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Microsoft Genuine Advantage Cracked

piyush ranjan writes "An Indian researcher has cracked the much-touted "impenetrable" Windows Genuine Advantage of Microsoft. According to Microsoft this service would soon require all Windows users to verify their license before downloading updates."

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  1. Download? by nightemaster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So... where can I download this?

  2. Two quotes come to mind by 1967mustangman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The first is from George Patton : "Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man." The second is from Karl von Clausewitz: "If you entrench yourself behind strong fortifications, you compel the enemy seek a solution elsewhere." I think these speak volumes

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  3. MOD PARENT INSIGHTFUL by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Genuine Advantage is a pain in the arse for both registered and unregistered users. If reinstalling windows was a nightmare, imagine now with having to actually activate your windows. And now for updates? Come on!

    Somebody has to put an end to this.

    1. Re:MOD PARENT INSIGHTFUL by thrift24 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The worst has to be for setting up Microsoft Learning classes that use Virtual PC. You recieve about 2-10 virtual machine images that you have to activate by phone for every class(internet activation doesn't work).

      Now imagine the fun that comes Friday after class to try to activate 3 classes worth of these by Monday morning when microsofts activation line is down half the weekend. *joy*

      Don't you love Regina? That's what we call the Microsoft activation recording, she's screams numbers out like it's a punishment she's giving you. "5! 1! 2! 7! 5! *pleasant voice* would you like me to repeat that..."

  4. Re:You'd think this would be obvious by Scoria · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can MS really be held at fault when illegal usage of the OS results in a huge failure of the Internet?

    I'll bite. Microsoft can only repair the vulnerabilities that they have been made aware of. If somebody uses a 0-day exploit to craft a worm, then I don't believe Microsoft can really be held accountable. That is like blaming the manufacturer of a safe for being susceptible to a heretofore undisclosed method of safe cracking.

    If it is a vulnerability that they've known about for months, however, not unlike many of those that affect Internet Explorer, then that should probably be considered a different story.

    Despite the accusations of trolling that you've received, however, I believe that you were right to distinguish an ethical responsibility from a legal one.

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  5. legit user by Demoknight · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ive used the program and put the little token into their site and it still wouldnt let me download something (cant remember what it was right now) so even with this crack or if youre legit you might still be out of luck :D

  6. Not a true crack by andycal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the doc linked to:
    >6. After downloading "GenuineCheck.exe", run it on the machine running a genuine copy of Windows XP.
    > It will generate a code which is used for WGA validation. Copy the code and use the same code to
    >validate a pirated copy of Windows XP and bypass the WGA.

    But that's bogus, you still need "access" to a authentic copy to perform this hack. It's not really a hack at all.

    But sadly this will only make it easier for people unwilling to pay for windows to continue to use it. It would be better if they had to find a cheeper (legal) solution.

  7. Re:You'd think this would be obvious by rpozz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    (Mods, that's not a troll, it's a decent point)

    You'd probably be quite surprised at the number of legal copies of Windows that are in use. Most people get it whether they like it or not with their new computer. People running 98/ME usually find that their computer is under-spec to run 2K/XP and simply buy a new one. It's mainly people who build their own computer (and thus should know what they are doing) who pirate Windows.

    You still raise a very interesting question there though. I would say that they should allow anyone to update, mainly because many updates to Windows are security fixes and zombie machines adversely affect other users, not just the owner.

  8. impenetrable? by dioscaido · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Where does that "impenetrable" quote come from? MS has pretty openly stated that they know that protection mechanisms like Activation can, and will, be cracked. They have been pretty clear that these mechanisms are in place more for the hobbyist or mom-and-pop user, than the people that would actively seek out cracks/pirate software.

  9. Re:You'd think this would be obvious by Scoria · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, it would still depend on the obviousness of the exploit used.

    I'm not a Microsoft apologist. I never deploy Windows. I despise many of their tactics. I prefer a Unix-based operating system.

    That said, let's face it: A 0-day exploit can affect any operating system, no matter how secure we might consider it. That includes every clone and variant of Unix available today.

    As a programmer, you can take every precaution and still encounter a blatantly obvious -- to your critics, at least -- compromise. Although it really isn't a valid comparison, I'll cite the design problem that was eventually fixed in our beloved PHP interpreter. The end-user was once allowed to manipulate server-side variables, and that was sometimes an absolute nightmare to work around.

    If such an obvious vulnerability were present in an ASP interpreter, we'd chuckle together and continue bashing the developers (developers, developers!) at Microsoft. I'll admit that it's often very funny to do so, but I'm ultimately afraid that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones -- even if our glass house is reinforced. ;-)

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  10. Asymmetrical motivation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Both generals were talking about some kind of conventional warfare. Microsoft vs the hackers isn't conventional warfare. It is a lot closer to guerilla warfare. Against guerillas, a fortress is good protection. Of course, as Mao pointed out, the guerillas may be able to let their enemy rot in their fortified cities. That may be closer to what's happening here. Microsoft may be like the conventional army which alienates the population. When that happens, the war is as good as lost.

    Like the IRA said to Margaret Thatcher: "You have to be lucky always, we only have to be lucky once." Microsoft is in the same situation. The battle is ultimately for the hearts and minds of computer users everywhere. If Microsoft makes a pain of itself in its attempts to defend its territory, their customers will eventually defect to the other side.

    btw: Things have changed in Northern Ireland. The population is becoming VERY disenchanted with the IRA. Many Catholics now hate them more than they hate the Brits and regard them as little better than organized criminals. Similarly, with many years of hard work, Microsoft could regain its good name (but I'm not holding my breath).

  11. Re:That's great microsoft... by ashmedai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Think about which is easier:

    1) Accessing a random legitimate install once for a minute or two.

    2) Accessing a legitimate install every time a new patch comes out, for however long it takes to download. Must also make arrangements to transport the downloaded files.

    That answer your question?

  12. Re:You'd think this would be obvious by linguae · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Microsoft, because it is their OS, has a moral responsibility to prevent internet worms and viruses by releasing patches to all users, regardless of the legality of the installation.

    Microsoft has the right to refuse patches of their operating system to users who have illegally obtained the software. Why should Microsoft, or any other corporation, use its money and waste its time providing patches and other OS updates to people who have illegally obtained the OS? OS patches are a privilege, not a right.

    Don't get me wrong; I do not support MS's annoying activation and registration policies. However, why should people who have pirated Windows be able to expect support from Microsoft at all? And Microsoft can't do anything about Internet worms and viruses at all. Even though Windows isn't very secure (and its long overdue for a complete rewrite), Microsoft has no control over what other software people make. Windows, or any other operating system, can't prevent worms and viruses. Only users can prevent worms and viruses. In order to avoid Internet nasties, you either need to use a more secure operating system, a less popular operating system, or stick with Windows and become educated about viruses/worms/malware/etc.

  13. Got hit by that "feature" today, VERY annoying. by tcc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wanted to install DirectX 9.0C on my laptop, and got hit by that. They've asked me to type in my product Key (which was UNDER my dhell laptop, attached to it was my external 80gb firewire drive and my 200GB USB2 drive, thank god it's not using a docking station, this would have required me to turn it off and then write it down then reboot than download, then reboot again...

    for god's sake what are they thinking? don't they get it? lot of people are buying software and use cracked version EXACTLY because of the fact that all legitimate software puts totally INSANE overhead that only irritates clients and in the end penalize them. And beleive me, they lose sales little by little because in the end it's less of a pain in the back to install cracked versions than upgrade with the re-registration, phone confirmation, yadi yada that without mentionning activations problems and all that stuff that people don't want to deal with especially after shelling out hundreds of dollars.

    You want people to stop pirating, EDUCATE them, irritating them will only do the exact opposite. When I was a kid, I had a VIC20 and a C64, EVERYTHING was copied because "stores selling games" what not a commodity like today, plus, at 11, you don't have that much money, and face it, piracy is what made the C64 such a hot seller. But later, I was educated once entering a specific field of interest (3d/video editing) by people on mailing lists and also local pros, and today I'm the one pushing people to buy software and support companies, especially when these companies puts out educational pricing or non-commercial licenses at very decent pricing. Its still easy to get pirated software, but when you are educated, you know what happens in the long run, or you know the potential legal implications it might get you into if positive reinforcement is not your thing :).

    Seriously, I just don't get it... if the goal is a clever way to reduce bandwidth costs on their server and outsource the stuff to pirate sites or torrents sites, well, hats off! but I doubt this would be the case.... man how pathetic can it get...

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  14. We HAVE to use windows... by spoco2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... if we want to play any decent number of games... I'm afraid you kind of have to use it, so don't be so high and mighty and say "Well just don't use it", because we have to.

  15. activate once, reuse by steve_l · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you have virtual PC or vmware you dont need to activate more than once.

    I have winXP VMs (domained, undomained), and a win98 vm (historical quirk). Once you get a stable image with msoffice, activate it, snapshot it, and duplicate the VM image. One tip: activate and snapshot before you domain it, as it is a real pain to undomain a win2k-domained image.

    Virtualization defeats activation.