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Morse Coders Beat SMSers

dgnicholson writes "Jay Leno did a text off between two text messengers and two Morse coders. The Morse coders handily beat the young whippersnappers with time to spare. It might be a fun phone app to make a Morse code messenger, if you kept your headset in and had an external sender, could be interesting. Perhaps a Morse code Skype device."

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  1. no surprise... by professorhojo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anyone using morse code on an even occasional basis should have guessed that it would cream the text messagers! There are three simple reasons: (1) A single character of Morse can be keyed in less time than a single character can be entered on the cell phone with the "TAP" method. (2) With the bug, there is no delay created by moving the finger from button to button. (3) Most importantly, however, the text message is time-shifted, whereas morse transmission is real-time. When the sender is done, the recipient is done also.

    1. Re:no surprise... by nacturation · · Score: 4, Informative

      Granted, but let's see them repeat the experiment with a device that has a full keyboard on it. I've known people who can type on QWERTY at 120 WPM sustained, let's see any morse guy keep up. Or get one of those closed caption keyers to compete as well -- they apparently go up to 250 WPM.

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    2. Re:no surprise... by wallitron · · Score: 5, Funny

      Granted, but let's see them repeat the experiment with a device that has a full keyboard on it.

      Or what about get the guy holding the SMS device (phone) to type in a specially crafted 10 digit number allowing a two way audio connection between two devices.

      Every person on the planet has a wife, sister or mother than can talk faster than 250+ WPM.

    3. Re:no surprise... by n9hmg · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, the morse guys were amateurs as well. Neither of them has ever had a job in which use of morse code was part of the job.
      The earlier contest, on which this one was based, was held in Australia, and was much more lopsided. The SMSer was a high school girl who did NOT have the world record, and the morse code guys were 90-year-old retired telegraphers. It's been a very long time since anybody got paid to send morse code.
      Chip and Ken are amateur radio operators, K7JA and K6CTW. The tonight show staff just dressed them up like old-time telegraphers.
      VILLAGER #1: Well, we did do the nose.
      BEDEVERE: The nose?
      VILLAGER #1: And the hat, but she is a witch!

      The big advantage they had is not the quality of their paddles nor the lack of time shifting (the twirp wasn't anywhere near done sending when they finished). They could send every letter with their fingers on the same buttons. Sending text from a cell phone is like hunt-and-peck typing. Sending morse code is more like touch-typing. I personally could have beaten Chip and Ken 2:1 or better if I'd been there with a decent keyboard to enter the text, and I'm not a particularly good typist:

      [hiram@flatus hiram]$ time read line
      I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance.

      real 0m6.993s
      user 0m0.000s
      sys 0m0.000s
      [hiram@flatus hiram]$

      Another advantage morse has is that more-common characters have shorter symbols. At the extreme, an E is 1/19 as long as a 0(but only 1/9 as long as a 5 - an artifact of the system for numerics).
      Few of these thoughts are my own. This was discussed to death on ham radio mailing lists, on the air, and in coffee shops nation-wide, 3 weeks ago.

    4. Re:no surprise... by Scrameustache · · Score: 3, Funny
      Who needs a phone? With the experiment they used, all they had to do was shout the message across the room. That technology is hundreds of millions of years old, and predates the human race.

      To be fair, the compression algorithm for this transmission method only allow for two messages:
      "Oh my! I am being bitten!"
      or
      "Boy, am I horny!"

      Off, course, considering they are teens, they pretty much only use the cell phones for variations of message #2, so your point is still valid : )
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  2. Nokia app lets you key SMSes in Morse Code by mocm · · Score: 4, Informative

    Someone already wrote an application for Nokia phones that lets you write your SMS by using Morse code.

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  3. Well, yeah. by msmercenary · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Morse code was created for the purpose of sending text over REALLY low bandwidth. Cell phones were created to talk to people. The idea of entering text with a numeric keypad was a wart they hung on the side of the phone when they realized that a full keyboard wouldn't work.

    Personally, I just don't understand the appeal of text messaging. Maybe that marks me as an old fogey (27), but I just don't need my tendonitis to get any worse, TYVM.

    1. Re:Well, yeah. by Alioth · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Texting avoids the "HELLO, I'M ON THE TRAIN!" syndrome. It is quiet (silent, apart from the beep when a message comes in) and doesn't disturb people around you. You're hardly an old fogey, I'm 6 years older than you but almost exclusively use text messaging - I really don't like using phones, and my mobile has a full QWERTY keyboard so I'd rather text.

    2. Re:Well, yeah. by Wdomburg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'd consider it less annoying than incredibly loud ring tone (as often as not crappy music) followed by HI JOSIE! OMG DID YOU HOOK UP WITH THAT GUY ROB AT THE HORSE'S ASS PUB LAST NIGHT? OMG HE HAD THE CUTEST BUTT! BLAH BLAH BLAH!.

      [Yes, Mr. Lameness Filter. I *know* that all caps is like YELLING. That's the friggin' point in this case. s/Lameness/Lame/)

  4. Re:Dupe by Schemat1c · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why should I keep coming back to /. if the news is repeated, slow and bias?

    I come to slashdot not for late breaking, fresh news, but for the discussion that follows. Who really cares if a submission is a dupe? You are not forced to read it, just skip it and go on to the next one. People that feel the need to point out dupes are just as useless as the grammar/spelling nazis. If you really have nothing to add to the discussion and are just going to whine, why post at all?

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  5. Not a true test. by Domini · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Firstly, the morse code they used was the final optimised product. It basically uses huffman-like compression for english only. Thus texting other languages using morse would not be so efficient.

    Secondly they used TAP method which is outdated and inefficient. Predictive text input is much faster. Also, the US is not the big SMS country. It hardly has GSM! More people still use outdated devices like pagers.

    Thirdly they also tested the transport medium. An SMS may be relayed faster via different networks (sometimes immediate) and can be re-read if something was missed (unless ticker-tape is used). This is not fair, as for very long distance morse messages one can have intermediaries as well which would lengthen the process considerably.

    Fourthly, most people cannot send morsecode while receiving it, thus also making asynchronous conversation slower. (And you cannot receive morse from multiple sources sil

    I've recently been to Japan and had the rare privelege seeing a teenage school-girl on a Train sitting and texting on two phones at the same time! Beat that!

    1. Re:Not a true test. by hb253 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Your stupidity level is tremendoues but not surprising. Drop the damn cell phone (including the useless hands-free options) when you're driving, keep both hands on the steering wheel, and concentrate on driving. I have been involved in so many near misses caused by some idiot playing with his/her cell phone while driving.

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  6. Perhaps a Morse code Skype device. by xpeeblix · · Score: 4, Funny

    OMFG, Slashdot's "Lameness filter" just prevented me from posting a comment on this story in morse code. I cry censorship, someone call the ACLU!

    Try it, if you don't believe me.

  7. Re:morse code over skype by shreevatsa · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Ah, you mean like this?
    #define DIT (
    #define DAH )
    #define __DAH ++
    #define DITDAH *
    #define DAHDIT for
    #define DIT_DAH malloc
    #define DAH_DIT gets
    #define _DAHDIT char
    _DAHDIT _DAH_[]="ETIANMSURWDKGOHVFaLaPJBXCYZQb54a3d2f16g7c 8a90l?e'b.s;i,d:"
    ;main DIT DAH{_DAHDIT
    DITDAH _DIT,DITDAH DAH_,DITDAH DIT_,
    DITDAH _DIT_,DITDAH DIT_DAH DIT
    DAH,DITDAH DAH_DIT DIT DAH;DAHDIT
    DIT _DIT=DIT_DAH DIT 81 DAH,DIT_=_DIT
    __DAH;_DIT==DAH_DIT DIT _DIT DAH;__DIT
    DIT'\n'DAH DAH DAHDIT DIT DAH_=_DIT;DITDAH
    DAH_;__DIT DIT DITDAH
    _DIT_?_DAH DIT DITDAH DIT_ DAH:'?'DAH,__DIT
    DIT' 'DAH,DAH_ __DAH DAH DAHDIT DIT
    DITDAH DIT_=2,_DIT_=_DAH_; DITDAH _DIT_&&DIT
    DITDAH _DIT_!=DIT DITDAH DAH_>='a'? DITDAH
    DAH_&223:DITDAH DAH_ DAH DAH; DIT
    DITDAH DIT_ DAH __DAH,_DIT_ __DAH DAH
    DITDAH DIT_+= DIT DITDAH _DIT_>='a'? DITDAH _DIT_-'a':0
    DAH;}_DAH DIT DIT_ DAH{ __DIT DIT
    DIT_>3?_DAH DIT DIT_>>1 DAH:'\0'DAH;return
    DIT_&1?'-':'.';}__DIT DIT DIT_ DAH _DAHDIT
    DIT_;{DIT void DAH write DIT 1,&DIT_,1 DAH;}

    The greatest thing is, this program actually converts what you type to Morse code.
  8. Re:What you say??? by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Informative
    SMS on a phone keypad is already a morse code. It just happens to involve somewhere around 10 different keys instead of 2.
    ASCII is an EBCDIC. It just happens to use different codes for the character.

    French is a Hindi. It just happens to use different words for most things.

    An electric oven is a gas oven. It just happens to use electricity instead of gas.

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  9. Let me give you the story on this post... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    "morse code [...] uses huffman-like compression for english only"

    This is called "making it up as you go along"

    "Predictive text input is much faster."

    Actually predictive text input is no faster. See? I can make stuff up too!

    "Also, the US is not the big SMS country."

    Uh...which matters because...uh... our champion SMS users are not as good as "their" champion SMS users? What? Huh?

    "It hardly has GSM!"

    Yes, because SMS over CDMA is so much slower. Because it doesn't use the dixie-helmann-thingy compression that ...uh... the morse code thingy uses.

    "More people still use outdated devices like pagers."

    Yes, which really hurts SMS texting rates!

    "Thirdly they also tested the transport medium."

    And this is important because our networks are slower than the Japanese networks because uh... the dixie-helman-mayonnaise compression that is umbiqitious...uh...pagers used... ummm... and why, we hardly have GSM!

    "and can be re-read if something was missed"

    Yes, because I might've missed something in that SMS message that said "CU L8R, LOL!!!!!"

    "This is not fair, as for very long distance morse messages one can have intermediaries as well which would lengthen the process considerably."

    Well, it might have been fairer but they didn't use the Dixie-Helman...thingy that morse code has for uh...non-English languages.

    "thus also making asynchronous conversation slower"

    Oh hell, just call the other person on the phone, and if they're not there, leave a message. My way is fastest of all.

    "I've recently been to Japan and had the rare privelege seeing a teenage school-girl on a Train sitting and texting on two phones at the same time! Beat that!"

    I was recently watching my daughter use AIM talking to 5 people at a time on AIM.

    I win.

    Oh. She was using that Dixie-Hellman-Mayonaisse thingy you keep whining about.

  10. Speed isn't always the primary concern... by Gruneun · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why I prefer SMS over Morse code:
    I don't have to remember any encoding rules.

    Why I prefer phone calls over SMS:
    I don't have to remember how to spell.

    Why I prefer silence over phone calls:
    I don't have to remember to be polite or feign interest.