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Looking for Answers in the Age of Search

prostoalex writes "James Fallows, in a New York Times article, notices that search engines are getting pretty good at providing information for simple keyword-based queries. However, when it comes to the actual information, such as finding the necessary data and statistics, they're not doing a great job. The article talks about the NSA- and CIA-sponsored Aquaint project that aims to deliver answers to questions that might be expressed with a variety of keywords, and need to be 'understood' by the search engine before providing the answer."

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  1. Google became self-aware at 2:14am EDT August .... by Colin+Smith · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ho yes, there's a good idea. Give Google the ability to understand.

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  2. What I'd like to see.... by Chowser · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One thing missed in so many search engines now is finding information on a particular company quickly and efficiently. Often when I type a particular company into google or another search, I get a bunch of other hits before the actual company itself. Now, bigger companies come as the first hit often (i.e., apple, dell, canon, etc.) Try finding for that lesser-known company though and you'll encounter a lot of crap first. The company listing should always come first.

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    1. Re:What I'd like to see.... by JonBuck · · Score: 3, Informative

      What you need to do is find the right search tool.

      The Thomas Register might be more what you're looking for.

      http://www.thomasnet.com/

    2. Re:What I'd like to see.... by DeadSea · · Score: 3, Informative
      You might actually like MSN search. They seem to heavily favor the home page of sites. So much so that MSN will often send a bunch of traffic to the front page, but virtually none directly into sub pages.

      I find this behaviour annoying because I tend to search for more obscure stuff. But if you search for company names, this does have the nice effect of almost always getting the companies home page.

  3. Real Aquaint Web Site... by xyzzy · · Score: 3, Informative
  4. Looking for Answers... by rah1420 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...like the Semantic Web?

    No, I don't know why it's being relaunched. My guess is that it's probably one of the answers that we are looking for in the age of search that didn't quite cut it. But isn't that what all these different meta-searches are talking about? The ability to get semantic meaning imbued into the web?

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    1. Re:Looking for Answers... by TuringTest · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, the Semantic Web goals are exactly the idea stated in the article.

      Regular Slashdot crew don't get it because of the overly complicated status of the current S.W. standards, but in the future some lightweight implementation of the Semantic Web idea will take off and we will have search engines that somehow "answer questions" instead of just "finding words".

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  5. Cluster Searching by LordMyren · · Score: 3, Informative

    Google really lacks at filtering out noise. I was looking for Gran Turismo tuning stuff yesterday. Gran Turismo tuning -"release date" -cheats -faq, &c &c &c. The list of restrictions to filter out noise kept getting bigger and bigger, but it was still just the big agencies that were getting hits, nothing about the game itself.

    Clusty on the other hand is no sucker for a press release. I find its much smarter at locating actual content.

    Myren

  6. I agree by nxtr · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just try to google a website for these guys!

  7. I would welcome them... by Dog135 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I for one would welcome our new search engine overloards, except google already runs my life, so it'd be a bit redundant.

    I continue to welcome the mighty all-knowing google as the ruler of our lives.

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  8. We use Mindmeld by MichaelPenne · · Score: 3, Informative

    for an 'intelligent' FAQ.

    It uses more of a human based system, it 'learns' as folks type in different questions (and versions of the same question)and tell it whether the answers it gives are helpful. As uses 'teach' it, it gets better at providing relevent results to natural language queries.

    Worth a look:
    http://mindmeld.sourceforge.net/mmsf/index.php

  9. Comedy. by Kerago · · Score: 3, Funny
  10. Things to fix first... [Google] by mister_llah · · Score: 3, Funny

    1. Google needs to find and kill keyword-filled spam/malware/whatever pages. Not just remove them from their search list, but murder the people who started them.

    2. Google needs to filter responses based on ad content. If there are a ton of ads, chances are, the site is bupkiss and its priority should be massively downgraded.

    3. Google needs to filter based on ownership by holding companies. These cybersquatters should be downgraded in response priority and their pets should be sterlized or neutered to control the pet population.

    4. Google needs to get back in the kitchen and make me a pie.

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    Fix those things, then perhaps we should worry about statistical analysis... (but hey, thats just me)

    IMHO, if you want accurate stats and information, go to a library...

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  11. Google works pretty well by suitepotato · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can you say Dogpile?

    Google is the number one search agent for me as more often than not with a short list of carefully chosen starting terms, and a little refinement from sleuthing, I can find what I need pretty quickly.

    Do the search engines have to be so smart they find what we meant to find or even what we think we meant to find as opposed to what we literally asked for? They're tools, like library cards, not servants there to do our work for us and stop us from thinking about the search process. Are we complaining because this all isn't as brainless as AOL?

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  12. Because they are tools only by SkiifGeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think that there will always be a need for knowledge specialists (professional researchers), whose job it is to develop useful results from requests for information, using whatever tools are at hand.

    Tools like Google and MSN Search are not the only thing you need to find information. There are still places for other information, and 'because Google said so' is not a valid reason for accepting information as relevant, or factual.

    Although these tools will continue to improve, the application of wisdom will still require human input to make the results useful.

  13. What I would like to see by houghi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    is the ability to filter out certain types of sites. Like the sites that are webinterfaces to Usenet or sites that sell stuff.

    When I now look for a digital camera, I get hunderds of sites trying to sell me one, then a lot of sites that talk about it till I get to the makers homepage. an example The page I am looking for is this one
    Vivisimo makes it a bit easier, but not completely.

    A9 also failed to produce the correct page.

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