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Alice Movie Off The Ground

After a long period of preproduction, the movie adaptation of American McGee's Alice is moving forward. Eurogamer has the news that 'Buffy' star Sarah Michelle Gellar will play the title role. From the article: "The movie will follow the plot of the game, which adds a twisted spin to Lewis Carroll's classic tales. Some years after her adventures in Wonderland, Alice's parents are killed in a house fire and, devastated by the loss, she winds up in a mental asylum."

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  1. Dementation of already odd tales by mister_llah · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... seems to be a trend in film and theater these days. Alice in an institution, the Wicked Witch being portrayed as the victim of Dorothy in "Wicked" (on broadway) ... http://www.wickedthemusical.com/ ... if you are the curious sort...

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    I think it's all well and good to try and come up with new ideas, but in a way, I am starting to dislike the trend of taking childhood films and turning them into something not intended for children.

    Next they'll have "The New Adventures of the Smurfs" ... it'll be triple X, and you know where this is going, so I'll shut the smurf up.

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    1. Re:Dementation of already odd tales by justforaday · · Score: 3, Funny

      Next thing you know Disney will come along and start bastardizing classic stories...

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    2. Re:Dementation of already odd tales by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ever read the Brothers Grimm?

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    3. Re:Dementation of already odd tales by Jerf · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes.

      It may not be Hellraiser, but the term "Fairy Tale" has been pretty whitewashed since the Brothers Grimm chronicled them. If you go expecting stories about Jack jumping over the candlestick, you'll be surprised.

      Modern times differs only in our ability to graphically depict gore without actually hurting anybody; the fascination isn't new.

    4. Re:Dementation of already odd tales by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's rather educational. Definitely don't read it to your kids without preparing yourself and checking the whole story beforehand.

      For example, one of Cinderella's stepsisters was doing fine with Prince Charming, until the fields whispered to him "Dude, check out her foot! Check out her foot!" and he looked and saw that she had severed her heel in order to fit into the glass slipper and she was bleeding everywhere.

      Also for example, there is a story that's only one page long about Rose Red: This little boy disobeys his mother and goes out into the forest and meets Rose Red. Then, exactly one year later, the boy dies in his bed and his mother finds a red rose on the doorstep. No, it's not too upsetting, but that's the whole story.

      Most of the stories are gory and weird. Yes, German people are twisted, but IMHO there is something to be said for telling your children about twisted shit. This is expounded upon in Neal Stephenson's Diamond Age, and he cites The Raven (By Coleridge, not Poe) as an excellent example.

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  2. ADDS a twisted spin? by Gulthek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You mean their wasn't twisted nature to that book already? Or does the submitter mean that the happy spin added by Disney is twisted back to the creepiness of the book with this movie?

  3. Re:Excellent by Elranzer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Disney never believed that...

    Alice in Wonderland - British
    Mary Poppins - British
    Lion King - Africa
    Mulan - China
    ...
    Disney - American company

    Spielburg and Cruise will be ruining War of the Worlds. Luckily, a recent British adaptation of the movie was just released, and available on DVD in America now.

  4. Re:Excellent by Golias · · Score: 5, Funny

    Americans can't relate to things that happen to people who aren't American in countries that aren't the US.

    Very true. This is why "Casablanca" did so poorly, and why nobody goes to James Bond movies in the US. Or Harry Potter movies.

    Also, "Titanic" might not have lost so much money if Rose was American. Too bad, that film looked like it had a chance to make a few bucks.

    I could go on all day rattling off failures like "Lawrence of Arabia", "Doctor Zhivago", and "The Passion of the Christ." If only they had American main characters, they might have made money in US theaters.

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  5. wrong actress... by Allison+Geode · · Score: 3, Interesting

    should have gotten Christina Ricci for Alice. she already looks the part, at least, and i can see her doing the mentally unstable goth in a strange land better than Sarah Michelle Gellar.

    1. Re:wrong actress... by ultramk · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm not sure you get the character very well. She's the epitome of the little-blond-good-girl, until her life is ripped apart and she becomes... twisted.

      So you need a hollow-eyed blond waif who has her mind... corrupted innocence. SMG might actually work for this. Though I would prefer someone like Alicia Silverstone (too old now I guess).

      Christina Ricci, on the other hand, seems like she was born that way. Remember her as Wednesday Addams?

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  6. Re:Excellent by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Americans can't relate to things that happen to people who aren't American in countries that aren't the US."

    Just remember that whatever country you're from has ugly ill-based stereotypes, too.

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  7. *keeping fingers crossed* by ultramk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Here's hoping American McGee's Strawberry Shortcake will make it to the big screen soon, too.

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  8. Games to movies , amoungst the.. by FidelCatsro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It will join such classics as Resident Evil the movie , The Mario brothers movie , Alien VS predator(comic as well but still fits in here) , Tomb Raider.... Oh wait they were all pretty much terrible
    It will need a miracle to make this conversion anything beyond awful , the best of which being Tomb raider and it was fairly poor.
    Game to movie conversions have for some strange reason (perhaps its the total disregard for the plot (Mario) or the shoddy acting and poor scripts (most of them)) .
    I am not getting any hopes up here , lets hope for a pleasant surprise though

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  9. Re:Excellent by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Just remember that whatever country you're from has ugly ill-based stereotypes, too."

    I resent the flamebait moderation for my post. Some people spout off like their shit don't stink. I was pointing out that maybe, just maybe, they shouldn't be so quick to cast stones.

    Ever since the US invaded Iraq, there's been a green light to wrap up 300 million people in vague stereotypes. We're fat, we're self obsessed, we're wasteful, we're ignorant. Insightful, Interesting, Informative. Then we turn around and pat ourselves on the back for wanting to work for the greater good of humanity. It's about America, so it's not okay for me to point out the less than civil behaviour going on here?

    America sucks, mod me up.

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  10. Re:Excellent by Thangodin · · Score: 3, Informative

    Disney may not have believed it, but the marketing droids do. And much as I hate to be the bearer of bad news, they have the focus group studies to prove it. Keep in mind that Alice in Wonderland and Mary Poppins were made in the 60's, before the marketing droids took over. Lion King and Mulan are essentially Americans in Africa and China.

    You also wouldn't believe the number of movies made with English, Australian, or New Zealand accents that are 'dubbed' into American. I've often found myself watching a movie and realizing that the whole cast is British or from down under, and wondering what the hell happened to their accents. It is believed that the British accents are too hard for Americans to understand. Likewise, sad endings can often destroy a movie at the box office--which is why many movies have multiple endings shot, and the happiest ending is almost always used after showing it to a test audience. The final product that ships to the theatres often sickens almost everyone involved in it. In some cases, the original tragic ending was the whole point of the movie. Some potentially great movies have had their guts slashed out and left on the cutting room floor (David Lynch's Dune is one that comes to mind--even Frank Herbert loved the original, but the studio hated it.)

    So yeah, you're getting crap dished to you. As P.T. Barnum put it, nobody ever went broke by underestimating the taste of the American public. That statement has become the motto of the marketer. Lucky us.

  11. Re:Excellent by coaxial · · Score: 3, Funny

    "The Passion of the Christ." If only they had American main characters, they might have made money in US theaters.

    Wait! Wasn't Jesus American? I mean, I know he wasn't Jew... :)