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63% Of Corporations Plan To Read Outbound Email

John writes "Aviran's place reports that a recent survey of 332 technology decision-makers at large U.S. companies reveals that more than 63% of corporations with 1,000 or more employees either employ or plan to hire workers to read outbound email, due to growing concern over sensitive information leaving the enterprise through email."

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  1. Gentlemen don't read others gentlemen's mail... by rd4tech · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The funny thing is... well, not so much funny as it is disturbing, signing an employment contract.

    Remember that signature on that thick paper you've signed prior getting that high paid tech job? The one saying that everything you think of during working hours is theirs? The one that maybe is saying (in some cases) that everything you think on and off during working hours, while employed or 3 years after also belongs to them?

    Well, it seems to me, and I might be way off here, that thinking up an email by an employee is in fact his company's property and hence, they have all the rights to read it, and it doesn't breaks anyone's right to privacy.

    Can anyone with legal experience enlighten me on this one? Do the bastards have the right to do so, provided that one doesn't sign a document that explicitly states "you can read my email" but instead contains a fine version of "all your bases, off lunch hours, belongs to us?

    1. Re:Gentlemen don't read others gentlemen's mail... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, it seems to me, and I might be way off here, that thinking up an email by an employee is in fact his company's property and hence, they have all the rights to read it, and it doesn't breaks anyone's right to privacy.

      Email is considered company property, but people have gotten a little miffed because work and home tend to mix some. (No worries. It's natural as long as you keep it under control and under wraps.)

      The part that amazes me these days is that people bother to send personal email through their work address when perfectly good webmail clients exist (*cough*gmail*cough*). Yes, your employer can probably see that you're surfing Gmail/Hotmail/Yahoo/Home *nix Server. However, your email is not likely to be captured by their system, and remains private.

      So, why do people still use work for private mail?

    2. Re:Gentlemen don't read others gentlemen's mail... by romcabrera · · Score: 5, Informative

      login using https://gmail.google.com instead of http://gmail.google.com

    3. Re:Gentlemen don't read others gentlemen's mail... by Horrortaxi · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Can anyone with legal experience enlighten me on this one? Do the bastards have the right to do so, provided that one doesn't sign a document that explicitly states "you can read my email" but instead contains a fine version of "all your bases, off lunch hours, belongs to us?

      I've never gotten the "sign here to allow the company to read your email" letter before, but over and over I've gotten the one that says "I understand that there is absolutely no guarantee of privacy when using company computers/networks. Company computers/networks are to be used only for company business. Personal use of company computers/networks is grounds for dismissal." I don't work for a Fortune 500 company, I work for a school district. What kind of trade secrets am I going to leak? 2+2=4? No Child Left Behind is a bad idea? But as anti-big brother as I am I think this is perfectly reasonable. While you're at work they own your ass--and they own the computer and they own the network. They have the right to do whatever they want with their property.

      I was actually a juror on a wrongful termination case about a year ago. The plaintiff said she was fired because she was pregnant, but the defense was ready with all her personal emails she sent from work. Hundreds of them! Racist jokes, bullying/humiliation of coworkers, invitations to happy hour, bids sent to competing vendors (oops!), booking vacations, getting mortgage rate quotes, etc. Then they whipped out the "I understand that my email is not private at work and I can't use it for personal business and if I do I can be fired" document signed by the plaintiff and it was all over. This small company had actually fired a few people for email abuse already.

      They pay you to work. If you send out the occasional personal email they probably won't give you static about it. But if you send so much personal email that they wonder when you have time to work there will be problems. There really shouldn't be any outrage about it.

  2. But..... by ian+rogers · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who do they hire to read the outgoing emails of the people they hired to read outgoing emails?

  3. What a great idea!!! by tacocat · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is so far ahead of it's time I just don't know what to say...

    I can't send more than maybe one or two MB of data through my email.

    But I can easily shove a 1GB USB stick up my ass and walk out past the guards.

    1. Re:What a great idea!!! by 3770 · · Score: 5, Funny


      Were you going to put any data on that USB stick before you do that or were you just planning on doing it for fun?

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    2. Re:What a great idea!!! by Mr2001 · · Score: 5, Funny

      1GB? That's nothing. I bet Mr. Goatse could sneak a whole file server out of his office.

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    3. Re:What a great idea!!! by mojo17 · · Score: 5, Funny
      1GB? That's nothing. I bet Mr. Goatse could sneak a whole file server out of his office.
      Out of his office and into his orifice.
  4. My company scans all email for buzzwords by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For example if I include the name of one of my company's products plus "bug"/"flaw"/"crash" then I can expect a follow-up scolding from HR. (I found this out the hard way) Course that's cake compared to the other spying and practices that go on.

  5. Yes nasty, here's an email we intercepted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    From: steve@apple.com
    To: paul@intel.com
    Subject: Execute Order 66

    Dear Paul,
    let's do it,

    signed

    Steve

  6. I like my job! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Really. This wouldn't affect me in any way, because I never use work time for personal business, and I like my boss! He's so clever and intelligent.

  7. Easily circumvented. by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Funny
    It's not hard to hide your email information leaks from snoops, like so:

    2004 Request for temperature compensation aggregate mixtures: Aggregate mixtures are 3% above nominal for the first period, requiring a 8% reduction in admix composition between junction intervals. All temperature compensation is within target limits for the period ending 3/7. Urgent sell all your stock asap; the SouthEast deal has totally fallen through, we've lost all licensing rights and we're going to post a huge loss and massive layoffs next quarter, when this goes public on Thursday our price is going to fall off a cliff. Secondary filtering activity has increased by 27% this period, followed by tertiary filtering increases of 5%. Verification requested.
  8. Change in original plan!!! by bayankaran · · Score: 5, Funny

    A recent survey of 332 technology decision-makers at large u.s. companies reveals a growing concern over sensitive information leaving the enterprise through email and through USB memory sticks hidden in their employees ass.

    In its 2005 study on outbound email security and content issues, email security vendor and ass searching expert Proofpoint found that more than 63% of corporations with 1,000 or more employees either employ or plan to hire workers to read outbound email and search their employees ass when they arrive and leave from work.

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  9. Re:Good luck reading secure webmail by Anonymous+Cowdog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    >What's to stop employees from just logging into a private webmail account over HTTPS and sending information out that way?

    Keystroke logging.

    So if you're an employee who values privacy and wants to send a bit of private personal email once in a while on your personal web mail account (say, gmail), the only way to retain that privacy is to either do all that mail through a cell phone, or install an OS that the IT people don't have a keystroke logger for. Where I work all our computers have the corporate spyware installed from day one. To have privacy, you have to find some obscure Unix distro (Red Hat isn't obscure enough; they have that covered too) and use it.

  10. In related news, 20% of managers by TheNucleon · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...will begin reading their incoming e-mail.

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  11. May as well enjoy the ride by MooseByte · · Score: 5, Funny

    "you've no more expectation of privacy than you do on a CB channel."

    Might as well go all PsyOps on their corporate asses then.

    Have some outside dummy accounts you can send email to. Send messages full of glowing comments re: boss & company, and others that refer to a mysterious dark conspiracy that haunts your past. Something involving genetic experimentation, a mad European scientist, and a mysterious Brazilian clinic.

    Then the week before you quit, start sending mysterious messages encoded in pig-Latin.

    "The owls-nay are not as they eem-say."