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Basics of Modern Intel CPUs

Doggie Fizzle writes "For those who think you can drop a Xeon into your Celeron system for an upgrade... 'Although there are currently only two main players in the CPU market, AMD and Intel, the number of choices is still enough to make the typical consumer's head spin. Each manufacturer has a few different models to promote, and many of these models can be found in a few different form factors (namely, the "sockets" to which they connect) that exclude interchangeability. This two-part series of Tech Tips will look at a few details of each of the currently-supported CPU (Central Processing Unit) sockets and how they are all similar and different from one to another' "

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  1. Finally. by Xzzy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thank god someone finally explained what the acronym "CPU" meant, I've been wondering about that for years, quietly bobbing my head like I know what's going on anytime someone mentions it.

    And I owe it all to Slashdot.

    1. Re:Finally. by peragrin · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just wait till you get to FPGA's.

      Just before you do tape it I want to watch your head spin up and explode. :-)

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  2. Confusion by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Also AMD is casting doubt on Intel's claim of dual core. Explains how Intel beat them to market, just do a cheap shortcut.

    As if sockets aren't enough, there's now two video card standards AGP and SLI (card: PCI-E) which caught me by surprise. I had to change my order before shipping as I didn't realise I could not use an AGP card with the new SLI/PCI-E configuration. Better? I don't need to spend $$$, my existing video card works fine, I just wanted to upgrade the mobo and CPU.

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    1. Re:Confusion by eht · · Score: 3, Informative

      Move to PCI-X? I've been using PCI-X cards and slots for about 2 years, just recently have I been using PCI-E, PCI-X is also compatible with standard PCI slots, it's just faster versions of the 64 bit type.

      PCI-E (PCI-Express) is a brand new slot of varying lengths which enable different speed cards, x1 slots are capable of of 313 megabytes/sec, x16 which is common for graphics cards is 5000megabytes/sec, twice as fast as AGP 8x.

      Current PCI-X speeds for the 133 mhz version is 1067 megabytes/sec(there is also a slower 100 mhz version of PCI-X), there is a PCI-X version2 coming out with bus speeds of up to 533 mhz, enabling 4267 megabytes/sec.

  3. Only two ? by alexhs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Although there are currently only two main players in the CPU market, AMD and Intel [...]

    Huh ?
    What about IBM and all those embedded CPUS ?
    Did you mean PC Desktop CPU market ?

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    1. Re:Only two ? by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 3, Interesting

      On a day-to-day basis I run in to four kinds of CPUs: x86 (typing this on one), UltraSPARC (most of the boxes at work, plus an Ultra 5 I bought on EBay to play with), ARM (my Palm - one of the new ones), Power PC (stuff at work) and several 68k derivatives (various boxes at work from little to seriously studly).

      This doesn't include the niche processors, Analog Devices and TI DSPs, various PICs, and so on.

      ...laura who actually owns a DragonBall development board

  4. Re:Surely... by saderax · · Score: 5, Funny

    My keen intuition informs me that the difference is precisely 461.

  5. Authorship by Stankatz · · Score: 3, Informative

    "Doggie Fizzle writes[...]" No, Jason Kohrs wrote it. "Doggie Fizzle" copied and pasted it. I think the /. editors need to change their format a bit so as not to mislead readers about who writes these "summaries".

    (And thanks in advance for moderating me "Troll" or "Offtopic" for pointing this out.)

  6. Two is too many! by SeaFox · · Score: 3, Funny
    "Although there are currently only two main players in the CPU market, AMD and Intel, the number of choices is still enough to make the typical consumer's head spin."

    Maybe this is why there's a near monolopy in operating systems, it's a good thing. Giving customers an actual choice seems to be enough to make their heads spin.

  7. Re:WOW!!! by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you're going to insult somebody, at least learn how to spell 'Deodorant'. Moron.

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  8. Interesting analogy by Zapraki · · Score: 4, Informative
    Ok, this is somewhat OT, but I think it's the best "layman" description of processor improvement that I've ever read. This is from Clock Speed: Tell Me When it Hertz by H. Gilbert, Dec. 22, 2004. Available at http://pclt.cis.yale.edu/pclt/PCHW/clockidea.htm/
    There are five ways to increase the processing power of a CPU or the teaching power of a High School.

    Raise the clock speed - In the analogy, this corresponds to reducing the time available for each class period. If the teacher can talk faster, and if the students behave and listen more closely, this can work up to a point. Each student gets done with the school day earlier.

    Build a Pipeline - A more complicated solution shortens the class period, but then breaks each subject into a sequence of steps. If it takes 45 minutes to cover Algebra, and that time cannot be reduced, then the subject could be covered in three consecutive 15 minute periods. A simpler subject might be covered in just one period. After all, there is no reason other than the convenience of scheduling why every every class for every subject lasts the same period of time. Students get done quicker, but only if some of the subjects are light weight.

    Parallelism - Add more classrooms and more students. No one student learns anything faster, but at the end of the day the school has taught more people in the same amount of time. Of course, this only works if you have more students in the school district to teach.

    Class Size - double the number of students in each classroom. High Schools don't like to do this. Computers, however, can easily switch from 32 to 64 bit operations. This will not effect most programs, but the particular applications that need processing power (games, multimedia) can be distributed in a 64 bit form to get more work done per operation.

    Build a Second School - Sometime in '05 or '06 both Intel and AMD will begin to ship "multi-core" processor chips. This creates a system with two separate CPUs. An individual program won't run any faster, and if these chips have a slower clock may even run more slowly. However, two programs will be able to run at once, and programs that require the most performance (games, multimedia) can be written to use both CPUs at once.