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Linux For Losers According To De Raadt

elohim writes "Theo has some scathing comments about Linux in his new interview with Forbes Magazine. From the article: 'It's terrible...Everyone is using it, and they don't realize how bad it is. And the Linux people will just stick with it and add to it rather than stepping back and saying, "This is garbage and we should fix it."'"

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  1. reasons? by SolusSD · · Score: 1, Funny

    he obviously isn't a unix user. Just because it doesn't copy windows doesn't mean its "crap".

    1. Re:reasons? by SolusSD · · Score: 2, Funny

      please.. it is really way too early for anyone to be taking my post seriously. I read tfa. I still stand by the well known fact that De Raadt has never used unix in his life.

  2. At last!!! by DaHat · · Score: 5, Funny

    You mean for once I am not a loser? I never thought I'd see the day when running Windows was... cool.

    1. Re:At last!!! by bodester17 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I was always imbarrased for using windows. I would hide in the corner at coffee shops with my toshiba laptop hiding from the disapointing eyes of those harolded mac users. But now I am free. Loosers use linux, not windows. Hurray!!

    2. Re:At last!!! by SoupIsGood+Food · · Score: 5, Funny

      You assume that being a loser is a monopoly, an understandable assumption, as you run windows. No, I do hate to break this to you, but many people can all be losers at once, and compete with each other for uncoolness and anti-cred. OpenBSD users see Linux users as losers, but thet also see you as a loser. No coolness for you today, try tomorrow.

      SoupIsGood Food

    3. Re:At last!!! by l3v1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      You mean for once I am not a loser? I never thought I'd see the day when running Windows was... cool.

      Aninteresting point to see the world from you got there :] Since an OpenBSD guru sees Linux users as loosers you suddenly feel that running Windows is cool ? :) Some logic profs would surely enjoy listen to your reasoning :D

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    4. Re:At last!!! by rvega · · Score: 3, Funny

      Toshiba? What a loser...

    5. Re:At last!!! by The+Other+White+Boy · · Score: 4, Funny

      I was always imbarrased for using windows. I would hide in the corner at coffee shops with my toshiba laptop hiding from the disapointing eyes of those harolded mac users. But now I am free. Loosers use linux, not windows. Hurray!!

      ...wow. i'm not normally one to go nazi on spelling, but good lord.

    6. Re:At last!!! by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 5, Funny
      Well, you didn't read the companion piecein last month's Forbes titled "Windows Is For Childraping Dogfuckers Who Drive Giant SUVs Over Baby Ducks"

      Hey! It's a joke! :D

    7. Re:At last!!! by hype7 · · Score: 2, Funny
      You're cool by a process of elimination if you're not represented in this photo


      -- james

    8. Re:At last!!! by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey, I use Windows and I resent the implication that I drive an SUV.

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    9. Re:At last!!! by ninewands · · Score: 2, Funny

      I seem to detect an irony meter in desparate need of recalibration. :)

  3. Score... by Paiway · · Score: 3, Funny

    -5 Flamebait

  4. Shocking News! by GypC · · Score: 4, Funny

    Theo De Raadt Abrasive and Opinionated! Film at 11

  5. Re:"Scathing" != "Untrue" by Fr4ncis · · Score: 5, Funny

    Theo is teh ghey! L12nux r00lzzzzzz!!!

  6. Re: Classy Response to Theo by Linus Torvalds by Black+Parrot · · Score: 4, Funny


    > > Torvalds, via e-mail, says De Raadt is "difficult" and declined to comment further.

    > I must say, Linus really comes across as a classy, quality person. It takes mature restraint to deal with "difficult" people like Theo, and Linus does so with class.

    He knows he can count on us to fill in the details.

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  7. 7-11 versus National Bank. by Nijika · · Score: 4, Funny
    So the National Bank says to the 7-11, "your security sucks!" The 7-11 says "Yeah but we've got slurpees."

    And that's about as much sense as this conversation makes.

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  8. Re:"Scathing" != "Untrue" by Strawser · · Score: 5, Funny

    The article was awful for being kind of sloppy, but De Raadt was feeding it. It's an article composed of generalizations about caricatures of steriotypes, which is something like sloppy*10^3.

    "Linux people do what they do because they hate Microsoft. We do what we do because we love Unix"

    Could have just as easily been . . .

    "Linux people do what they do because they hate Microsoft. We do what we do because we hate Linux"

    "BSD guys are a lot like Linux guys, except they have kissed girls."

    Would have been as meaningful had it been . . .

    "BSD guys are a lot like Linux guys, except they have kissed each other."

    I mean, no, linux isn't perfect, but that's not news. It's also not news that some people in the BSD community flame people in the Linux community, and vice versa, and they're usually silly flames. I don't mind silly flames so much on /., but silly flames in Forbes is pathetic.

    I bet they just do what they do because they hate Slashdot. ;)

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  9. Re:If I was Theo de Raadt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I agree, but... this is Forbes magazine - it's like the equivalent of "Marie Claire" for executives, except without the fun quizzes telling you what technique to try in bed next month.

  10. Re:"Scathing" != "Untrue" by llamashoes · · Score: 3, Funny

    does this belong here?

  11. My kneejerk reaction by Cytlid · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...was who is this clown on Forbes bashing Linux? Then I saw it was an OpenBSD thing... and went, oh, nothing new there.

    Then I felt dumb when I realized it was *the* OpenBSD guy. But I still didn't feel so bad.

    The best part of the article was the mention of "In a sort of hacker equivalent of the Ford-versus-Chevy rivalry..." which is exactly what it boils down to.

    So to add to the petty bickering, I've decided I like Linux more only because I've had more exposure to it, and I like the mascot more. Of course, here I was thinking it was the little Devil thing, but I guess thats just my confusion of the BSDs, eh?

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  12. Re:"Scathing" != "Untrue" by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1, Funny

    Exactly why I never RTFA. I'll read the posts and maybe even post a few times. If the posts spark my interest and I think the article may be worth my add views then I'll read it.

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  13. Linux confidence boosting measures by mukund · · Score: 4, Funny

    "You know what I found? Right in the kernel, in the heart of the operating system, I found a developer's comment that said, 'Does this belong here?' "Lok says. "What kind of confidence does that inspire? Right then I knew it was time to switch."

    Damn. Somebody remove that comment.

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  14. Re:What I don't like about BSD by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 4, Funny

    If this were a windows fanboy thread, you'd have 20 dozen MCSE bootcamp graduates screaming that you should spend the next 6 months using regmon to figure out which keys are for the app, which aren't. You're also supposed to sacrifice a chicken or something during the folly.

    Give me txt file configs any day of the week.

  15. Re:"Scathing" != "Untrue" by DigitumDei · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...BSD guys are a lot like Linux guys, except they have kissed girls.

    Its times like this that you have to link to penny arcade

  16. Re:"Scathing" != "Untrue" by Dogtanian · · Score: 4, Funny

    "BSD guys are a lot like Linux guys, except they have kissed girls."

    The only reason the girls let the *BSD guys kiss them is that they felt sorry for them- apparently the *BSD guys are dying.

    Netcraft confirms it.

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  17. Re:Switched from Linux because of a comment? by Jacco+de+Leeuw · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Does this belong here?" is in OpenBSD too.

    Time to switch again...

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  18. Re:"Scathing" != "Untrue" by dougmc · · Score: 2, Funny
    ...BSD guys are a lot like Linux guys, except they have kissed girls.
    Well, they thought that was a girl that they paid $20 to kiss, but after googling for her name, they found some pictures of her on the `Transexuals are Friends, not Food!' web site, and noticed that she had a rather prominent Adam's Apple, so they're not quite so sure anymore ...
  19. Re:Code comments vs public comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Yeah, but what would Brian Boitano do?

  20. Re:Confidence vs. bravado. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I'd love to see more convictions among politicians. Tom DeLay, for example; he should definitely get convicted of something.

  21. i agree by Flunitrazepam · · Score: 3, Funny

    This article has really made me see the light. It is full of unwaivering logic and factual critique of the Linux OS. I am now switching to OpenBSD. In fact, I will now be switching the entire Datacenter to run OpenBSD, and find a picture of De Rat to use as my desktop background.

    Thank you Forbes magazine, once again you proved to mold and shape the direction of my life.

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  22. Re:And BSD is any different? by chrysalis · · Score: 2, Funny
    $ uname -a
    OpenBSD ufo.orbus.fr 3.7 GENERIC.MP#0 i386

    $ find /usr/src/sys -name '*.c' -or -name '*.h' -exec grep "belong here" {} \;
    /* XXX: does not belong here */
    * XXX FIXME: probably does not belong here
    * XXX FIXME: probably does not belong here
    /* XXX FIXME this does not belong here */
    #define IEEEPROTO_802LLC 3 /* doesn't belong here */
    That's better than FreeBSD.
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  23. It would be a real scream ... by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Does this belong here?" is in OpenBSD too.

    It would be a real scream if the comment that prompted the PHB to swtich from Linux to BSD was cloned from BSD to Linux. B-)

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  24. figured out my answer by rotagivan · · Score: 2, Funny

    I was having a hard time deciding between *BSD and *nix, but kissing girls sounds like so much fun I'm gonna have to choose *BSD.

  25. Re:"Scathing" != "Untrue" by David+Gould · · Score: 2, Funny


    Its times like this that you have to link to penny arcade

    Heh. Man, one of these days, I'm gonna add penny arcade to my list of regular webcomics. Aw, who am I kidding?

    ...BSD guys are a lot like Linux guys, except they have kissed girls.

    The way I like to say it is: "BSD: It's like Linux, but for grown-ups!"

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