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Microbes That Produce Miniature Electrical Wires

anukit writes "Researchers at the University of Massachusetts Amherst have discovered a tiny biological structure that is highly electrically conductive. This breakthrough helps describe how microorganisms can clean up groundwater and produce electricity from renewable resources. It may also have applications in the emerging field of nanotechnology, which develops advanced materials and devices in extremely small dimensions."

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  1. Possible cyberjack material? by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 4, Interesting


    Interesting read...the first thing that came to my mind when I read this is that these organic wires may be just the thing for the interface between electronics and organic tisue. One of the major problems in cybernetics is that the chemistry of the implants tends to be poisonous to the surrounding tissue, while the chemistry of the surrounding tisue tends to be corrosive to the implant. Over time, the interface degrades and must eventually be replaced. Microbial nanowires may eliminate this problem and pave the way for permanent interfaces sooner than we thought.

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    1. Re:Possible cyberjack material? by lahuard · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why only connect? Couldn't these be used to make actual muscles and organs that respond to electric signals from the brain?

  2. Possible applications in biological computing? by 5plicer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What if, through genetic engineering, we created neurones with these conductive pili?

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  3. Like super-algae by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    More than any nano-tech application (computer nanotech, that is), such a microbe that can be engineered to clean up waste water and then settle to the bottom of a lake and quietly die would be excellent in cleaning up many of our polluted lakes and streams.

    Obviously it would need to be non-toxic to existing wildlife and ideally it would be able to compress and become coal or oil for future generations, but the main goal would be to clean up our messes.

    With small amounts of electrical wiring as byproducts of the "biological" process of the microbe, we may even be able to "harvest" our wiring needs in much the same way we harvest seaweed or shellfish today for consumption.

    This is another amazing step in our God-granted dominion and stewardship of His Creation.

    1. Re:Like super-algae by dbIII · · Score: 5, Interesting
      More than any nano-tech application (computer nanotech, that is), such a microbe that can be engineered to clean up waste water
      Already happens. Even oil refineries have oil consuming microbes to deal with their waste water and runoff that contains the oil that gets spilt on site. A major spill will kill all the bugs, but small amounts are dealt with effectively. It's not genetic engineering in that case but simple breeding of the kind you would use to get a better brewers yeast (ie. seperate out the stuff that can handle higher concentations of alcohol or oil and breed it again).

      Other bacteria are capable of dealing with metals, even copper - lookup "acid mine drainage" and you should find a few things - bacteria which previously caused environmental problems (in simplified terms eat copper and excrete sulphuric acid - that's one mean organism!) can be used to solve others.

      There's lots of odd stuff in organicly produced materials. The strangest I've heard of in the feild of metals is dislocation free iron (very strong stuff) in snails teeth (microscopic spiky bits on their tongues are teeth) in Western Australia.

    2. Re:Like super-algae by BioCS.Nerd · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You have some interesting ideas here I'd like to talk about for a moment.

      More than any nano-tech application (computer nanotech, that is), such a microbe that can be engineered to clean up waste water and then settle to the bottom of a lake and quietly die would be excellent in cleaning up many of our polluted lakes and streams.
      I'm really leery about something like this. In my experience, an extreme of anything is never a good thing. Perchance an overabundance of this bacteria have an effect that makes the lake worse than before. For example, trees are good, but many trees can be bad. More specifically, if you plant too many evergreens in a confined area, the soil becomes exceedingly acidic. I'm more inclined to try to find out how to finesse the lake back to it's normal condition.

      Your next statement is moot, imho, given the time required to compress critters into oil or coal. Hopefully by then our progeny have developed more interesting and efficient means of energy harvesting.

      With small amounts of electrical wiring as byproducts of the "biological" process of the microbe, we may even be able to "harvest" our wiring needs in much the same way we harvest seaweed or shellfish today for consumption.
      This would be seriously cool and is not hard to envision. It'd be really neat if we could engineer the little buggers to poop transistors too.
  4. I wish the press release actually said something.. by under_score · · Score: 5, Interesting

    concrete about the pili themselves. It would be neet to know something about their molecular structure.

    Another thing about this article that hit me: genetic engineering really is going strong. I still think of it in some ways as a future technology. But their description of turning of the genes that result in the pili as well as the idea of manipulating those genes to produce pili with various characteristics really points out a high degree of sophistication in genetic engineering techniques.

  5. Re:Really? by tempest69 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Right now it has apparent feasibility for bioremediation, which should be pretty big on peoples minds. But as for more technilogical/ medical/ anthrocentric uses, it's a building block. at 5 microns X 5 nanometers, it's a bit tough to manipulate by hand. However these might be useful as a product of existing animal nerve cells. Imagine changing neurons to have some "long wires" that would interface with electrodes easier. It might take some work, but it might be worth it. With a little work, it might be easier to have a hormone controlled expression of the "wires", that way you send in a hormone coated electrode, and the neurons would grab on, without being poisoned by the metal.

    Storm

    P.S. IANANTE (I am not a nano-tech engineer)

  6. SPGA by Sheetrock · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I've read about some research into microwire-based sublithographic programmable gate arrays.

    This has some potential for the computer industry in the way of getting us closer to Moore's Law but also paves the way for increasing the amount of malleable logic in what was previously fixed silicon applications.

    Of course, nanowire is pretty expensive to produce. Or it used to be...

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  7. Single Walled Carbon Nanotubes by Shihar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Personally, I would look to single walled carbon nanotubes (SWCNT) for what you describe. The real problem we have is that the body has a nasty habit of rejecting anything that isn't made by our own body. I have a feeling that these organically made wires will be no mored loved then the old fashion kind. The issue isn't organic vs inorganic, it is whether or not the body identifies the wires as not being apart of itself. We have evolved for millions of years to whack bacteria that isn't our own, so I wouldn't but the chances high that our bodies will be terribly receptive (though I would be pleased to be wrong).

    There have been some mixed signals as to weather or not nanotubes are carcinogens.
    The latest studies show that SWCNTs to be non-toxic and easily dealt with by the body. It isn't a green light, but it is hopeful. The real magic behind nanotubes is two fold. First, they are really small. Cells are giants compared to nanotubes. Second, nanotubes can be functionalized relatively easily, which is to say you can attach things to the surface of the nanotubes. When people talk about using nanotubes, they rarely mean those nifty little carbon chains that we all know at love. Generally, functional nanotubes have something else on the surface to specialize its purpose. For biological purposes, this means that what you see isn't necessarily what you have to work with. If these bacteria made nanowires turn out to be rejected by the human body, you are out of luck and the work stops there. With SWCNTs though, it just means you need to alter what type of molecules are hanging off of the carbon chain until you find some that the body won't attack and that don't disrupt the properties of the nanotube too bad.

    Simply put... single walled carbon nanotubes are the shit, err, and the future.