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Calculator Flaw Forces Recall in Virginia

Jivecat writes "CNN is reporting that TI is recalling 11,000 calculators issued to students in Virginia because of a flaw that would give them an unfair advantage on standardized tests. A 12-year-old discovered that by pressing two keys at once, the calculators will convert decimals to fractions. The tests require the students to know how to do this with pencil-and-paper." So the calculator is being recalled because it's not crippled enough. Maybe it's a good time to question the wisdom of issuing expensive electronics to students in the first place, though I'm sure the calculator companies would rather you didn't.

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  1. Uh, isn't it TI by captainbeardo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Am I blind or does it say Texas Instruments, not HP?

  2. log books by Audent · · Score: 5, Funny

    I remember (back in the day - mid 80s) asking a teacher why we weren't allowed to use calcluators at all. He replied that this was to train our minds so we could do these things ourselves without aid.

    Someone else asked "So WTF is with these log books?". He got detention.

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  3. Hmm by dreamchaser · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All I got when I first clicked on this was 'Nothing to see here. Move along'. Something about that just doesn't [B]add[/B] up.

    Seriously though, I've been against giving calculators to grade school kids for a long time. It's all part of the dumbing down of our society. Let them learn how to do math properly, [I]then[/I] teach them how to use a calculator when they start studying higher maths that actually need one.

    1. Re:Hmm by fireboy1919 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I feel the same way with web development. Let them lean html and then teach them about bbcode.

      If you just give them bbcode right from the beginning, they'll think they can just always use that, and not preview their posts.

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    2. Re:Hmm by giminy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Same thing about spelling. Let them learn to spell, then teach them about spellcheck.

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    3. Re:Hmm by DaveJay · · Score: 5, Funny

      In soviet russia, all of the above things are done in the reverse order.

    4. Re:Hmm by WilliamSChips · · Score: 5, Funny

      And in Korea, only old people do those things.

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  4. ruined by pintomp3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    that fat fingered 12 yr old should have kept his mouth shut. ruined for anyone else who knew but was smart enough to keep it to themself. seriously though, who is buying calculators for kids learning basic math? pretty soon, the answer to all math problems will be "press the #s on the phone that dail your favorite geek". at least that's what my fiance does.

  5. And I suppose they will give them back!? by StressGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously, what motivation is there to return a device in exchange for one with less functionality? How do they expect this "recall" to work? Would any of you send your calculator back?

    just asking

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  6. Re:Next To Go: '+' Sign by spizkapa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's much easier to adopt a system like in some Universities in Britain where the examinations office provide standard calculators for all students who need to use one in their exam. This way, the exam setter can make sure noone gets an unfair advantage.

  7. No, it's right. by fireboy1919 · · Score: 5, Funny

    On a similar note, Microsoft will be recalling 3 billion instances of RedHat from the market. Apparently all you have to install it, and the secret "doesn't crash or get hacked" function starts working, giving administrators an unfair advantage over other administrators.

    It is suspected that Microsoft may make other recalls in light of this recent events, including the Playstation 2, Google's search engine, and the United States government.

    In other news, any of you that have hot girlfriends (yeah...you're probably not real, but I can pretend) will have to hand them over. I'm recalling them.

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  8. This brings back memories by Raul654 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In my undergraduate electromagnetics class, the professor was adamant that he would never allow calculators on his exams, but he'd generiously allow anyone to use a slide rule (assuming we could find them and learn how to operate them).

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  9. It's not really about the math. by kiddailey · · Score: 5, Insightful


    This line of thinking is exactly why cashiers can't give correct change when the power goes out, the network is down, or you give them odd change so you get rid of change and get whole dollars back.

    Setting the bar as low as you suggest begs the question: Why teach anything that you can use a calculator for?

    IMO, the point isn't even the math. It's about teaching someone the basics of thinking through a problem without pulling the answer from somewhere.

    <soapbox>We're already teaching our kids that there are no losers. Giving them the lesson that you don't have to understand and solve simple problems is just another step towards a society of people who, in Real Life®, find themselves facing problems without the help of a cheat sheet and simply wait for someone else to solve them (which eventually will stop happening).</soapbox>

  10. Re:Next To Go: '+' Sign by jfern · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Another way to think of it:
    x = 0.4523232323...
    100x = 45.232323232323...
    99x = 44.78

    9900x = 4478
    x = 4478/9900