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Morse Coders Beat SMSers

dgnicholson writes "Jay Leno did a text off between two text messengers and two Morse coders. The Morse coders handily beat the young whippersnappers with time to spare. It might be a fun phone app to make a Morse code messenger, if you kept your headset in and had an external sender, could be interesting. Perhaps a Morse code Skype device."

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  1. no surprise... by professorhojo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anyone using morse code on an even occasional basis should have guessed that it would cream the text messagers! There are three simple reasons: (1) A single character of Morse can be keyed in less time than a single character can be entered on the cell phone with the "TAP" method. (2) With the bug, there is no delay created by moving the finger from button to button. (3) Most importantly, however, the text message is time-shifted, whereas morse transmission is real-time. When the sender is done, the recipient is done also.

    1. Re:no surprise... by dougmc · · Score: 2, Interesting
      ... and the SMSers were teens.
      To be fair, the sending teen (the receiving teen needed no special skills beyond being able to read) had some sort of record at SMS sending speed or something. I seem to recall doing the math and finding that he sent at 30 wpm -- which is pretty impressive, considering! (Of course, the world record for morse code sending and receiving by humans is around 75 wpm.)

      Though he also had the crappy cell phone keyboard (which was probably the point), and the sending ham had a high quality paddle that by itself was bigger than the guy's phone ...

      AD5RH

    2. Re:no surprise... by Kippesoep · · Score: 2, Informative

      I get the distinct impression that teens might as well be considered professional SMSers. The volume of messages they put out is staggering. They're the right choice for the job.

    3. Re:no surprise... by nacturation · · Score: 4, Informative

      Granted, but let's see them repeat the experiment with a device that has a full keyboard on it. I've known people who can type on QWERTY at 120 WPM sustained, let's see any morse guy keep up. Or get one of those closed caption keyers to compete as well -- they apparently go up to 250 WPM.

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    4. Re:no surprise... by wallitron · · Score: 5, Funny

      Granted, but let's see them repeat the experiment with a device that has a full keyboard on it.

      Or what about get the guy holding the SMS device (phone) to type in a specially crafted 10 digit number allowing a two way audio connection between two devices.

      Every person on the planet has a wife, sister or mother than can talk faster than 250+ WPM.

    5. Re:no surprise... by Dachannien · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Who needs a phone? With the experiment they used, all they had to do was shout the message across the room. That technology is hundreds of millions of years old, and predates the human race.

      But anyway, the experiment was designed to entertain and maybe (hopefully!) to educate. Every teenage whippersnapper is out there sending text messages to their friends, but just like they are ignorant of things like who the third U.S. president was or when World War II happened, they are also ignorant about the history of modern communications even though they have made themselves practically dependent upon it.

    6. Re:no surprise... by Itchy+Rich · · Score: 2, Funny

      Want to improve your Karma? Instead of "Post Anonymously", try the "Post Humously" option.

      I tried posting Post Humously. I found my post lacked flavour.

    7. Re:no surprise... by n9hmg · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, the morse guys were amateurs as well. Neither of them has ever had a job in which use of morse code was part of the job.
      The earlier contest, on which this one was based, was held in Australia, and was much more lopsided. The SMSer was a high school girl who did NOT have the world record, and the morse code guys were 90-year-old retired telegraphers. It's been a very long time since anybody got paid to send morse code.
      Chip and Ken are amateur radio operators, K7JA and K6CTW. The tonight show staff just dressed them up like old-time telegraphers.
      VILLAGER #1: Well, we did do the nose.
      BEDEVERE: The nose?
      VILLAGER #1: And the hat, but she is a witch!

      The big advantage they had is not the quality of their paddles nor the lack of time shifting (the twirp wasn't anywhere near done sending when they finished). They could send every letter with their fingers on the same buttons. Sending text from a cell phone is like hunt-and-peck typing. Sending morse code is more like touch-typing. I personally could have beaten Chip and Ken 2:1 or better if I'd been there with a decent keyboard to enter the text, and I'm not a particularly good typist:

      [hiram@flatus hiram]$ time read line
      I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance.

      real 0m6.993s
      user 0m0.000s
      sys 0m0.000s
      [hiram@flatus hiram]$

      Another advantage morse has is that more-common characters have shorter symbols. At the extreme, an E is 1/19 as long as a 0(but only 1/9 as long as a 5 - an artifact of the system for numerics).
      Few of these thoughts are my own. This was discussed to death on ham radio mailing lists, on the air, and in coffee shops nation-wide, 3 weeks ago.

    8. Re:no surprise... by Scrameustache · · Score: 3, Funny
      Who needs a phone? With the experiment they used, all they had to do was shout the message across the room. That technology is hundreds of millions of years old, and predates the human race.

      To be fair, the compression algorithm for this transmission method only allow for two messages:
      "Oh my! I am being bitten!"
      or
      "Boy, am I horny!"

      Off, course, considering they are teens, they pretty much only use the cell phones for variations of message #2, so your point is still valid : )
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  2. Nokia app lets you key SMSes in Morse Code by mocm · · Score: 4, Informative

    Someone already wrote an application for Nokia phones that lets you write your SMS by using Morse code.

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  3. We tried using morse code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    An employee suggested to me that we use this encoding scheme for a few offices here as an evaluation. I was skeptical at first but he explained the benefits of using morse code instead of a more complicated RF protocol. So I decided to let him train 5 offices to see how the employees got on. Besides, our IT manager had been using it in his wireless and it seemed to work fine, why not try it on the client superhets?

    Once he'd got the radios up and running with CW we let the users try it out. It all seemed fine to start with: Morse was a pretty good replacement for SMS and the users could still do their work as normal.

    Alas it did not stay that way. After a few days, I had lost count of the number of complaints received. Users could not find things they were used to (like the encoding for SOS) or tasks they could not perform that they previously could with SMS. The constant harrasment by the FCC became more of a day job than my own. The final straw came when one employee lost several hours work when his wrist suddenly broke and corrupted his message.

    Needless to say, Samual Morse offered no support whatsoever. I made the employee remove the Morse Code from the radios and lets just say he's not with us anymore.

  4. Well, yeah. by msmercenary · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Morse code was created for the purpose of sending text over REALLY low bandwidth. Cell phones were created to talk to people. The idea of entering text with a numeric keypad was a wart they hung on the side of the phone when they realized that a full keyboard wouldn't work.

    Personally, I just don't understand the appeal of text messaging. Maybe that marks me as an old fogey (27), but I just don't need my tendonitis to get any worse, TYVM.

    1. Re:Well, yeah. by JanneM · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm an older fogey (36), and I usually only use messaging. The reason? I'm often using the phone in noisy, bustling environments (city streets, office landscape, robotics lab), and I'm an old fogey - which means my hearing is not what it used to be. Talking on a phone is frankly often fairly difficult, and you disturb other people no matter how low-key you try to be.

      With text messaging I can get or send info no matter how noisy the environment is (try understanding spoken directions while standing on a street corner in Osaka) and whatever info I receive I can refer to over and over again (my memory has never been too hot either).

      I still want the ability to call or receive calls, but my preferred channel clearly is text.

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    2. Re:Well, yeah. by Alioth · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Texting avoids the "HELLO, I'M ON THE TRAIN!" syndrome. It is quiet (silent, apart from the beep when a message comes in) and doesn't disturb people around you. You're hardly an old fogey, I'm 6 years older than you but almost exclusively use text messaging - I really don't like using phones, and my mobile has a full QWERTY keyboard so I'd rather text.

    3. Re:Well, yeah. by LionKimbro · · Score: 2, Informative
      Using SMS is a courtesy. Your listener need only glance at his or her phone to read your message.
    4. Re:Well, yeah. by rsidd · · Score: 2, Insightful
      You keep saying this and people keep answering, but you don't note the answers: I guess that's what makes you an old fogey, not your age.

      I'm 31, and only started using a cell phone at 29. SMS is incredibly useful because: (a) you don't disturb others in a public place, (b) you don't need to strain to hear the other person in a noisy place, (c) if your recipient is busy -- which, in some professions, is very often -- he/she can still see your message and respond later, (d) it costs almost nothing.

      You see, the whole point of a cell phone is you can use it when you're not at home or in your office. But if you're not there, you're probably in a public place and some consideration for others may often be appropriate.

      But no, you're the type who probably bellows your private life into your phone in the presence of a dozen strangers who'd really rather not listen. So you can't imagine why text messaging could appeal to anyone at all.

    5. Re:Well, yeah. by MikeDX · · Score: 2, Informative

      SMS is incredibly useful because: (a) you don't disturb others in a public place

      I beg to differ on this one, if anybody has ever been in a public place and the person sitting fourteen rows away receives an SMS, with an incredibly loud alert tone it is way more annoying than the crazy frog or even the person chatting as with sms they usually get one after another and another continually with the beep beep beeps of the incoming alert "CQ" morse tone (how fitting) on those horrid nokia phones by default - or at least I think thats what it is, I'm no morse coder....

    6. Re:Well, yeah. by Wdomburg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'd consider it less annoying than incredibly loud ring tone (as often as not crappy music) followed by HI JOSIE! OMG DID YOU HOOK UP WITH THAT GUY ROB AT THE HORSE'S ASS PUB LAST NIGHT? OMG HE HAD THE CUTEST BUTT! BLAH BLAH BLAH!.

      [Yes, Mr. Lameness Filter. I *know* that all caps is like YELLING. That's the friggin' point in this case. s/Lameness/Lame/)

  5. Nice, but... by rokzy · · Score: 2, Funny

    ..once you start adding punctuation, formatting and emoticons, how do they fare?

  6. Re:Dupe by Schemat1c · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why should I keep coming back to /. if the news is repeated, slow and bias?

    I come to slashdot not for late breaking, fresh news, but for the discussion that follows. Who really cares if a submission is a dupe? You are not forced to read it, just skip it and go on to the next one. People that feel the need to point out dupes are just as useless as the grammar/spelling nazis. If you really have nothing to add to the discussion and are just going to whine, why post at all?

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  7. Not a true test. by Domini · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Firstly, the morse code they used was the final optimised product. It basically uses huffman-like compression for english only. Thus texting other languages using morse would not be so efficient.

    Secondly they used TAP method which is outdated and inefficient. Predictive text input is much faster. Also, the US is not the big SMS country. It hardly has GSM! More people still use outdated devices like pagers.

    Thirdly they also tested the transport medium. An SMS may be relayed faster via different networks (sometimes immediate) and can be re-read if something was missed (unless ticker-tape is used). This is not fair, as for very long distance morse messages one can have intermediaries as well which would lengthen the process considerably.

    Fourthly, most people cannot send morsecode while receiving it, thus also making asynchronous conversation slower. (And you cannot receive morse from multiple sources sil

    I've recently been to Japan and had the rare privelege seeing a teenage school-girl on a Train sitting and texting on two phones at the same time! Beat that!

    1. Re:Not a true test. by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 2, Informative

      "It hardly has GSM!"

      I'd hardly call 60 million GSM users "hardly having GSM". Not to mention that CDMA2000 also has SMS support.

    2. Re:Not a true test. by Zakabog · · Score: 2, Funny

      Umm ok, I drive my car while sending text messages to my friend's on AIM. I memorized the lettering on my cell phone's number pad, and it has predictive text. So to say hi I just hit 44. Or to say lol I'm busy driving I hit 565#*416#2879. I do this every so often when someone sends me a message on AIM and I'm out driving and it gets forwarded to my phone. I don't take my eyes off the road to answer the message, and I only read the messages when I'm stopped.

    3. Re:Not a true test. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Having the capability and really using it is different. It's not reliable and prevalent since people don't use it. People don't use it because it's not prevalent and reliale.

      SMSes are very reliable. People don't use it because unlike most of Europe, it is cheaper to talk than to send a SMS.

      Here we never had any other system than GSM, and EVERYONE texts. Every major cellphone company has several prime SMS packages. Some people don't even use their phones for voice!

      You may be too young to recall analog cell phones in Europe, but that doesn't mean they didn't exist.

      I've been to the States... Blackberry devices and pagers are more prevalent than SMSers.

      Because Blackberries are much more than SMS. They let you send/receive email from anywhere. The Blackberry email server lets you connect them to your corporate email system. I've used SMS to email gateways, as well as sending/receiving email from Orange, and there's just no comparison.

      Pagers are still around (although the paging market has been shrinking for years) because they are far more reliable than cell phones (even a cell phone in Europe). Radio signals to pagers will go through far more than radio signals to cell phones. There is a reason doctors, police & firefighters still use pagers, even in Europe.

    4. Re:Not a true test. by hb253 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Your stupidity level is tremendoues but not surprising. Drop the damn cell phone (including the useless hands-free options) when you're driving, keep both hands on the steering wheel, and concentrate on driving. I have been involved in so many near misses caused by some idiot playing with his/her cell phone while driving.

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  8. Java Morse Code Translator by plaxion · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can encode, decode and listen to morse here

    Oh, and try setting the speed at 40 wpm before you start thinking it's easy!

  9. Morse code spam by paylett · · Score: 2, Funny
    Spread your message world wide! Minimal transmission fee! No pesky filters to worry about!

    (why do these things always sound less funny once you press preview?)

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  10. Perhaps a Morse code Skype device. by xpeeblix · · Score: 4, Funny

    OMFG, Slashdot's "Lameness filter" just prevented me from posting a comment on this story in morse code. I cry censorship, someone call the ACLU!

    Try it, if you don't believe me.

  11. Re:D-d-d-dupe! by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And Morse Code is particularly stupid next to speech when it comes to speed. I mean why in the world would you want to use Morse Code if you have a medium reliable neough to use speech. I mean look at how much longer it takes to transmit the code as opposed to when he reads the message, and he's reading it at a normal speed. A person could read it much faster and you'd still udnerstand what was said.

    Morse code isn't useful for it's speed, it's useful for it's transmission capabilities. You need only a very simple transmitter, and since it can be done in a binary fashion (just tones and silence, they were using a more advanced dual-tone key which allows for faster transmission) it can be transmitted successfully even with extremely poor signal-noise ratios. You can actually have the signal well below the noise level, and still clearly make out the message.

    If you have an at all reliable means of communication, it becomes rather worthless. Even most untrained persons can type as fast as a good coder, and speech trumps both easily. Morse code remains a useful backup method of communications if all other means are not feasable, but it isn't really something anyone would choose for speed.

  12. Re:incorporated functionality by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2, Interesting
    "dit dit dit - dah dah - dit dit dit" actually.


    But what you may not know is that the really long Morse SMS tone on Nokia phones says "connecting people"

  13. Re:What you say??? by codemangler · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If Morse code is so much better than using text messaging, why doesn't everyone do it?

    Rhetorical question. The answer, obviously, is that it is a pain in the ass to learn and gain any serious encoding/decoding speed.

    It's a lot like typing (which most of us take for granted). Objectively, it is the fastest way to transcribe data. However, it requires quite a bit of practice to get up to a level fast enough to make it better and more useful than normal writing.


    No, it's not the fastest way to send data. For example you can type faster than you can send morse. The reason the morse coders won was because of the tools they used. A morse code key, which is an electrical switch, is optimized for extremely short contacts. It also can be fine-tuned for individual senders. Phone touchpads were originally designed for entering only short phone numbers, so speed was not really an issue. It was more important to prevent the user from dialing a wrong number. So there's a lot more resistance built in to the phone keys.

    The results would have been closer if the morse coders had to use a cell phone to send their code, maybe just pressing the 1 button on and off. I think in that case the texters would have won.

  14. I agree by Ogemaniac · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I live in Japan, and probably send twenty text messages for each call that I make. Though I must admit, the Japanese software seems better than what I remember in the states. The word-completion is usally really clever if I am typing in Japanese. Also, typing in Japanese is intrinsically easier because in general, each kana corresponds to two English letters. I wish people would use this service more in the states, for all of the reasons people have been mentioning. Despite the enormous number of cell phones in Japan relative to the US, you are forced to listen to people yapping away on them far, far less often. This might be my favorite element of Japanese society, I swear.

  15. Re:morse code over skype by shreevatsa · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Ah, you mean like this?
    #define DIT (
    #define DAH )
    #define __DAH ++
    #define DITDAH *
    #define DAHDIT for
    #define DIT_DAH malloc
    #define DAH_DIT gets
    #define _DAHDIT char
    _DAHDIT _DAH_[]="ETIANMSURWDKGOHVFaLaPJBXCYZQb54a3d2f16g7c 8a90l?e'b.s;i,d:"
    ;main DIT DAH{_DAHDIT
    DITDAH _DIT,DITDAH DAH_,DITDAH DIT_,
    DITDAH _DIT_,DITDAH DIT_DAH DIT
    DAH,DITDAH DAH_DIT DIT DAH;DAHDIT
    DIT _DIT=DIT_DAH DIT 81 DAH,DIT_=_DIT
    __DAH;_DIT==DAH_DIT DIT _DIT DAH;__DIT
    DIT'\n'DAH DAH DAHDIT DIT DAH_=_DIT;DITDAH
    DAH_;__DIT DIT DITDAH
    _DIT_?_DAH DIT DITDAH DIT_ DAH:'?'DAH,__DIT
    DIT' 'DAH,DAH_ __DAH DAH DAHDIT DIT
    DITDAH DIT_=2,_DIT_=_DAH_; DITDAH _DIT_&&DIT
    DITDAH _DIT_!=DIT DITDAH DAH_>='a'? DITDAH
    DAH_&223:DITDAH DAH_ DAH DAH; DIT
    DITDAH DIT_ DAH __DAH,_DIT_ __DAH DAH
    DITDAH DIT_+= DIT DITDAH _DIT_>='a'? DITDAH _DIT_-'a':0
    DAH;}_DAH DIT DIT_ DAH{ __DIT DIT
    DIT_>3?_DAH DIT DIT_>>1 DAH:'\0'DAH;return
    DIT_&1?'-':'.';}__DIT DIT DIT_ DAH _DAHDIT
    DIT_;{DIT void DAH write DIT 1,&DIT_,1 DAH;}

    The greatest thing is, this program actually converts what you type to Morse code.
  16. Re:morse code over skype by mikeage · · Score: 2, Informative

    In "spoken" morse, dots are pronounced as DIT (DI- if it's not the final sound in a word), and dashes as DAH.

    This (almost) mimics the way morse would actually sound.

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  17. Re:What you say??? by Hast · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But you need to practice A LOT to keep up your morse skills. I learned it once and now I can't even beep out my name.

    T9 OTOH scales well with ability of operator as the letters are written on the keys. If you forget how to do it just look at the keys and they will help you.

  18. Re:morse code over skype by CableModemSniper · · Score: 2, Funny

    This code has memory leaks.

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  19. Re:What you say??? by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Informative
    SMS on a phone keypad is already a morse code. It just happens to involve somewhere around 10 different keys instead of 2.
    ASCII is an EBCDIC. It just happens to use different codes for the character.

    French is a Hindi. It just happens to use different words for most things.

    An electric oven is a gas oven. It just happens to use electricity instead of gas.

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  20. Let me give you the story on this post... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    "morse code [...] uses huffman-like compression for english only"

    This is called "making it up as you go along"

    "Predictive text input is much faster."

    Actually predictive text input is no faster. See? I can make stuff up too!

    "Also, the US is not the big SMS country."

    Uh...which matters because...uh... our champion SMS users are not as good as "their" champion SMS users? What? Huh?

    "It hardly has GSM!"

    Yes, because SMS over CDMA is so much slower. Because it doesn't use the dixie-helmann-thingy compression that ...uh... the morse code thingy uses.

    "More people still use outdated devices like pagers."

    Yes, which really hurts SMS texting rates!

    "Thirdly they also tested the transport medium."

    And this is important because our networks are slower than the Japanese networks because uh... the dixie-helman-mayonnaise compression that is umbiqitious...uh...pagers used... ummm... and why, we hardly have GSM!

    "and can be re-read if something was missed"

    Yes, because I might've missed something in that SMS message that said "CU L8R, LOL!!!!!"

    "This is not fair, as for very long distance morse messages one can have intermediaries as well which would lengthen the process considerably."

    Well, it might have been fairer but they didn't use the Dixie-Helman...thingy that morse code has for uh...non-English languages.

    "thus also making asynchronous conversation slower"

    Oh hell, just call the other person on the phone, and if they're not there, leave a message. My way is fastest of all.

    "I've recently been to Japan and had the rare privelege seeing a teenage school-girl on a Train sitting and texting on two phones at the same time! Beat that!"

    I was recently watching my daughter use AIM talking to 5 people at a time on AIM.

    I win.

    Oh. She was using that Dixie-Hellman-Mayonaisse thingy you keep whining about.

  21. Re:morse code over skype by sjaskow · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's open source, fix the leak and submit a patch. :)

  22. Re:Bad app: Needs more than 1 button by Phreakiture · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well... A real morse code app would only rely on 1 button, wouldn't it?

    One or two, actually. You can key Morse on a "straight key," which is one single key, or on a "Paddle" or set of "paddles" which is either one horizontal key that can be pushed left or right, or two keys arranged to behave as a single paddle. Pushing the key in one direction causes a string of properly timed dashes, pushing it the other way produces a stream of properly timed dots. This is the set up that was used by the ham operators in the video.

    Still, I would have to say that I would feel completely unsatisfied by the Nokia phone app. It should rely on timing, and timing alone, to identify the spaces. It can be done in the electronic realm, even if it is not known in advance if the bit being sent is a dot or a dash. With the machine knowing whether the operator is sending a dot or a dash should make it a total cakewalk. Further, it should properly recognise the "error" character (........) and use that to undo the last word, rather than using the "C" key to undo the last letter. That would be proper use of Morse code.

    73 DE KC2IDF

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  23. Speed isn't always the primary concern... by Gruneun · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why I prefer SMS over Morse code:
    I don't have to remember any encoding rules.

    Why I prefer phone calls over SMS:
    I don't have to remember how to spell.

    Why I prefer silence over phone calls:
    I don't have to remember to be polite or feign interest.

  24. Ironically, most SMS messages kick off morse code! by Sagarian · · Score: 2, Informative

    that beep pattern you hear from most phones with the ringers on when they get an SMS message is "... -- ..." which is of course, morse code for "SMS"

    Oh the irony!