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Japanese Agency Plan for Robot Lunar Base

Dilaudid writes "According to these articles Keiji Tachikawa, head of the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency sees a major role in the lunar base planned by NASA in 2020. 'As part of the plan Japan would use advanced robotic technologies to help build the moon base ... Japan's lunar robots would do work such as building telescopes and prospecting and mining for minerals, Tachikawa said.' Tachikawa was voted one of the 25 most influential global leaders by Time... I wish him luck!"

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  1. US cooperation?? by lecithin · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Tachikawa's plan follows a January 2004 decision by U.S. President George W. Bush that the U.S., with the assistance of partners including Japan, should build a lunar base by about 2020 and use it as a staging point for the human exploration of Mars."

    Does this mean that the US and Japan will be working together on this?

    This quote actually fits!!!

    "All your base are belong to U.S.!"

    "Tachikawa was voted one of the 25 most influential global leaders by Time..."

    So was Oprah. (same year) For some reason this does not give me the warm fuzzies. Did Tachikawa have a talk show or something?

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  2. Re:Theories (asinine) by mfh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Japanese robots on the moon, is this the beginnings of post-colonial cyborg imperialism?"

    When NASA was founded in 1958, Japan was really still recovering from Nagasaki and Hirshima, 13 years earlier. It wasn't until August 1967 when the reinforcement construction was completed on A-bomb Dome in Hiroshima.

    Keiji Tachikawa's last name is the same as Tachikawa, a town outside of Tokyo, founded on December 1, 1940. Coincidence?

    Japan and the US are now poised to build a very important part of human history together. It's quite moving, IMHO.

    I guess it just shows you that no matter what happens, no matter what the evil stuff is, there always really is hope... unless the lunar space robots are really a ploy to get back at us? Fear the space robots!

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  3. Buy Sony! by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Of course Japanese robots will be working on the Moon. The Japanese are the only ones working on humanoid robots that have made significant process in all aspects of design. So you'll have your Honda Asimo to bring you materials, the Toyota Q'rio to put them together, and Gundam to ward off the Russians.

    If countries were as serious about robotics as the Japanese are, the whole idea of a Moon dominated by Japanese robots would just be a dream. But Tachikawa is just stating the obvious. The sadly, Japanese are the only ones qualified to provide useful robots.

  4. Bad idea... by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can just see giant problems here. First you position all your supplies to build a moon base, and then you unleash semi-autonomous robots to build it. What happens next is nothing less than the total destruction of human life on Earth, after the robots build their moon base, slowly becoming self aware, and then deciding that all our bases are belonging to them. This is a BAD idea.

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  5. Wow... by ch0p · · Score: 5, Interesting

    These robots better have some clever way of getting rid of the magnetically charged, extreamly abrasive lunar dust. I had to design a lunar robot for a NASA contest, and that was the biggest obsticle. We just came up with some miracle "demagnatizing spray" that would blow off the dust. I'd like to see how they pull this off without made up technologies.

  6. Re:Theories (asinine) by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 5, Funny

    explain why Japan still kills hundreds of whales every year.

    They are delicious.

  7. Re:Theories (asinine) by JanneM · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Who needs people when robots can do the work?

    Well, who _does_ need people when robots can do the work?

    If it happens, we've been there before. About two centuries ago, the vast majority of, well, everyone was gainfully employed in agriculture. Today, in many parts, it's only part of the population - and in wealthy countries it is a small fraction. Yet agricultural output is larger than ever before, and the changing societies managed to absorb that huge pool of available work it got as a result.

    I'm looking forward to the day when most menial, dangerous and physically wearing work can be automated.

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  8. Transcript from the NASA Archives by williamhooligan · · Score: 4, Funny
    NASA PR EXECUTIVE: We've just had word that some foreign guy Time voted 13th Most Influential Global Leader back in 2001 wants a major role in the development of the space station.

    NASA PROJECT MANAGER: Oh, for the love of God... where do you find these people? Alright, give him a desk next to Dave Chapelle and that politician guy who reckons he invented the internet. Tell him not to touch anything. And tell Lucas over on Token Consultant Desk #371 that he can stick his turbolaser suggestion up his ass.

  9. Manifest Destiny by ramblin+billy · · Score: 4, Interesting


    Much as Russia has always longed for a warm water port, Japan has always needed a reliable source of raw materials. Their invasions of China and Russia, and their involvement in WWII, were all based on the limited resources of their homeland. The partnership with the U.S. has provided both a market and a supply of materials for the remarkable post WWII growth of Japanese industry. Space is the perfect answer to a continuing joint effort. I own a Honda and am convinced it is a superior product in every way. I see no reason to believe their robots will be any different. The Japanese are sometimes accused of being better copiers than inovators, at least when it comes to technology. That may be true, but we should also consider that many American companies have copied Japanese management techniques with great success. Traditionally the Japanese people have excelled at successful integration of large populations in small areas with limited resources. Their society incorporates complex and specific codes for individual behavior. In an artificial environment, such as a lunar settlement, the ability to get along in crowded conditions and the socialization of necessary protocols for environmental adaptation are powerful tools for success. The typical Japanese's willingness to give loyalty to the greater good makes them ideal partners in enduring the hardships of space exploration. Note that the articles refer to the Japanese contribution to a lunar colony centering on building and mining robots. Of course the technicians to maintain and control those robots will be a part of that contribution. It may be that in the long run, the lessons learned from the Japanese culture will outweigh the benefits of their technology. Personally I like the idea of a U.S. partnership with a society that is absolutely against the proliferation of nuclear weapons. It will make it that much easier for US to do the right thing.

    billy - we have no space-based weapons...no really...we promise...really...

  10. Re:Theories (asinine) by toad3k · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Scenario one. A guy with a hammer. He hammers nails all day, takes his paycheck and goes home.

    Scenario two. A guy overseeing 20 robots with 20 hammers. He directs all day, takes a same sized paycheck goes home to his new home which was built at a 10th the price of the first guy's house because it was built by robots.

    This is progress. This is no different than the fact that people aren't sitting out in cotton fields picking at cotton seeds all day anymore thanks to the cotton gin. There will always be some other work available.

  11. Re:Theories (asinine) by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Because you all know how well The USA treated its own citizens of Japanese decent during the war."
    Yes what the US did was wrong. The Equal of what the government of Japan did?
    NO FRIGGING WAY.
    How many beheading of Japanese Americans did the Government of the US do? How many where forced to become "comfort women" for the US Army?
    Want to compare how Japan treated none combatants that they interned? Probably not.

    The US did not attack Japan first. The US was trying to use trying use trade sanctions and political pressure to get Japan to stop it's aggression.
    As far as the carpet bombings and the Atomic Bombs. The number of Chinese and Korean deaths out numbers those by far.
    "This is not a reason to dislike one country but is a reason to dislike war."

    You see this is another BLIND KNEE JERK REACTION!
    In my post did I ever say Japan? Did I ever say the people of Japan? Nope I said the Government of Japan. Specifically the war time government of Japan.
    The war time government of Japan is to blame for the carpet bombings and the atomic bombings. Even after the first Atomic attack they where trying to negotiate for no occupation and they would disarm there own military.
    The myth that is about preserving their Emperor is just that a myth.
    I do not agree that one should not hate a government that carries out genocidal wars like the Japanese and German government did during WWII. I also disagree that by 1941 their was a peaceable way to stop them.
    Had the victors of WWI had set up a "Just Peace" like the US wanted then maybe Hitler would have never come to power. The problem is it was not tried until after the WWII.
    The thing we all have to remember is that the Japan and Germany of today are not the Japan and Germany of WWII. The other important thing to remember is even during WWII most of the people in Japan and German just wanted to raise there kids and live their lives.

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