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Searching for Quailty A/V Carts?

Tyrson asks: "I work at a university and we are looking to purchase new A/V carts. At the moment we have the plain and simple shelves-on-wheels and the nicer multimedia display carts. The simple carts are sturdy yet insecure and lack useful features. The display carts are secure and useful yet built from weaker materials that only last a few semesters. We are looking for A/V carts with useful features preferably built from metal or plastics. After googling it and making some phone calls I had found several good carts that were sadly upwards of $1,200 apiece. I don't expect them to be cheap, but $1,200 was a little to steep. Does Slashdot have some suggestions for us?"

43 comments

  1. Long's AV by waynegoode · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not sure exactly what you are looking for, but try this category at Long's AV. Also search for 'cart' to see more. $100 to $600.

    1. Re:Long's AV by fodi · · Score: 1

      What? You mean he's after a trolley? and he comes to slashdot to find out? What's the big deal? it has wheels, and shelves and you put things onto it and move it around... This story's just plain weird.

      Maybe someone out there can help me find the perfect role of sticky tape. I want one with a few features, will last the whole semester, preferable made of plastic and doesn't cost upward of $1200. Hold on, I'll ask slashdot !!

    2. Re:Long's AV by tha_mink · · Score: 1

      What? You mean he's after a trolley? and he comes to slashdot to find out? What's the big deal? it has wheels, and shelves and you put things onto it and move it around... This story's just plain weird.

      Maybe someone out there can help me find the perfect role of sticky tape. I want one with a few features, will last the whole semester, preferable made of plastic and doesn't cost upward of $1200. Hold on, I'll ask slashdot !!


      Well, it *is* "News for Nerds"...I guess the "Stuff that Matters" fell by the wayside on this one...

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  2. I think not... by waynegoode · · Score: 1
    FRIST PSOT!!1

    I think not. Maybe if you had not wasted so much time checking your spelling and checking to make sure your CAPS LOCK key was not accidently set you would have made it.

  3. What's an A/V Cart? by fodi · · Score: 1

    C'Mon, honestly !! I can't be the only one that's not heard of these.. As far as I can tell, you're referring to and Audio/Video Cartridge? BUt the 'shelves' reference throws that out the window. Or are you looking for a shopping cart with an Audio/Video display on it for showing the customers adverts while they cruise the aisles??

    1. Re:What's an A/V Cart? by robdavy · · Score: 1
      They're carts that places (often Educational) put TV's, VCR's, DVD Players, etc on, that can be wheeled from room to room when needed.

      Think these:
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  4. Preempt the initiate questions... by bergeron76 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    AV Carts are Audio Video Cartridges used in high volume A/V data media centers.

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    1. Re:Preempt the initiate questions... by robdavy · · Score: 1
      No, in this case he means Cart as in Cart, as in thing with Wheels on.

      They're for putting TVs, VCRs, DVDs, etc on, and wheeling from room to room, often used in Educational establishments

    2. Re:Preempt the initiate questions... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      mod parent: -1, Cluelessly misinformative

      "A/V carts" are A/V carts, used in educational institutions to move A/V gear around as needed.

  5. Spell pedantic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pedanism , Honestly does it really matter .If he wants an A/V card for game-birds then whats your problem with that.

    1. Re:Spell pedantic by LSD-OBS · · Score: 1

      It's spelled "pedantism". Besides, I think you mean "pedantry".

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  6. Put those university resources to good use by Toxygen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In our university complex (and I suspect in many) we have machine shops that are well equipped enough to build nearly anything you have the imagination for, and plenty of classes where students are taught and trained to do the building. Why not take your request to the professors of these classes and have them build some for you? It would be an excellent practical project for the students and you could save a boatload of money on parts/labour for a system that could be custom built to fit your needs.

    An example of a similar project happened a few years ago when the university needed a new retaining wall built for a pretty high and nasty hill next to the road. The old wall was basically a big slab of concrete and it had a very pronounced lean towards the road and was in danger of collapsing, so instead of hiring someone to design a new one they gave the project to the senior engineering students who designed a new wall for their school. That part of campus that was once an eyesore is now a beautiful piece of landscaping.

    1. Re:Put those university resources to good use by bitingduck · · Score: 1

      Why not take your request to the professors of these classes and have them build some for you?

      It doesn't even have to be for a class. A lot of universities have one or more "student shops" that students can pretty much use on their own, generally for school related things (grad students in experimental physics, for example, tend to do a lot of machining). Even when the shops belong to one department, they tend to be shared to avoid duplicating resources too much. You can probably get someone who can weld (it's not hard), and weld up some nice carts on the cheap. You could probably do nice sturdy wooden ones, too, if a wood shop is easier to come by.

    2. Re:Put those university resources to good use by MrRoarkeLovesTattoo · · Score: 1

      I agree, get your engineering department or if you have a "shop" type of program get those welders and designers involved. If you want to get inventive talk to your art department. This isn't American Chopper or Monster Garage, but it could be just as much fun for the right designers.

    3. Re:Put those university resources to good use by pipingguy · · Score: 1


      I think this is an excellent idea. If you have a mechanical engineering department, ask a professor to initiate a class project to design and build what you need. AutoCAD should be available to the design students and there are sheet metal bending programs available for free (as evaluation-ware) on the net. Plastic construction is not really feasible for this "home-built" type of thing.

      I'd like a followup on how this project develops if the decision is made to build the carts. BTW, what does one look like?

  7. Simple answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Go to your local hardware supercenter and invest $60 in plywood and nails. Build your carts exaclty like you want em. Done!

    I've seen some lame Ask Slashdots but requests for sourcing of standard commodity itemstakes the cake. What next? Dear Slashdot, where's the best place to buy toilet paper? Sheesh!

    1. Re:Simple answer by lagerbottom · · Score: 1

      ya know, I hate to say it, but I had a similar thought when I read this one. I am not sure this is a quality ask slash post. I think anyone with the internet could look this stuff up and make easy decsions about a product like this.

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    2. Re:Simple answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just in case you're not joking, doing this would likely violate OSHA regulations.

      I agree tho -- How fucking stupid do you have to be to "Ask Slashdot" before looking in the friggin yellow pages.

  8. Partnership.... by RedLeg · · Score: 1

    Buy -one- of each of the top three candidates. Conduct a trial to determine which works best, and what features from the #2 and #3 you would also like.

    Now, find the local Vo-Tech and ask them if they would be interested in manufacturing a few custom carts to your specs.

  9. InterMetro by TomSawyer · · Score: 3, Informative

    I guess they've changed their name to metro, but they have modular commercial shelf systems capable of carrying 800 lbs. per shelf. To turn them into a cart just requires modular parts like big beefy wheels. I put together my entertainment center from their parts and had my fat ass relatives sit on them to test the weight claim. I'm very happy with them and I can always turn them into something else. They're chromed steel so I don't have worries of scratching them or corrosion. I did put solid wood panels on the shelves for looks and a more stable surface for my electronics but you might prefer the ventilation.

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    1. Re:InterMetro by Baloo+Ursidae · · Score: 1
      Heheh, InterMetro...for people who love their house to look like the stockrooms, kitchens and light storage rooms of the Oregon Zoo.

      This is particularly amusing, since I used to work in retail before they privatized my department. That zoo has by coincidence a Jurassic Park-esque look to it and have enough of a sense of humor about it to occasionally play music from the movie soundtrack. But working around that shelving all day every day with the occasional Jurassic Park soundtrack music thrown in the mix, it's hard not to not associate metro shelving with veliociraptors, especially if it's been dark and rainy all day.

      So I read your post and immediately thought, "Jurassic Living Room" or some Straight Eye for the Gay Guy ripoff that I can't even begin to make rhyme...

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    2. Re:InterMetro by Intron · · Score: 1

      When we filled the tables in our server room, we put everything on metro carts. The open wire shelves are good for both ventilation and tie-wrapping cables. I put about 50% more stuff in the room using these.

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  10. Go Anthro by DaRat · · Score: 3, Informative

    Anthro Corporation has some of the best components to make A/V and general computer carts around. You can make a pretty pricey cart, but you can also get by with a reasonably priced cart. The best part is that you can configure the cart exactly the way that you need it. The carts are extremely sturdy and well built.

    Look out for their sales. The April sale was 35% off on phone orders

  11. Check out Anthro. by Mark+Imbriaco · · Score: 2, Informative


    Anthro makes some excellent products that could probably be configured to meet your needs. I use an Anthro fit System Standard unit as my primary desk, and I absolutely love it. I think their utility cart would probably suit you well. They also do quantity discounts based on the dollar value of your order.

    Good luck.

    1. Re:Check out Anthro. by Mark+Imbriaco · · Score: 1

      ... oh, and it looks like the utility unit I mentioned above is on sale right now. You could buy the basic carts at this sale price and add to it to get to the configuration you need.

    2. Re:Check out Anthro. by phillymjs · · Score: 1

      I concur with the Anthro recommendation. You might also want to check out Global Industrial's selection.

      The good stuff can be pricey, but it's worth it.

      ~Philly

  12. Home-made by Ratbert42 · · Score: 1

    My church / preschool makes them themselves from high quality plywood and hardware. They've outlasted plenty of commercial furniture.

    1. Re:Home-made by lupinstel · · Score: 1, Funny

      For being in preschool you have some pretty good english and typing skills. You get a gold star!

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  13. SMARTdesks by capaz · · Score: 3, Informative

    We've used the lectern/podium units from SMARTdesks. They cost $1000+, but were lockable and had lots of nice features and custom options (we had custom cut-outs for VCR's in the front doors).

    My main beef with them is that, though sturdier than some, they did still tend to break down (broken hinges, etc.) over time.

    One annoyance that we've had to deal with is that in order for these to be relatively movable in a classroom, we have to tether them to a wall panel with a sizable cable bundle (power, vga, VCR a/v, ethernet, etc.). Of course, now we would go with wi-fi instead of wired ethernet, but still can't get around the other cables. I sure would like to find a better way...

  14. Not a dumb question by greenlead · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This isn't a dumb question at all. A couple of months ago I was planning one of these out. I wanted a rackmounted computer/sound system for my church on a cart, so that I could move it anywhere in or out of the building, and still be setup quickly. I wanted to keep it closed, for better security. I also wanted to have a ventilation system, complete with a a temperature-controlled switch to turn on extra fans if the equipment gets too hot. I wanted to have a KVM so that someone could plug in a laptop if they needed to run the projector without having to know how everything in it works. Unfortunately, I lacked funding, so I never got to find out how my design would work.

  15. Typical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet another "Dear /., where can I find good shit for cheap?"
    Colour me surprised.

  16. Tektronix scope carts by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 1
    Back in the day when scopes weighed 70 lbs+, Tektronix made carts that are built better than today's cars.

    Just look for a Tektronix Scopemobile cart. The older, the more metal it has.

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  17. Right... by cr0sh · · Score: 1
    You can probably get someone who can weld (it's not hard)

    I am not sure if you are commenting here on "getting someone" or "welding" - if the former, I appollogize for the following, but if the latter...

    For a beginner, welding is anything but easy. Welding is a skill that takes a lot of practice and a bit of stamina as well. It takes a knowledge of metals and heat, how thickness of metal, temperature of the metal, the kind of metal (and in certain cases, if you are welding two similar, but not quite the same types of steel together, the knowledge of that), etc - to produce a good weld.

    It takes practice to learn what a good weld looks like, and if you are stick welding, what the welding process sounds like to make a good weld (if your stick is too close, you will stick to the weld and short, too far, and you will sputter with less heat on the weld, producing a "cold" weld, which is weak).

    Complete knowledge of all types of welding is not necessary, but knowledge is always a good thing - you have options of rod/stick welding, gas welding (using an oxy/acet rig generally - though there are such weird things as "Brown's Gas" generators for welding using hydrogen/oxygen mix), and wire-feed (which is basically rod welding, but with wire instead of a solid rod - sometimes with flux core, other times with argon for MIG work).

    Welding is anything but easy, especially for a beginner. Wire-feed can probably be picked up quicker than the other methods, but I am biased to stick welding, because it teaches patience and control (in stick welding you have to learn to strike the arc, get it going, make the weld, see the weld, move the rod along the weld path, while simultaneously feeding the rod into the weld as you progress - very, very difficult to learn, takes a TON of patience - in wire-feed, you set a control to control the rate at which the wire is fed into the weld automatically - you still have to learn how to set the rate for the weld you are doing). When you are working with hot (very, very hot) metal - patience and control are essential. If you don't have both, serious accidents and injuries are inevitable (not that even an experienced welder won't have accidents - a big one is not being able to see a fire in the welding mask, the flame doesn't have a high enough heat to register).

    I would also reccommend starting with a standard welding mask and learning to strike the arc "blind" (I swear, it is like a Jedi mind trick or something to strike that arc blind - one the arc is struck, you can *easily* see what you are doing then) - once you get comfortable with this, move on to an auto-darkening mask.

    Also, one of the big mistakes beginning welders sometimes make is not wearing dark clothes (light clothes can reflect the arc light under the mask and cause a temporary, but painful condition, called "welder's blindness" - basically a UV exposure burn on the eyes), or using regular leather gloves instead of welding gloves (pick up that hot metal piece you just welded and feel the burn instantly!).

    Finally - there is knowing how to gas weld and how to use an oxy/acet rig to cut steel and other metals (fun stuff!).

    I don't say these things to make welding seem like it is too difficult - once you begin learning how to weld and start making things welding, you never look at metal the same way again. You start to see ways of doing things that can only be done with raw steel. You start looking at scrap metal parts and such in a completely different light - "ooh, shiny - what can I weld up with that!". I encourage anyone who has ever thought about welding to look into doing so - it isn't too expensive to get started (just don't go overboard with a 220V Hobart Wire-Feed rig on your first outing) - small welding projects can easily be taken on for under a $200.00 cash outlay for equipment. That will get you a small 110V AC buzzbox rod welder (fine for 1/16" to 3/8" welds), some 1/16" rod, a mask, a pair of gloves, a welding chipper hammer, and a wire brush. Some

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    1. Re:Right... by pipingguy · · Score: 1


      For a beginner, welding is anything but easy. Welding is a skill that takes a lot of practice and a bit of stamina as well. It takes a knowledge of metals and heat, how thickness of metal, temperature of the metal, the kind of metal (and in certain cases, if you are welding two similar, but not quite the same types of steel together, the knowledge of that), etc - to produce a good weld.

      Good advice and great details (and beyond my competence level), but I think the project in question is a bit simpler than that.

      See my lame-o collection of supposedly good links at pipingdesign.com/welding.html.

      I don't find your "beginning to weld" document at your site.

    2. Re:Right... by bitingduck · · Score: 1

      Sure, you can make welding as hard as you want, but the OP is looking for a sturdy AV cart, not a precision road bike made from thinwall titanium or a bridge to support tanks crossing the Tigris.

      A decent MIG welder and a bunch of cheap steel and even a beginner can be putting together AV carts in a couple hours (I was certainly doing more difficult stuff than that after an hour or two). I wouldn't even recommend buying a welder for a project like that-- borrow one or use one from somewhere at the university and have the person responsible for the welder help out at the beginning.

    3. Re:Right... by cr0sh · · Score: 1
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    4. Re:Right... by cr0sh · · Score: 1
      You may have been a "natural born welder" - I started out using a 220V AC/DC stick rig filling holes and cracks on the frame of an old, dirty, rusty, oily leaking pig of a fourteen wheel dump truck behind a house in the hot summer afternoon Phoenix, Arizona sun - ie, typical welding conditions (heh). My rod stuck constantly, I probably had heat stroke, I thought I would die from the welding fumes - but learn to weld I did, eventually, because I knew in the end it would be worth it, and it was. I guess I should be thankful I wasn't learning to weld with oxy/acet...

      Not all beginners are "naturals", in fact, most aren't. Consider yourself lucky and fortunate that you didn't have to go through the hell and frustration of learning to weld. My point stands that welding for (most) beginners is anything but simple...

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  18. Specialization of labor vs. wasting your time by zenbanana · · Score: 1

    No, no. You should always try to find a comercially available product before custom making one (unless it's for fun or for learning something yourself) Yes, we could all knit our own clothing and build our own houses, but specialization of labor is a basic principle of Western Civilization and ignoring it means wasting your time doing tasks it's cheaper to hire others to do. Why would anyone want to get custom-made equipment commissioned for such a clearly commercially-available product? Also, about that wall. Unless this wall was built in a jurisdiction or country that has no uniform building code, a licensed structural or civil engineer had to run the calculations on the wall's structural properties and had to stamp the drawings. It's a nice fantasy to imagine a bunch of students created something aesthetically superior to the previous retaining wall, but they didn't; it was created by licensed, trained and experienced specialists, not a bunch of college students. They may have helped, but no professional engineer (P.E.) would risk his or her accreditation and liability insurance by allowing engineering students to be the primary creators of something as potentially dangerous as a retaining wall.

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    1. Re:Specialization of labor vs. wasting your time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would anyone want to get custom-made equipment commissioned for such a clearly commercially-available product?

      Because the cart costs $1,200, and contains about $10 in raw materials?

      Also, because a student labourer would make the cart for $15 an hour (or much less!) and probably complete the job in under a day. $15 * 7 + 10 = $115.

    2. Re:Specialization of labor vs. wasting your time by ottothecow · · Score: 1

      In most situations you wouldnt, but here we have a school which has a section of their students who are LEARNING TO BE those specialized laborers. What better way to make sure they are ready than to give them a real problem to put into production.

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  19. with useful features by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You want a cart "with useful features" but you don't have any idea what they could be? I bet when you call customer support you ask "My Windows doesn't work. Can you tell me what's wrong?" Least intelligent question, evah.