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Japan Displays Prototype Robot Suit

anaesthetica writes "A project at Tsukuba University has produced a battery-powered robot suit designed to aid the wearer in strength-related tasks, like lifting heavy objects. The suit also has the capability of propelling itself, which is potentially useful for helping the handicapped or elderly walk. The optimistic professor who lead the project stated, 'Humans may be able to mutate into supermen in the near future.'"

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  1. Obviously... by soupdevil · · Score: 5, Funny

    This optimistic inventor is not familiar with The Wrong Trousers.

    1. Re:Obviously... by nsaneinside · · Score: 3, Informative

      For those who aren't familiar with it either, this is a Wallace and Gromit movie.

  2. First Generation Technology... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think I'll wait until they come out with the Ultraman power suit model.

  3. I dunno... by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Funny

    If that guy can't pick up that small Japanese woman anyway, then that suite better do a lot of other stuff, too.

    But since she's not that much of a payload, the pictures might as well be of a guy wearing a Stormtrooper costume doing deep knee bends.

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    1. Re:I dunno... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 5, Funny

      If that guy can't pick up that small Japanese woman anyway, then that suite better do a lot of other stuff, too.

      Have you not seen Japanese anime before? The dorky guy always gets his butt kicked by the schoolgirls. The dorky guy needs a power suit to protect himself when tangling with the opposite sex.

  4. scary by Eric+Smith · · Score: 5, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our new geriatric and quadriplegic robot-suit overlords.

  5. Mod Parent (-1, Lack of Reading Comprehension) by merreborn · · Score: 4, Informative

    It works by enhancing muscle movements. You move a muscle a little, the exoskeleton translates that into a much larger movement. Handicapped people (paras, quads) do not have muscle control in their handicapped limbs, so this exoskeleton can't help them.

    FTA:

    The 15-kilogram (33-pound) battery-powered suit, code-named HAL-5, detects muscle movements through electrical-signal flows on the skin surface and then amplifies them. It can also move on its own accord, enabling it to help elderly or handicapped people walk, developers said.

    Thanks for playing.

  6. Be careful, though. by Eric+Smith · · Score: 4, Funny

    Make sure the inhibitor chip is well-protected.

  7. Fogeys in Robot suits by sssmashy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Japan has seen a growing market for technology geared toward the elderly, who are making up an increasing chunk of the population as fewer younger Japanese choose to start families.

    A government report last week showed that pensioners made up a record 19.5 percent of the country's population in 2004 and that the ratio will grow rapidly, surpassing 35 percent in 2050.

    Did anyone else shudder at the image of senior citizens ambling down the street in robot suits? Just imagine the damage potential.

  8. Bubblegum Crisis? by kusanagi374 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That sounded to me pretty much just like the kind of hardsuits that the Knight Sabers wore in Bubblegum Crisis. You'll know what I'm talking about if you've watched the anime.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubblegum_Crisis

    1. Re:Bubblegum Crisis? by Kyusaku+Natsume · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Indeed, even parts of the real hardsuit looks like they were designed by Kenichi Sonoda (The character designer/mecha designer of Bubblegum Crisis). Maybe the engineers got the inspiration from Bubblegum Crisis itself.

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  9. It Should Be Popular.... by Steve+B · · Score: 4, Funny

    It demonstrably helps the wearer pick up women.

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  10. Finally by MrNonchalant · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now I can be stronger and look more like a dork at the same time! Woohoo! Booyah.

    On a related note, check out the Japanese booth babes on the slide show.

    (Just kidding honey, if you're reading this.)

  11. Semi-useful by cavemanf16 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But this isn't going to be intuitive enough for many tasks I think. What we need is something similar to the "power suit" in Aliens, but without having it so directly attached to the wearer of the suit. In other words, my muscular motions should be interpreted within microseconds and the suit responds accordingly. To me it would only feel natural if walking around in a 2-ton suit of metal parts felt exactly the same as walking around in 2-pounds worth of clothing.

  12. Lift "heavy loads" by Ghostgate · · Score: 5, Funny

    I like the picture caption that says the robot suit will help you lift "heavy loads", while the picture shows the guy carrying a woman. I'm sure she will be thrilled to find herself described in such a way. ;)

  13. The tide is turning... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...a whole new chapter in the jocks vs. nerds war.

  14. Supermen? by ThatsNotFunny · · Score: 5, Funny

    Humans may be able to mutate into supermen in the near future

    Ironicly, I just got Viagra Spam that used that exact same phrasing...

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  15. Handicapped people don't have those signals by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Unless it's tapping directly into their brains (which it isn't), those signals aren't getting transmitted to the point where handicapped people will be allowed to walk.

    I suppose if you expanded the group of "handicapped" to include those suffering from polio and other diseases that result muscular dystrophy, then I can see this argued, but paraplegics and quadraplegics are not going to be helped, despite the claims of the article.

    And I'll take -1 Offtopic again for saying so.

    1. Re:Handicapped people don't have those signals by John+Hasler · · Score: 3, Insightful

      > I suppose if you expanded the group of
      > "handicapped" to include those suffering from
      > polio and other diseases that result muscular
      > dystrophy...

      It's strange definition of 'handicapped' that excludes those people.

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    2. Re:Handicapped people don't have those signals by Adrilla · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's hardly the handicapped person walking, then. Perhaps carried is a better word. Even motiled maybe a better word.

      Walking, it ain't.


      Semantics. Clearly they wouldn't be walking in the classic sense of the word, but they'd be repeating the same action, bipedal movement. They just wouldn't be triggering the movement with their own legs, but via another source. I assure you that everyone doing it will refer to it as 'walking' as opposed to "being carried" or "motiled". People want to focus on what they can do, not what they can't, so they'll want to use the most positive term, which in this case would be, walking.

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  16. Wait till you see what happens.. by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... when you put five of these together!!

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  17. Re:Using this technology for warfare. by westlake · · Score: 4, Funny
    Something like this could come in very handy when struggling against freedom fighters who employ roadside explosives and other such guerilla tactics

    the combat environment is more complex and demanding than the loading dock and you won't find power-ups hidden behind every crate.

  18. good way to lose a hand... by saleenS281 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I see that there are no gloves for this suit. So... in theory, you have arms that can lift 800lbs, with hands and fingers that will tear off your body at ~500lbs (assuming it's fragile little thing like that guy).

    Remind me again why you would want to be able to have superhuman strength when all it's going to do is cause you to smash a body part if not amputate yourself by accident.

  19. Holy crap! by ninja_assault_kitten · · Score: 4, Funny

    He actually had the strength to lift an asian woman!

  20. Re:I'll take two... by HermanAB · · Score: 3, Funny

    There is an easier way - divorce - the wife will keep the house and all the crap and you can just walk to your new pad...

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  21. Well, that's the WHOLE point by Moraelin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "How? The only things I can think of that help against such guerilla tactics are good armor and staying alert. Anyhow, who needs super strength when you have good ol' firepower?"

    Which is exactly why and what for: to enable soldiers to carry more armour and dish out more firepower.

    Don't think for a moment that military applications of super-strength will mean Superman-style punching villains in the face. It won't. Ever.

    However a major topic throughough the last century has been the weight of ammo and equipment a soldier has to carry. It's a real issue. That's one of the reasons (among other factors) why we've moved to smaller calibres.

    Put some powered armour on those soldiers and suddenly they can carry a lot more heavy weaponry and ammo.

    Individual armour has also been discarded precisely because of weight considerations: you _could_ make a breastplate that could stop a rifle round, but it was impractically heavy.

    Now think the other way around: if you have an armoured exo-skeleton, you can carry enough armour at least over the vital organs to stop even a 7.62mm round or shrapnel from hand grenades and pipe bombs. _And_ this time it's without a mobility penalty.

    You've just made life harder for the enemy soldiers, because now they need to lug around bigger weaponry to take you out, which limits _their_ mobility.

    But perhaps more importantly, and this is really what makes it a wet dream for the military is: enabling soldiers to carry more electronics and a sattellite connection. Giving at least one soldier per squad enough electronics to know exactly where the enemy is, what's happening, where is the squad needed, what should they avoid, etc, is something that can give a _huge_ advantage.

    Nations have been defeated before because basically their chain of command didn't react fast enough. E.g., that's why large armies like those of France or Poland crumbled in the face of Blitzkrieg in WW2. They just weren't prepared to react at that speed.

    Or the USSR in WW2 was massively handicapped by their lack of radios on their tanks.

    Now picture giving each squad a direct link to their officers _all_ the time. Bidirectional. You can know _exactly_ what's happening at each point, in real time, and the soldiers can know exactly what's expected of them. You can instantly see when your troops are being pinned and flanked, and how, and you can tell them exactly how to counter it. Better yet they too can see a bigger picture and react in a more intelligent manner.

    It's something that can really make or break a battle.

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    1. Re:Well, that's the WHOLE point by Bender0x7D1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not to nitpick... well, OK, I am nitpicking...

      First, it isn't so much about the weight that someone needs to carry to handle these weapons, it is the recoil. The reason a .50 cal machine gun wasn't mounted on standard Jeeps was they caused them to tip over when fired sideways. Only the HMMWV, (Humvee), can get away with it because of their wider wheel base. Also, way too much ammunition is wasted uselessly. If you don't shoot unless you can see what you are aiming at, you don't need 10,000 rounds for your M-16. This is why they took away the "automatic" setting on the M-16 after Vietnam. Shooting more bullets LOWERED the chance of a hit. Not just per round, but overall. Finally, if you can hit someone with a 5.56mm round, they are going to be dead or very injured. A 7.62 round or even a .50 caliber round isn't required.

      More electronics = better chance of detection.
      Infantry is supposed to be invisible. That's why they put all that fancy makeup on their faces - so they blend in. If they radiate a lot in the EM spectrum, someone is going to detect it and drop a few white phosphorus artillery rounds on them. Also, (as someone else pointed out earlier), there aren't power-ups behind every tree, and batteries weigh a LOT. Infantry is also great because they don't need much in the way of logistics. They can walk out with a heavy pack and be fine for 2 weeks. They might come back tired, dirty and hungry, but they don't need a fuel truck every 2 days to keep moving.

      I agree with you that situational awareness is incredibly important, and that the best plans fall apart upon enemy contact. However, there is also a thing called information overload. If a squad leader is worried about what the rest of the platoon is doing, they aren't focused on what their squad is doing. If they are paying attention to what the individual squad members are doing, they aren't using their fire team leaders. It is a delicate balancing act. Too much info can mean the important details are missed. Not enough info can also hurt.

      Personally, I think powered armor of some sort is a great idea for a Military Operations in Urban Terrain (MOUT) environment. Since there is fighting house-to-house and block-to-block, the logistics are much simpler. Also, with heavier armor, a "standard" bullet can be ignored. BTW - There is body armor out there that will stop a 7.62mm round from an AK-74 at close range (less than 10 meters), and they are pretty heavy, but not when compared to a full load on an infantryman. The real risk is keeping the wearer cool enough since no air can circulate around the torso. When considering ambient temperature during training exercises, the presence of a standard flak jacket is considered to be a +15 degree fahrenheit modifier.

      For those who care, I was in the US Marine infantry for 4 years, as a rifleman and as a member of their Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team. I graduated from the Marine Security Forces school and from the Designated Marksman School (similar to a SWAT team sniper) and I graduated 3rd in my class at the Advanced Infantry School at Camp Pendelton. While I don't think I am an expert in all things military, or even infantry combat, I think I know what I am talking about.

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