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Intel Readying Dual-Core Desktop Chip
sunisha.shah4eva writes "CoolTechZone is reporting that Intel is planning on introducing a dual-core Dothan chip for desktop computers. According to the article, Intel has plans to turn the performance table around with AMD. From the article: 'Finally, it looks like Intel has learned from its mistake and secretly prepping a surprise for the rest of the industry. According to the information we received, Intel is currently working on a desktop, dual-core Dothan microprocessor with SSE3 instruction set that Intel plans to launch sometime in the future. Whether the launch will take place this year or in 2006 is currently unknown.'"
...just in time for the Apple switch to Intel products?
I'm still kind of miffed about that but if they run new dual-core chips it might not be so bad.
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I'll say it again, I LOVE competition. Ever since AMD became a threat to Intel, we've seen outrageous processor wars and benchmarking tribunals. I can buy a P4 3 gig processor for about $150 now.
Most likely, Intel will take that performance throne with their "secret". They have a way of doing that (like HT); but, we'll see something better come from AMD. And so the cycle continues...and we all benefit!
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but will it run OS X?
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"that Intel plans to launch sometime in the future"
This just in: AMD has plans to launch their dual core desktop chip sometime in the past, thus beating Intel to the punch yet again.
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best 2 out of 3?
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Sounds like a good idea to me since I have already ruled out current Intel dual core designs because of their outrageous power consumption. AMD Athlon 64's are much better in this department except they are awfully expensive right now. A more economical dual core Dothan design would definitely be something I would be interested in.
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- Apple switched to Intel for the explicit purpose of benefitting from advances like this
- Apple will most likely be using a slightly different architechture than wintel(mobo, bios, firmware, etc), so not every hot new Intel chip will make it into an Apple system.
- Apple will still be offering a limited selection of systems, so they will have to pick and choose what makes it into thier product line
The first systems are more than a year away (not counting the dev system) so everybody take a deep breath.That's what I want.
:(, various Windows flavors, all running on the same box at the same time. Sweet.
... oh, and a super-sized power supply and liquid-metal cooling system to make it all work.
Multiprocessor too. Gotta have more than one CPU.
MacOS, various Linuxes, various non-Apple BSDs, and because I have to
Hmm, what else do I need, a few dozen GB HD per OS, a GB or two of RAM per OS, a core per OS, 10GHz networking, high-end sound and video,
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Communication efficiency and information sharing between the two cores.
On AMD Dual Cores, there is a specific bus for communication between cores and with the memory module, while in Intel types they have to use the main bus.
So intel choice for Netburst dual core lowers the total efficiency (since the cores have to share with the rest of the system, situation akin to regular dual processors) while AMD dual cores have a special bus which is even faster than the regular main bus, lowering latency and increasing communication capacities between the cores, on top of making them compatible with regular mobos.
But one has to remember that the choice Intel made for Netburst's dual core was more than likely done in a hurry, to release DC faster than AMD.
They'll probably design a much more specific processor for their Dothan dual cores.
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Well, as an Apple user let me say this Intel dual core thing, it looks, ah, mighty good. Go.... Intel? Yes. Go Intel!
Man this is going to be a rough transition.
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"...secretly prepping a surprise for the rest of the industry"
uh, hate to burst your bubble, but I got this nagging suspicion that somebody from AMD reads slashdot.
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"I know it makes websites not work."
Tom's Hardware has some interesting benchmarks with a Dothan in a desktop system with a halfway decent memory system.
- 21.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20050525/pentium4
And if you actually looked at the performance for those chips you'd see that the pricing for the dual cores actually favors AMD on a performance basis. The difference is that Intel released their "dual core" chips for the low end, while AMD only released them for their high end chips.
Also you're not comparing the same type of chip. Opteron is AMD's SERVER chipset, which are always more expensive than desktop chipsets.
Yes, you can buy what are called dual core P4s for a third the price of an actual dual-core Opteron, but that's because you get what you are paying for.
Opterons have their own high-speed dedicated bus for core to core communication. Dual core P4s are really two separate P4s on a single chip and use the regular bus for communications (along with memory, i/o, etc.).
The dual core P4 you mentioned is operationally no better than dual P4s (single core).