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Windows XP N a Bust

mushupork writes "CNN has an interesting article about the just-released Windows XP N. From the article: 'Computer distributors and manufacturers are so far showing little interest in the new product, which compels consumers to choose their media player and download it from the Internet.' Could this open some eyes and increase interest in alternative (Linux, Mac) offerings?" Similar to an earlier article about the same issue from the PC Makers end.

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  1. Why would it? by XanC · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Could this open some eyes and increase interest in alternative (Linux, Mac) offerings?

    Why would it? I think it'll open their eyes to how much "good" Microsoft's bundling does for them.

    1. Re:Why would it? by IHateSlashDot · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Exactly!

      "We'll continue to sell the old version because it's obviously better value for our customers,"

      The 'N' version was released due to a poorly thought out EU lawsuit. It turns out that no-one wants the new version of XP. They'd rather have the old one that the EU tried so hard to get rid of.

      Shows you how out of touch with reality the EU is.

      Sorry, you can't use this as a poster child for open source.

  2. Only alternative? by moz25 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Would there be a point in ordering that the N version is the only one allowed to be sold in Europe? Obviously, there won't be much interest in a stripped down version of the same product, especially if the old product is still available.

  3. Weren't OEM's B*tching About This w/r/t Browsers? by ewhac · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Hmm. Maybe the OEMs could -- gee, I don't know -- pre-install a media player of their choice. I seem to recall a big criminal lawsuit a while back when OEMs wanted to pre-install this newfangled thing called a Web browser, but Microsoft wouldn't let them.

    Did the OEMs suddenly lose all their imagination? Or are there not as many "partership" opportunities with media players?

    Schwab

  4. No.... by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's because XP-N was the wrong "punishment" to inflict on MSFT.

    People like getting free stuff bundled with things that they buy. At worst, don't use WMP and download something else.

    When you force the removal of the free media player as a court decision, it's the consumers who feel punished. Now they have to go out of their way to get a media player.

    What would have been a better punishment for Microsoft would have been forcing them to open up their APIs and documentation, publish their source code, or split the company up into competing units, or revoke their license to do business.

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  5. Typical /. by fbg111 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Humpty-dumpty sat on a wall and had a great fall. Could this open some eyes and increase interest in alternative (Linux, Mac) offerings?

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  6. Re:I doubt it by defkkon · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Now if you (a slashdot reader/poster) is saying this, imagine what the average joe user is thinking?

    I'm not surprised there is little interest in this. Many manufacturers realize what their customers care about - after all, that's why they're still in business.

    You ask the average person whether they want Windows XP with or without Media Player to allow a free choice, and they'll probably look at you like you have two heads.

    Why? They don't care! They hardly care what OS they have PERIOD. All they want is for their office applications to work, for their email application to work, and their web browser to work.

    Not only do they not care, but the moment they try to listen to an audio file or watch a video, they're going to be pissed that their computer "can't do it" out of the box.

  7. This really was a pointless act by the EU by cloudturtle · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm not one to back M$, especially around here, but this whole Windows N thing just seems stupid. The EU doesn't like Media Player being coupled with the OS, so they make MS release a version of the OS sans MP, BUT then they still allow the old version to be sold AND they are the same price.

    I don't know, maybe i have taken too many Econ classes, but this seems like it is a horribly inefficient punishment that will solve absolutely nothing -- hell it won't even give them those warm fuzzies you get from doing the right thing because it isn't the right thing.

    The bottom line is that no rational consumer -- TFA mentioned like 2 people that this would not apply to -- would buy this version of windows. Sorry EU but you really missed the boat (or chunnel as it may be) on this one.

  8. New meme? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny


    Humpty-dumpty sat on a wall and had a great fall. Could this open some eyes and increase interest in alternative (Linux, Mac) offerings?

    This could be the next slashdot meme.

    Step 1. Repeat the headline

    Step 2. Append "Could this open some eyes and increase interest in alternative (Linux, Mac) offerings?".

    Example: New Independent Lego Journal Launches. Could this open some eyes and increase interest in alternative (Linux, Mac) offerings?

  9. Hmmm... by aardwolf64 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Note to self...
    1. Browse old story at +5 Funny
    2. Post +5 Funny comments here verbatim
    3. Watch Karma go through the roof
    4. ???
    5. Profit!

    1. Re:Hmmm... by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But funny mods make yourself and others smile.

      I will take that over karma any day :)

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  10. Re:ARGH! by Khuffie · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Apple bundles iTunes and Quicktime with OS X. Does this not "stiffle innovation" nd decrease competition in the Mac market? In fact, there's a serious lack of a decent alternative to iTunes for OS X: ie an regular good ol' winamp-like MP3 player, and a lack of a decent alternative to Quicktime (VLC doesn't count, im talking things like Zoom Player).

    On the Windows front, there's a whole wackload of alternatives for Windows Media Player that goes on and on and on. In that respect, there's no decent photo viewer other than iPhoto (Picasa is there for PC), no decent consumer video editor other than iMovie (plenty for PC) and so on and so forth. No one has competed with Apple on this front. Why? Because it's their by default? Why isn't Apple getting sued?

    Ya ya, because Apple is not a "monopoly" you say. But guess what? If Microsoft was *forced* to strip Windows Media Player/Internet Explorer/MSN Messenger and all their other additions, then why shouldn't Apple be forced to strip Quicktime/Safari/iChat/iPhoto/iMovie/iTunes from OS X? After all, it would give them an unfair advantage. They can start marketing that they have all these great features right out of the box while Windows only comes with Notepad.

    Suffice to say Microsoft is doing absolutely nothing to stop others from installing other browsers/media players or whatever people want. So Real Player has every opportunity to gather attention, and in fact their player used to be quite popular. Then it started to be spyware ridden, over-bloated interface and horribly slow player, and they lost it.