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The Scoop on the Xbox 360's Embedded OS?

An anonymous reader writes "When the Xbox 360 was launched two weeks ago amid much brouhaha over its custom-designed IBM PowerPC-based CPU with 3 symmetrical cores running at 3.2GHz each, WindowsForDevices.com wondered aloud, 'What OS runs inside the Xbox 360?' Now, the website thinks it has found the answer to its question. No, it's not Linux or BSD, nor a derivative of Longhorn or Windows CE."

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  1. Wow by gowen · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's Windows 2000. What a shock, who would've guessed, I'm so exci..... ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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    1. Re:Wow by gowen · · Score: 5, Interesting
      I guess its easy enough for them to port win2k to the power arch
      Given the modular VMS-like core that's at the heart of WinNT, I wouldn't be surprised if it was fairly easily ported to a lot of architectures. Then, as you say, if you only need a limited set of device drivers, you're well on your way to having a full OS.
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    2. Re:Wow by gstovall · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, since Microsoft used to sell WinNT for PowerPC (I used to have a few of the machines), and Win2K is just an update of WinNT, I presume it was pretty trivial for them to do this.

    3. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Let's see... Hyperbole, check. Extreme generalizations, check. Bald-faced lies, check. Strawman and matches, check. Non sequitur insults, check. 2+ uses of a 'curse word', check. Belief in inherent self-superiority uber alles for being an emo chestbeater, check.

      Stricken nerve, check.

      Too easy. Catch ya next time, sucker.

  2. Three letters... by Waltre · · Score: 5, Funny

    DOS

  3. First Power chips on the X-box by G27+Radio · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's next? Next thing you know Apple will start using Intel chips instead. Strange days. :)

  4. IBM is making out well by 1967mustangman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They are making the PowerPC for the Xbox and the Cell for the new Playstation. It seems like they will be the real winner in the next round of game wars.

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  5. Faeries... by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 5, Funny

    My guess is faeries. They captured a whole mess of them and have chained them to tiny little switchboards in the machine. I was going to say leprachauns, but the extra gold they carry around would make the machines too heavy.

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  6. Re:My question is. . . by Jozer99 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What would you run on it? The XBox was cobbled together from basically off the shelf hardware. 4 years down the line, and we still haven't gotten everything working with Linux yet. The XBox 360 has NO OFF THE SHELF HARDWARE. You would need to reverse engineer the processor, graphics processor, RAM, filesystem, and system bus, not to mention audio, usb and IR controllers. I won't even go into the rights management system, which I imagine can only be stronger than on the original XBox (2048 bit encryption key needed to boot the XBox 1) Then you would have to write your own APIs and compilers for accessing said devices. I don't think the OS is the biggest problem in terms of hackability right now.

  7. Re:What a letdown! by ghoti · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thanks for ruining that movie for me, you insensitive clod!

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  8. Re:My question is. . . by MrAnnoyanceToYou · · Score: 5, Informative

    XBox was a 400$+ Million Loss Leader.

    Anyone else know how to spell 'monopoly'?

  9. Re:My question is. . . by Alarash · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Actually, I don't think it will be too hard to hack the XB 360. The development kits (you know, what the manufacturer sends to developpers so they can develop their games even before the console is available) consist of two G4's. This leaked out from E3 when two guys from some magazine noticed that the cables of the console displayed at the expo were running behind it, and they could see the G4's. No, I don't have the link right now, but if you dig some gaming websites they should have it.

    I guess my point is : if the dev kits are using G4's PowerPC, does it make the console easier to crack ?

  10. Re:What OS? by King_TJ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The OS is rather irrelevant when you're talking about embedded systems or for that matter, any system which just does its designed tasks with little direct human interaction.

    That's why, as long as they keep on reading your ATM card and spitting out money properly, most people don't care a whole lot which OS their ATM machine runs.

    The only reason we really have "OS wars" today is because people have differing opinions on the way things should be presented on the screen to them as an interactive user of said OS. (And secondarily, technical debates on such things as security ... but let's be honest here. A lot of pretty darn important systems run on Windows, despite all the complaints about it being "insecure". There's a strong 3rd. party market happy to try to shore up those holes for a price - and plenty of customers willing to pay for those "improvements".)

    Most of the time, when someone expresses a strong preference for Mac OS X, they're really expressing a fondness for the overall look and feel of the GUI.... Perhaps they favor the drap and drop nature of everything, with file management being done by symbolic folders that automatically open up when you hold the mouse button down while pointing at one? Maybe OS X Tiger users just fell in love with the Dashboard widgets or the Spotlight search feature, or who knows?

    Same with any other OS I can think of. Even MS-DOS users argued for it because of it's stark simplicity. "Only one exact way to do a specific task... no confusion of "What does the picture on my screen do that looks like *this*?" Easy to write down a step-by-step instruction sheet so anyone who can type can get a task done in it.

    None of these things really matter on a system that nobody interfaces with directly very often. If it just serves up web pages or files or acts as a back-end to a database, or whatever ... as long as it keeps running, people don't care what it runs.

  11. You don't understand the word monopoly. by Some+Random+Username · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just because MS doesn't have a monopoly in every single market (yet), doesn't mean they don't have a monopoly. The problem with the xbox is that they are using the billions of dollars they made from their OS monopoly to push their way into other markets.