Holy Men in Tights! Academic Superhero Conference

Malfourmed writes "The University of Melbourne's Cinema Studies Program, School of Art History, Cinema, Classics & Archaeology is hosting a four day conference (and fancy dress ball and movie programme) on superhoeroes and supervillains. The interdisciplinary conference will address the varying roles, identities, and social functions that these superheroes serve. Topics include censorship; industry and franchise differentiation (eg DC vs Marvel); mythology; the female superhero ("It has been a very much male-centred universe," co-convener Saige Walton said. "They need some more chicks."); ethnicity, class and race; diverse media formats (cinema, comics, computer games, television) ; the resurgence in the cult of superpowers in recent cinema; super-auteurs (eg Frank Miller, Alan Moore, Tezuka Osamu, Grant Morrison); fan culture; the science and physics of the superhero; ancient superheroes; and the 'hero' who isn't 'super'."

Comments

Women in comic books

[Dancin_Santa]

What always makes me laugh is how otakus try to justify their objectification of women in comics as somehow empowering to women. By cladding the female characters in skin-tight suits that leave nothing to the imagination and giving them powers, they are somehow less objectified than you'd assume at first glance. Oh no, they are totally powerful, according to the geeks.

Of course, at no point are they ever in charge, in normal clothes, homely, or out of the control of some male superhero.

I've jacked off to Rogue in her undies many times, so I ought to know a thing or two about objectifying comic book women. That doesn't excuse the industry for its blatant subjection of women, though, it only reinforces the stereotype of geeks as misogynists.

Re:Women in comic books

[Master of Transhuman]

You haven't read many comics lately, have you?

The women in X-Men and a number of other comics from Marvel and others are not exactly sex slaves (unless you've read the X-rated X-Men comic some knockoff did). Rogue might be a bit stereotyped, but Storm faced down Wolverine several times with authority - and Logan is about as macho a superhero as it gets.

Besides, this is anti-male feminist bullshit. Every woman (except maybe Andrea Dworkin, who's a total loss anyway) wants to be a sex goddess and every man wants to be a sex god. And the psychology behind this goes a lot deeper than the surface motivations attributed to either sex by the feminists (or by male misogynists). Without some comprehension of human and cultural evolution and primate neuroscience anything said about this is likely to be bullshit.

Can I say that?

[NitsujTPU]

"It has been a very much male-centred universe," co-convener Saige Walton said. "They need some more chicks."

Interestingly, a male would lose some edge saying that.

I salute you Saige, and your message. I just wish that wording the message the same, in my shoes, as a man, wouldn't get me an unsavory label.

Re:Why

[packeteer]

Making science into entertainment has ruined it for me to.

Batman is the best superhero AND comic.

[Anonymous Coward]

Bruce Wayne is a normal guy that everybody can relate to. He has no special powers to rely on; only the technology that his wealth affords him. He keeps in shape through rigorous training and is skilled in martial arts. He is a self-made superhero. None of that bullshit radioactive nonsense (what superheor ISN'T brought into existence by some type of radioactivity?). Gotham is a dark, lonely, unforgiving place. I think the animated series captured it the best, although the Dark Knight graphic novel was pretty good. Batman embodies what a superhero should be, and yet he doesn't play by the rules. He wasn't "gifted" or "chosen"; he took it upon himself to make a difference in a cruel world, and to strike back and get revenge. Batman is the best superhero because he is the most human.

Re:Batman is the best superhero AND comic.

[Master of Transhuman]

Wolverine wasn't irradiated, and except for the Adamantium in his bones, and his mutant healing power, and highly developed senses, he's probably one of the more "human" superheroes.

I can't count Daredevil since he was irradiated - although later it was revealed that actually had nothing to do with his supersenses.

There are probably hundreds of non-irradiated superheroes, and probably hundreds of strictly human ones as well.

But you're probably right that Batman was the FIRST (or nearly so) of the strictly human ones (if you don't count myths and legends, but only comics.)

But to pick a superhero because he is most human is to underestimate the importance of the genre. The genre is nothing more than a modern manifestation of the human desire for a Transhuman existence. Therefore it is necessary that even the most human of superheroes be so superior to the average human (even Captain America can press 800 lbs which very few real humans can do) that they stand as a symbol of divinity. Even your Batman is not strictly human, both because of his technology and because of his vast experience - and that apparent inhuman nature is something he specifically trades on to intimidate his enemies.

OTOH, Superman, although a godlike entity, is represented in the comics as almost absurdly human, even to the point of being absurdly AMERICAN. I haven't read the stories in recent years, so they may have changed him, but I doubt it. His superpowers still make him a divinity, but DC went to great lengths to make him acceptable to humans.

Marvel did the same thing with their "teenage-angst superheroes" like Spiderman - which is why I never was as attracted to Spiderman as I was many other Marvel characters. Fortunately, they also provided seriously powerful entities as well - the success of the character Thanos - who is truly a demi-god and has actually BEEN a genuine divinity at least twice - and has been converted from a pure villain to an ambiguous character - is an example.

Even many of the Marvel supervillains have been altered to make them almost superheroes - Doctor Doom (my main man!) and Magneto, as well as Thanos, are examples. These characters tend to exaggerate human failings to a degree that makes them almost divine - but still understandable to humans, just like the gods of human myth such as Zeus or Odin (not to forget that even those gods are part of the Marvel pantheon.)

Superheroes and supervillains are about being "super" - which means more than human. And that is the bottom line to the literary genre.

Female Writers?

[CleverNickedName]

"It has been a very much male-centred universe," co-convener Saige Walton said.

Now that she mentions it, I can't think of any female comic writers. Please, could someone recomend a few?

Re:Female Writers?

[kahei]

Rumiko Takahashi.

But in the US and Europe, there appear to be no good female comic writers.

I think this is because if a man wants to be a cartoonist, he learns to draw and design and lay out panels, while if a woman wants to be a cartoonist she networks with her art college freinds and produces a strip in which stick figures talk about Iraq and Men.

I must note that the above theory is based on a single visit to Forbidden Planet and there may be some cases it doesn't address :)

Re:you know it is late...

[pimpsoftcom]

You must not be a good geek. All the 'good' geeks I know are codeing this time of night. Its prime hacking time. :P

Re:For you maybe

[hey!]

as long as you realise that you are writing something with no value beyond limited appeal light entertainment, and are okay with my giggling at your work and the sort of mind that mind produce it.

Giggle? Oh, why not, you may as well join right in. So long as you don't mind being in line behind me.

While you're queueing, perhaps you might be interested in a small tract on a new religion I am promoting. It's tenets are as follows:

• Any non-trivial system of beliefs is bound to be riddled with absurdities.
  
• So a person who must take himself seriously at all times is either a simpleton or morbidly attached to his ignorance.
  
• We make an exception for Professor Tolkien, whose obsessions were so manifestly and magnificently ridiculous he clearly must be a saint.
  
• Nobody laughs at a joke they don't understand.
  
• So a person who laughs at himself is on the path to enlightenment.
  
• Nobody can truly love another unless he truly knows the other. Nobody can truly know another without knowing the full measure of their absurdity.
  
• Therefore verily I say unto you that Love is Absurdity.
  
• And God is love.
  
• Ergo God is Absurdity, and Absurdity, God.
  

I think we're doing well in the dogma department, but coming up with suitable religious trinkets and ritutals is a bit of a challenge. After all, crossing the line from natural absurdity to feigned and self-conscious absurdity is a subtle and blasphemous form of Hubris. However, if we can get past that I think we may have a hit, at least among those who can't find a comfortable "religious home" among the mainline or evangelical denominations.

Batman DOES have a special power!

[zeus_tfc]

I have repeatedly said that the whole "Batman is a normal joe without superpowers" thing is BS. Batman DOES have powers. He has the absolute best powers a person can have! THE POWERS OF UNLIMITED FUNDING!

Do you want to drop of the face of the earth and learn with the best martial arts masters? No problem, the trust fund will keep up the house and pay the help as you vacation in Asia.

Do you want a nifty belt that has time warping effects so you can pull an elephant out of your pocket? No problem, you can pay for the design, developement and implimentation.

Do you want a jet that has super-stealth technology that not even the military has? Not a problem, you own a military research company.

Do you want an orbital weapons platform complete with dormitory for thousands of superheros? No worries, it's not even a drop in the bucket for your R&D budget.

Yeah, Batman has no special powers. Sure he doesn't.

no no no

[BitterAndDrunk]

The .7 ratio is a ratio that is conducive to survival of the mother and fetus in child-birth. It's birth-cavity stuff, not just "they're hot".

If the mother survives and will reproduce again, that is certainly a factor of evolution. More offspring == better survival chances for the species.