest in my eyes is a program called SharePod which runs directly from the iPod hard drive, and so requires no installation. It is for Windows only, however, which is the only limitation.
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http://sturm.t35.com/sharepod/
There are also about a dozen alternatives here, on iPodlounge.com
http://www.ipodlounge.com/index.php/ipod-software
Kudos to the WinAmp guys for doing this though, I'll probably check it out to see how they did it.
Well here in Switzerland it is perfectly legal to hand your iPod to a close friend and let him copy your music off it. You can freely copy copyrighted works between family members and close friends.
only for AAC files. of which I have ~10 out of ~1700 songs. And the only reason why i bought those was because I drink pepsi, and got a bunch of free songs.
Now I will keep my eye on Hymn and see if I can strip the drm from them straight.
i thought once I was found, but it was only a dream.
1) any iPod, if initialized using Windows (meaning it's FAT32 formatted), is a standard USB Mass Storage Device that you can plug into any windows box that supports those and start using it as a removable HDD
2) nothing prevents you from downloading your DRM-free songs from your iPod using only Windows Explorer. However, iTunes arranges all music files in 32/64/128/256 (something like that) folders named 00 through FF (in hex). So your Metallica - St.Anger tracks would be scattered in some 10 folders or so... and it's not that easy to compile the whole album by hand. iPod uses its internal database to find files. All this winamp plugin provides is a convenient way to copy files from your iPod back to your hdd by parsing through this database file and renaming files using the template specified.
This also means that you can not simply copy mp3 folder to iPod and play them... you have to update the database. This is why you have to use iTunes (or this winamp plugin or similar util) to upload music to your iPod player.
Yes, it's stupid, compared to the way iRiver players handle files and folders.
3) I've been using this plugin for about a year now, this is hardly news. I recommend NOT to use it to upload files to your iPod, it once corrupted its database and I had to erase it and copy all the music again.
4) there is also a plugin for Total Commander (my shell of choice) that provides similar functionality:
http://www.totalcmd.net/plugring/ipod.html
iTunes by default rips your Cds to non-protected m4u (AAC) or optionally, Mp3. Only tracks bought from the iTMS will be protected by default.
I think this plugin is more intended as a utility to allow people to use their iPods to carry mp3s between PCs without the rigmarole of zipping them into an archive.
I have been a user for about 10 years. This ends Feb 2014. The site's been ruined. I'm off. Dice, FU
Total Commander can see the files on the iPod using this file system plugin. (link to download may be broken, but plugin can be found elsewhere...)
;)
TC is all you really ever need, and can replace explorer quite effectively with loads of added bonuses.
I've also used a neat OS X util called Senuti (iTunes backward) to be able to copy from and to the iPod and do all sorts of other cool things.
(Next to zsh and vi, it's the cheese!)
The thing is though, right, who actually cares?
Of course you can. It's just that some people find the fact that the filenames and subdirectories are structured to be fast and efficient for the player that keeps track info in a seperate database file, rather than easily human readable. Winamp (and indeed anything else) reads the intact header info on the files to get that for you.
There's really a sliding 'geek' scale that goes something like this:
0: doesn't care what they look like on disc, as going looking for the files directory is magic voodoo stuff.
1: annoyed that the filenames are munged up, making it useless for most purposes.
2: not that bothered, since they can work around it with the id3 tags. However, possibly irritated that they should have to anyway.
"I Know You Are But What Am I?"
No, I'm not joking. I occasionally want voice recorder functionality, and just about everyone seems to use some proprietary format or another for their hardware -- while Speex gets compression rates with the best of them, and works on all the platforms I use.
Once upon a time I might have bought a player with Vorbis support -- but my money's gotten tighter since then, so my requirements have gone up. Where's the dedicated hardware with Speex support?
3: not bothered at all; thinks id3 is the right way to do it anyway due to cross platform filename hiccoughs.
There are no trails. There are no trees out here.
You can download from you iPod by doing the following:
1. Set your iPod for use as a hard drive.
2. Make the music directories on the hard drive visible (they are default hidden). You can do this by making visible the folder iPod_Control and clicking on "Apply changes to this folder, subfolders and files".
3. Set iTunes to keep your music organized (a.k.a. copy them to your hard drive).
4. Go to Files>Add Folder to Library and add the music folder on the iPod.
This may take a little time if you have lots of music, but it will only copy the music that you do not already have.
Intel didn't release the Blue Man Group. They escaped on their own using an elaborate, yet pleasant sounding series of PVC-lined tunnels.
The iPod's Music folder is hidden only in the Finder. On a Mac you can still get to it easily enough via the shell or an alternative file browser; go here:
/Volumes/[iPod's name]/iPod_Control/Music/
There are a bunch of folders with names like "F00", "F01", "F02"If you want a nice GUI tool to do this, on Mac there is "iPod Access" and "iPodRip" (both shareware), and there is the free program "gtkpod", which I use on my Linux box at work to listen to my iPod songs.
Apple really doesn't lock you out of your iPod, which is one reason why I love it! Of course, mine's HFS+ formatted; is it hard to do this on Windows?
We apologize for the inconvenience.
I've already mentioned this before, and it looks like I'm going to have to mention it again. It was not Apple's original idea to "prevent" music uploading from MP3 players, but it was the natural result of two factors:
Apple's continued "hiding" of the song files from the rest of the file system is simply legal cover to defend themselves from the RIAA. Do you really think Apple could have gotten the Music Store off the ground if the iPod more openly supported uploading?
Those who complain about affect & effect on