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Europe Home to Majority of Zombies

Rei writes "According to a recent CipherTrust study, the majority of Zombie PCs reside not in the US or China, but in Europe. Of the European zombies, 2/3 were either in Germany, France, or Britain. The results were released with the announcement of CipherTrust's new ZombieMeter. As a response to previous reports of high zombie activity, the London Action Plan launched Operation Spam Zombies in cooperation with numerous governments around the world."

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  1. This might give us a hint ... by Raindance · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... as to where the evil clerics are.

  2. This is so obvious. by Seumas · · Score: 5, Funny

    This has been obvious to me ever since Wolfenstein 3D almost 14 years ago.

  3. Unbelievable by SamMichaels · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This just goes to show that no one knows where spam and zombies reside. Everyone's "research" (obviously riddled with bias) says it's some place else.

  4. Velcome to Shproket by jrivar59 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Voud u like to touch my zombie?

  5. Solution... by da3dAlus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Call in Shaun of the Dead!

    Ed: Any zombies out there?
    Shaun: Don't say that!
    Ed: What?
    Shaun: The "zed" word. Don't say it!
    Ed: Well... are they any?
    Shaun: I don't see any. Maybe it's not as bad as all that.
    Shaun: Oh, no wait, there they are.

    --

    Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion.
  6. Thank God by Chemical · · Score: 5, Informative

    I expected something like this might happen some day, but I'm ready, thanks to this. Bring it on!

  7. That isn't what the Zombie Meter says... by colinemckay · · Score: 5, Informative

    Top 10 includes the US at 28.5%. No EU country is in the top ten list. "during the first three weeks of May, approximately 26% of daily new zombies originated in the European Union, including 6%, 5% and 3% of new zombies originated in Germany, France and the United Kingdom, respectively." That's NEW zombies. The EU share of zombies is increasing, but it isn't the major source (yet).

  8. Time for new SMTP error messages by TheNarrator · · Score: 4, Funny

    550 : Recipient address rejected: cleric casts repel undead at spam zombie;

  9. Re:Why is this so? by LurkerXXX · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How do you know they weren't patched? Patching doesn't really help you when the user runs the executable attachment they got in their email, or installs something shiny they found on the web.

  10. I'm surprised there isn't a RBL for zonbies yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Back in the 1990s, Spam was a big problem. The problem was that a number of ISPs would ignore Spam complaints, or would even encourage spammers to be on their networks. Once enough ISPs refused to listen to complaints, Paul Vixie started the Realtime Blackhole List, which would allow people to find out if a given IP was blacklisted, and refused to receive email from a blacklisted IP.

    I worked at Netcom when we ended up on the RBL. We did not have strong Spam protection; for example, our credit card verifier did not contact the credit card company before giving someone internet access. Even after being placed on the RBL, management was unwilling to expend the resources needed to stop our Spam problem; they thought the RBL would just go away. Meanwhile, the number of people calling or emailing technical support doubled because they could not send mail increased (I helped make some graphs showing the increase in emails to tech support to convince management that this was a real problem). It took months for management to wake up, smell the coffee, and make it harder for spammers to get throw-away accounts on Netcom's network.

    (For NANOG regulars at the time: It was I who wrote the "Keman-bot")

    A similiar list needs to be set up; if a given ISP has zombies and does not cut off said zombies from the internet, the ISP needs to be blacklisted RBL style. Maybe then management will do something about the zonbie problem--such as cutting of zombie machines from the internet (redirecting all HTTP queries to a "You're a zombie so we cut you off page" for example).

  11. duh by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was working on the mail server today, and going through logs tracking a clamav/amavis problem.

    I started to notice that...one...after...another...the buggers were connecting. We're not even a very big site (just got a bunch of mailing lists). The DNS names were xxx-yyy-zzz-aaa.(something).(insert european country code).

    They outnumbered legitimate connections easily 5:1 or more, and the sessions all consisted of:

    client: "HELO, I'm in your domain! Here, have some email"
    Postfix: "take a flying leap."

    client: "HELO, I'm in your domain! Here, have some email"
    Postfix: "take a flying leap."

    client: "HELO, I'm in your domain! Here, have some email"
    Postfix: "take a flying leap."

    Every single one would try and send between 3 and 5 messages before finally realizing it wasn't going to work, and disconnecting. It's irritating, because we do actually run a couple of DNS blacklists, but it seems a lot of european systems aren't on them.

    When are we going to stop taking the "oh, we'll just filter it" attitude? Feels like all we've accomplished in half a decade is to do spammer's work for them and make users complacent by hiding all this shit from them. It's a classic white elephant problem if I ever saw it...

    1. Re:duh by DigitalRaptor · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What we need is for Postfix to have a built in ability to report IP addresses to which it responds "take a flying leap", once per day, and for the top 1,000 of those IP addresses to be included in a report.

      As a safety measure, the IP address has to be reported by X number or percent of the participating Postfix hosts to be considered valid.

      Any IP address is added for a short period of time, say 72 hours, so if it's a machine that is hacked and quickly fixed the IP isn't blacklisted forever.

      It seems like a distributed, real-time system like this would be effective.

      --
      Lose Weight and Feel Great with Isagenix
    2. Re:duh by v1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      unfortunately, the spammers are not benieth attacking focal points of anti-spam activity. dnsrbl.com is down because it was hammered by a coordinated DDOS for an extended period of time, burning up their funds with bandwidth charges. The spammers may be cutthroat self-centered lowlifes, but they can recognize and coordinate against a threat very effectively when they have a few hunderd thousand zombies each to do their bidding.

      --
      I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
  12. Pfft, old news by Y-Crate · · Score: 5, Funny

    Everybody knows '28 Days Later' started out as a warning about the dangers of spam.

  13. Take some responsibility by dark+grep · · Score: 4, Interesting
    From the very start we (an ISP) have told our customers they are responsible for the proper use of their computers. If you own a car and drive it into a schoolyard and kill someone's child, it is not an acceptable defence to say "Shucks, I didn't know how to drive, not my fault".

    So too, if you own a computer and want to be part of a community of connected computers, not bothering to inform yourself of how to do that does not excuse your responsibility for whatever damage your computer causes.

    So what we do to spam zombies is:

    a) block them totally and stop them from causing any more damage

    b) send them an email telling them how much it cost to clean up their mess (usualy around $500), and that we will bill them if they do it again

    c) only unblock them when they give us their assurance they understand what the future costs may be an will never allow it to happen again

    d) permanently disconnect them and bill them the full amount of sysadmin and helpdesk time and materials of they allow it to happen again.

    It's a really tough line, sure, we have lost maybe 3 customers as a result in 18 months (average spend per customer is $34 per month), out of 20,000. But it is far, far cheaper that the cost of just letting it happen unchecked.

  14. the 6th sense by MasterSLATE · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cole: I see dead people...
    Crowe: In your dreams?
    Cole shakes his head
    Crowe: While you're awake?
    Cole nods
    Crowe: Dead people like in graves and coffins?
    Cole: ...They don't know they're dead
    Crowe: How often do you see them?
    Cole: everytime I go to Europe, (pause) they're everywhere...

    --

    [sig]www.masterslate.org[/sig]
  15. Hooray for the Internet by mcc · · Score: 5, Funny

    Man. If you could go back in time to 1980 and tell everyone that in 25 years, European governments would be spearheading an initiative called "Operation Spam Zombies", and that this name was not in any way meant to be humorous, the looks on peoples faces would be priceless.

  16. not rocket science by macpeep · · Score: 4, Interesting

    EU has 460 million people. USA has 300 million people.

    Assuming the same level of spread of Internet access, the EU should have 1.5 times more zombies than the USA.

    The site mentioned in the article shows that in May, EU had 1320985 zombies and the USA had 964020. That means the EU has 1.37 times the zombies of the USA, despite having 1.5 times more people.

    In 2004, Internet usage rates were at 47% in EU and 52% in the USA.

    Conclusion: the zombie rates don't vary between USA and Europe. Population, on the other hand, does vary. Therefore, you can expect the EU to continue to have more zombies than the USA. Also, as China's and India's internet usage grows, they will probably pull ahead in the stats.

    Disclaimer: The numbers were pulled from various sites online using Google for searching. If someone has conflicting figures one way or the other, I wouldn't be surprised.