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Windows to Have Better CLI

MickyJ writes "The command line interface to the Windows Server OS will be changed to the new Monad Shell (MSH), in a phased implementation to take place over the next three to five years. 'It will exceed what has been delivered in Linux and Unix for many years', so says Bob Muglia, a Senior VP at Microsoft." More from the Tom's Hardware article: "The language in Muglia's comment offers the first clear indication that WMI may be yet one more component being left behind, as Microsoft moves away from portions of Windows architecture that have historically been vulnerable to malicious attack."

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  1. Balls? by Grave_Rose · · Score: 5, Funny

    Unix have no Monads.

    Gr@ve_Rose

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    1. Re:Balls? by DenDave · · Score: 4, Funny

      And if they did, it would be GPL and probably be called....

      Yep.. gonads...

      GNU/Gonads...

      gonads.org??

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    2. Re:Balls? by TheoMurpse · · Score: 2, Funny

      GONADS:
      GONADS Ovaries Nads Are Different Sexualorgans

    3. Re:Balls? by Greg_D · · Score: 2, Funny

      Better to call it gonads than gnonads, I guess.

  2. Way to go! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "The language in Muglia's comment offers the first clear indication that WMI may be yet one more component being left behind, as Microsoft moves away from portions of Windows architecture that have historically been vulnerable to malicious attack."

    1. Write complex management interface
    2. Shore up security holes over many years of use and testing
    3. Ditch for new immature code
    4. ?
    5. Profit!

    If they're ditching WMI it *won't* be for security reasons.

  3. Monad? Rather than... by dyfet · · Score: 5, Funny
    Because they couldnt get a full pair? I found the implications of the name too humorous to pass commenting on...

  4. Next Slashdot Headline by sammykrupa · · Score: 5, Funny

    Next Headline on Slashdot:

    Microsoft Pushes Back Longhorn Until 2008 Over New CLI and Changing of "My"

    1. Re:Next Slashdot Headline by justforaday · · Score: 5, Funny

      I just really hope there will be an icon on the Start menu labeled "My Command Prompt"

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    2. Re:Next Slashdot Headline by wild_berry · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't believe you. It's not been confirmed by Netcraft.

  5. vaporware by mattdm · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bah:

    "...will exceed what has been delivered in Linux and Unix for many years. It will take three to five years to fully develop and deliver."

    Somehow I'm not too worried.

  6. So Apple IS faster.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    They change their entire platforms over 2 years, and MS will spend 3-5 years changing the default shell? :p

  7. Windows already has an excellent CLI by Weaselmancer · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...you just gotta go download it from here.

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    rediculous.
    1. Re:Windows already has an excellent CLI by Yuioup · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah but the problem with Cygwin is that it's Open Source...

      Y

  8. I refuse to use it! by Roofus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Unless I can get transparent terminals. That is what really holds back MS in the server market. I mean, how useful is a shell unless you can see through it?

    1. Re:I refuse to use it! by akzeac · · Score: 3, Funny

      True transparent terminals? I'm still waiting for those in Linux!

    2. Re:I refuse to use it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      >Unless I can get transparent terminals. That is what really holds back MS in the server market. I mean, how useful is a shell unless you can see through it?

      C-Shell perhaps. . . . . (See Shell)

      (I'll get me coat)

    3. Re:I refuse to use it! by jonatha · · Score: 2, Funny

      Still waiting? Why?

      I've got an infinite number of transparent terminals up on the desktop already. Each time I start one I can't find the damn close icon to shut it down...

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  9. I've already got one, you see...? by rrognlie · · Score: 2, Funny

    And it's vera nice!

    Can you say bash from cygwin?!? thought you could

  10. Re:Monad .. Gonad by SonicBurst · · Score: 1, Funny

    Well, to me, MoSH sounds best, but hey, I'm just a metal head.

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  11. MS-DOS is back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Is Microsoft going to release MS-DOS v8? I thought they claim Windows does not run over DOS since win95 :-)

  12. Re:Monad .. Gonad by dsginter · · Score: 2, Funny

    Also, who here believes MSH actually stands for Microsoft Shell?

    Who cares? MSH will be pronounced as "mash" and this will develop a related song for sysadmins to sing on Haloween:

    I was working in the lab late one night
    When my eyes beheld an eerie sight
    For my server from his slab began to rise
    And suddenly to my surprise

    He did the MSH
    He did the Microsoft MSH
    The Microsoft MSH
    It was a server smash
    He did the MSH
    It caught on in a flash
    He did the MSH
    He did the Microsoft MSH


    Catchy, no?

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  13. Re:Better late than .... by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is interesting that they are now trying to implement a command line competitive with BASH....what year is this again?

    The year is 1973. Apple Computations Inc. have just announced that they are switching to the cutting-edge Zilog Z80 architecture for their range of low-cost pocket calculators; Sony Industrial Consumer Electronics are making use of an innovative new Integrated Circuit for their Alpha-Max-3 video system which contains at least five separate transistors; the Duke Nukem Forever board-game has been given a favourable reception at the Entertaining Entertainment Exposition at the Crystal Palace, London, and now Micro-Soft-Ware are designing their new, BASIC-derived timesharing shell for competing against the burgeoning MULTICS.

    Well, you did ask...

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  14. Re:Let the jokes begin! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Uh... don't you mean

    sed 's/m/g'

    Thought so ;)

  15. Re:Monad .. Gonad by DenDave · · Score: 2, Funny

    Geesh.. I was thinking the other mash.. Through early morning fog I see visions of the things to be the pains that are withheld for me I realize and I can see... [chorus]: That Microsoft is clueless They bring on many changes and I can take or leave it if I please. I try to find a way to make all our systems relate without that ever-present slate but now I know that it's too late, and... [Chorus] The unix shell is hard to play I'm gonna learn it anyway The Linux card I'll someday lay so this is all I have to say. [Chorus] The only way to win is cheat And lay it down before I'm beat and to another give my seat for that's the only painless feat. [Chorus] MASH The sword of time will pierce our shells It doesn't work when it begins But as it works its way on in The pain grows stronger...watch it grin, but... [Chorus] A brave man once requested me to answer questions that are key 'can you fix my computer please' and I replied 'oh why ask me?' 'Cause Microsoft is clueless They bring on many changes and I can take or leave it if I please. ...and you can do the same thing if you choose.

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  16. Here's a screenshot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    C:\> winword.exe
    .___
    // \
    ||@@|
    || ||
    |\_||
    \__/
    _||_

    It looks like you're trying to run a program. Would you like me to start WINWORD.EXE? [Y/N]
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    (courtesy of mopslik. Original post.
  17. Re:Monad .. Gonad by jedidiah · · Score: 2, Funny

    The far more appropos MASH reference would be the song "suicide is painless".

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  18. Re:It's about time by ScytheBlade1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    When it stops looking like DOS,

    DOS:
    cd C:\PROGRA~1
    2k+ cmd.exe:
    cd C:\Program Files

    smelling like DOS,

    Which is why you no longer have a true DOS enviroment... in case you haven't noticed, 2000 on up no longer uses DOS as it's initial bootloader. It's gone, and it's been gone for a bit.

    and quacking like DOS.

    Can't help you there, I'm still getting this weird error about not finding '/dev/hda' in this script I made... it doesn't seem to like "echo 000000000000 > /dev/{h,s}d{a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s, t,u,v,w,x,y,z}". Oh well, if by "quacks" you mean "errors", yeah, it's still the same.

    In literally every aspect, though, DOS has been gone for a very, very long time.

  19. Re:It's about time by Pollardito · · Score: 2, Funny

    clearly they're spending the extra time and energy choosing the perfect font

  20. Re:Better late than .... by lpp · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sounds like Paranoia, the RPG.

    This requires RED security clearance.

    What is RED security clearance and how do I get it?

    Attention, User, you have requested information on a clearance level you are not authorized to know about. Please press the red button to complete your termination. Disobedience is cause for termination. Have a nice day.

  21. It's great by lelitsch · · Score: 2, Funny

    bash:

    echo $PATH

    Monad:

    Private Sub echo1_CLI(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As
    System.EventArgs) Handles echo1.CLI

    Try

    AddHandler EchoCL1.PrintLine, AddressOf Me.PrintCL1_PrintLine
    PrintLine1.Print(Sys.Init.Windows.PATH)
    Catch ex As Exception
    Message.Show("An error occurred while printing PATH ", _
    ex.ToString())

    End Try