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Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 (r0a) Quick Tour
linuxbeta writes "At OSDir there's a tour of the fixed Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 (r0a) release. After 3 years we finally get to have a look at the new Debian, including their new installer. Release notes. Only occasionally does this new release differ from Ubuntu."
After 3 years we finally get to have a look...
Mod me troll, but how many GUI's have I seen that look exactly like that?
There is truth in humor.
After 3 years they really should have bumped the number more than that.
GETPKG - Package Management for Slackware
1) Without Debian, no Ubutnu.
2) Want a reliable server? -Debian Stable 3) Want the latest and greatest? -Debian Unstable
That's not the point of Debian.
I tried Debian a few years ago and hated it. Now I love it. Why? I have 2 boxen that *have* to work or I start losing money. If you go for Stable, which is currently Sarge, then, yes, it is behind the times. Problaby none of the major programs in Sarge are the latest versions, but they are stable and have been tested more than almost any software declared stable on the planet. I know I can install Sarge on these systems and not have to worry. That's the point of Debian: to provide a rock-solid and stable distro that is done right -- in a style developers, admins and programers know is most likely to produce stable programs once they are installed.
If you want more "up-to-date" packages, run Testing (currently Etch) or Unstable (always Sid). The packages are still in the process of being tested and migrating to a stable state, but the latest bells and whistles can be found there for you to play with if a pretty GUI is all you need.
The point is not to look pretty. If you like that, Windows has some very nice wallpaper, and a much prettier installer. If all you're worried about is a GUI, then I suggest you try that OS.
As for gaining market share, if it weren't for the way Debian works, we would not see all the Debian based distros out there like Mepis, Knoppix, Kanotix, and Ubuntu. I know there's more, but they charge too much and don't have enough to make the price worth while.
So Debian guys are not behind everyone else. They are, in many ways ahead -- at least to those who know what they are doing and why they are doing it. If you don't like it, go back to Windows or spend a few bucks on Linspire. When you get to the point where you can appreciate more than a need to gain marketshare or pretty GUIs, then look at Debian.
> I think what most people are suggesting is that Ubuntu is more capable of managing Debian than Debian is.
That's totally beside the point. You do not seem to understand the relation between the two. What Ubuntu is more capable of is managing are *quick, extremely stripped down releases of Debian*. Nothing more. All the grunt work is done by the Debian developers. The reason Ubuntu was able to create a system competitive with established big distributions like RedHat in such a short time, is not that their few employees are geniuses, but that they take all the enormously valuabe work from Debian and just need to add a few little twists to them. It really only shows that Debian isn't lacking nearly as much as it may seem at first look.
All my comments get moderated +-0, spotless.
"Only occasionally does this new release differ from Ubuntu."
Duh. Wouldn't it rather be appropriate to put it the other way round?...
All my comments get moderated +-0, spotless.
I am a Debian junkie. Recently I had to switch over to Redhat due to the fact that Debian was not certified to run Oracle (which doesnt run on any system whether its certified or not). How do you Redhat people update your systems??? Up2date, rpm (lots of man pages later), tar balls If anyone knows a good Debian to Redhat doc then I would be a happier sysadm, until then give me apt-get dpkg and a 100% up2date working system.
To everyone his/her own distro!!! But Debian is still the best one around. Cheers to the Debian crew, all +1000 of them.
I wouldn't be surprised if all of this talk about Ubuntu replacing Debian as the "end user" distribution becomes true. However, if it does, it would only be due to a self-fulfilling prophesy. Debian itself is a very good distro for a new user or an experienced one. It was a first distro I ever installed (piece of cake), and it is still the one I prefer today. I personally feel that Debian has a future as much more than just a base for other distros.
Some of us simply don't require the constant barrage of new features a distribution like Ubuntu or Debian Unstable offers. Although any Linux distribution can be adapted to fit almost any market, not all of us require the latest wireless adapters or version of openoffice to fulfill our needs.