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Cassette Tapes On The Wane

jonerik writes "The BBC has an article on the current status of the once-popular cassette tape in the UK and elsewhere. It's been a long climb up and a long fall down for the audio format introduced by Dutch electronics giant Philips in 1963. Having sold 83 million units in the UK at their 1989 peak, cassettes sold just 900,000 units in the UK last year. And yet the cassette soldiers on in the West in niche applications - particularly in the audio book market - and in other countries where CD and MP3 penetration hasn't been as extensive. From the article: 'Keith Joplin, a Director of Research at the International Federation of Phonographic Industries, said that Turkey still sells 88 million cassettes a year, India 80 million, and that cassettes account for 50% of sales in these countries. In Saudi Arabia, it is 70%.'"

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  1. I'm new at this, but... by OakDragon · · Score: 3, Informative
    Turkey still sells 88 million cassettes a year, India 80 million, and that cassettes account for 50% of sales in these countries. In Saudi Arabia, it is 70%

    In Soviet Russia, cassette tapes you!

  2. Re:Analogue formats will never die. by grub · · Score: 2, Informative


    Macrovision is an analog copy protection system.

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  3. Re:Video camera that used audio cassette tape. by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.vidipax.com/museum/msm49.html

    apparently a lot of independant and underground filmmakers were huge fans of the things in the 90's

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  4. Cassettes by jd · · Score: 5, Informative
    Type IV cassettes were comparable in quality to a CD and about the same sort of price, although most stereos didn't have the ability to take advantage of anything above a Type II.


    They were a lot more durable, too. CDs scratch a lot more easily, and you can't repair them with scotch tape.


    Because they were analogue devices, you could play them at variable speed or even in reverse, which meant you could get some really strange effects if you tried. You can't really do that with a physical digital system, you'd have to read the information into RAM and then vary the sample speed.


    CDs and DVDs decay rapidly in UV light, which means they are worse than useless for long-term storage. Tape, on the other hand, can remain in extremely good shape for decades.


    Finally, tape systems are simpler and mechanical, which means that they can be maintained in countries that have little or no technology. I would really not want to try to replace a 16-bit DAC chip in a CD player in the middle of the Sahara desert, but unclogging a jammed lever would be relatively easy.


    (For that matter, given the choice of making a DAC chip from scratch, or winding copper to make a motor, it's fairly obvious as to what the minimum level of technology you'd need would be.)


    That's not to say that digital formats suck. Well, most do - they're low-cost and low-grade - but that's because manufacturers are cheapskates and not because the concept is flawed. Digital formats should be "better than live", because stage microphones are generally poorer than studio microphones, studio power should be a great deal "cleaner", and RFI interference should be much more controllable.


    In reality, CDs are 16-bit 44.1 KHz lossy recordings on aluminium disks (the cheapest type you can go for, which means there may well be errors in the recordings, as well as having no meaningful life-expectancy). Live digital instruments (such as professional keyboards) are often 20- to 24-bit, 192 KHz, and lossless digital amplifiers have been around since the 60s. (Though damn-near lossless high-end analogue amplifiers have been around about as long.)


    What we're getting is third-rate crap that only rich corporations can even maintain, which means most consumers treat such devices as disposable. And then people wonder why those who can't afford, or don't even have access to, those rich corporations opt for something that - for all intents and purposes - is just as good but much more useful to them.


    For further notes on this, you might want to check out the clockwork radio (1 hour+ of listening time) that is popular in Africa. When you can't go round the corner for batteries, low-tech solutions that produce high-tech results are going to be popular.

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    1. Re:Cassettes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      > Type IV cassettes were comparable in quality to a CD and about the same sort
      > of price, although most stereos didn't have the ability to take advantage of
      > anything above a Type II.

      That's not true; all tapes have far inferior S/N ratios than CDs, they do
      not have flat frequency responses, and they have higher distortion.

      However, it is true that on typical music material (i.e., not 'classical'),
      a high quality tape dub off a CD comes close.

      > CDs and DVDs decay rapidly in UV light, which means they are worse than
      > useless for long-term storage. Tape, on the other hand, can remain in
      > extremely good shape for decades.

      Recordables, yes. I wasn't aware that pre-recorded 'degrade in UV'.

      I'm not sure quite how well tape stands up, but considering they are subject
      to wear and tear on every playback, and the problems of drop-out and
      print-through, I doubt that you can really claim tape has brilliant
      longevity. Moreover, there is no way to backup a tape without losing a
      generation.

      > Finally, tape systems are simpler and mechanical, which means that they can be
      > maintained in countries that have little or no technology. I would really not
      > want to try to replace a 16-bit DAC chip in a CD player in the middle of the
      > Sahara desert, but unclogging a jammed lever would be relatively easy.

      Hardly an argument against a technology, and even if you are going to argue
      about 'spreading the benefits', IC's are a highly efficient and low cost way
      of doing so. Besides, you'd have to compare fixing the CD transport
      mechanism, not the DAC. I'm sure replacing the surface-mount IC's in a
      cassette deck in the 'middle of the Sahara desert' (!) would be an easy
      task, too.

      > That's not to say that digital formats suck. Well, most do - they're low-cost
      > and low-grade

      (!) CD was state-of-the-art at the time.

      I don't suppose you've heard of DVD-A and SACD...

      > In reality, CDs are 16-bit 44.1 KHz lossy recordings on aluminium disks (the
      > cheapest type you can go for, which means there may well be errors in the
      > recordings, as well as having no meaningful life-expectancy)

      You're have to look into what BLER (block level error rate) results in
      interpolation to the point of audibility.

      > Live digital instruments (such as professional keyboards) are often 20- to
      > 24-bit, 192 KHz, and lossless digital amplifiers have been around since the
      > 60s. (Though damn-near lossless high-end analogue amplifiers have been around
      > about as long.)

      Compared to the linearity of the typical, or even high-end, loudspeaker...

      > That we're getting is third-rate crap that only rich corporations can even
      > maintain, which means most consumers treat such devices as disposable.

      There are plenty of high-end audio devices out there; apparently, most
      consumers are not willing to pay for them. Audio technology, in particular
      in the realm of mechanical devices (i.e., loudspeakers), does not benefit
      from the same cost reduction curve as IC's, but also, quality amplifiers
      need expensive power supplies, etc.

      (High-end studio microphones are also terribly expensive, but professional
      recording studios are willing to pay for them.)

      If you really want to criticise the record industry, then I'd look at the
      medicore quality of today's music, and the excessive amounts of compression
      used in the 'mastering' stage, apparently to make the music 'hotter' and
      'louder'. (When it makes it 'flatter', and only makes the average level
      'louder'.)

      > For further notes on this, you might want to check out the clockwork radio (1
      > hour+ of listening time) that is popular in Africa. When you can't go round
      > the corner for batteries, low-tech solutions that produce high-tech results
      > are going to be popular.

      What on earth has some crap clockwork radio, aimed at those at sustenance
      levels of living, have to do with the highest quality audio reproduction?

      I think I'll stick with my iPod and Shure 'phones if I ever have the
      misfortune to be in Africa, thank you very much.