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O'Reilly Builds a MythTV Box

enrico_suave writes "While the Broadcast Flag battle continues, it's still legal to put together your own HDTV PC HTPC/PVR. O'Reilly has posted part 1 in a series of articles describing the ins and outs of Building a MythTV Box" From the article: "For now, the good news is that it is still legal to put together your own home-theater PC. Parts are now cheap enough that it is no longer ridiculous to build a PC specifically to handle TV for you, much like the VCR in Douglas Adams's Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency..."

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  1. Legal/illegal? by daniil · · Score: 4, Insightful
    For now, the good news is that it is still legal to put together your own home-theater PC.

    Bah. The broadcast flag will not make it illegal for you to build your own home-theater. How could they stop you from doing it? You just won't be able to record (or watch?) anything.

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  2. I'm too lazy by udderly · · Score: 4, Informative

    Given the good enough performance and price ($5/month) of my Tivo, I just can't justify the time and effort. My brother-in-law (aka the King of DIY) made one and he is constantly wrenching that thing.

    1. Re:I'm too lazy by AuMatar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There's a couple reasons to want to go DIY. Its not for everyone, but here they are:

      1)I hate monthly fees. I refuse to pay them. I'd rather pay $100 up front than5 a month in fees.

      2)Expandability. Want more RAM or another encoder? DIY just add it. Tivo- time to buy another Tivo

      3)No comercials- Tivo is playing with adding commercials. My number 1 reason for buying one would be to kill commercials.

      4)More (and easily expandable) storage. Add a RAID for reliability.

      5)Additional features. You can pull any new feature when you want, and Myth is more than just a DVR (MythPhone, MythGames, etc)

      6)The ability to do illegal stuff- like rent DVDs, and rip them to your hard drive for permanent sorage.

      7)The ability to network it and add a file server. You may now watch your movie collection anywhere.

      8)The ability to use 1 program for all media- music, video, and images.

      9)No loss of features- you won't see disappearing features like 30 second skip.

      I'm sure there's others people come up with as well. Tivo is nice hardware, but given the fact its subscription based and they're playing with commercials, its a no deal for me.

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  3. Systm's Video How To by Noksagt · · Score: 5, Informative

    Systm had a video how-to of building a MythTV box. Having seen the short segment (and having assembled a PVR before it), I am surprised that the article is "Part 1."

  4. It is just you...with quote by Noksagt · · Score: 5, Informative
    The Electric Monk was a labour-saving device, like a dishwasher or a video recorder. Dishwashers washed tedious dishes for you, thus saving you the bother of washing them yourself, video recorders watched tedious television for you, thus saving you the bother of looking at it yourself; Electric Monks believed things for you, thus saving you what was becoming an increasingly onerous task, that of believing all the things the world expected you to believe.
    Douglas Adams is definitely fair-game for geek-speak. His writings are even well-read by non-geeks.
  5. Typical O'Reilly Standards ; Commercial mass-marke by victorhooi · · Score: 5, Interesting
    What I'm really waiting for is the O'Reilly "MythTV in a Nutshell", or "MythTv Hacks"...now that would be sweet...

    Until then, I'm stuck with consulting the massive tome of Myth links I've collected over the years, half of which are out-of-date, or unmaintained (although the official docs are a good effort). Would be nice if O'Reilly brought their professionalism to it.

    One thing I've never figured out - why aren't there more companies mass-marketting and selling these? How come say, Phillips or some other company hasn't picked this up and prettified it to sell to the end consumer who's never heard of Linux? (It's not like companies haven't taken Linux and put it inside devices to sell to the "Just Works" crowd - all that embedded stuff, for example, a lot of routers/firewall products etc.)

    Looking at the article, I'd have to say it rates 5 out of 5 - truly up to O'Reilly's normal standards - well set out, doesn't talk down to users, and pretty pictures...*in colour* (man...talk about innovation...I have *never* seen a colour O'Reilly article/book...althought since this is /., I give it 5 mins before somebody finds one, in some random alternative universe somewhere).

  6. Very odd coincidence... by millennial · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm currently building a MythTV system on a P4 1.5GHz. I've got it running pretty well so far in Gentoo under EvilWM. The instructions I'm trying to follow are here. They're pretty complete, and even though they don't match my setup exactly, I've only run into a couple hiccups so far. It involves using Zap2It or XMLTV to download the listings, setting up your IR remote, configuring X, and more. I highly suggest using it if you want to set up your own MythTV box.

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  7. Read Jarod's HOWTO by bitdamaged · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Everyone eelse has and it worked for me.
    http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/

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  8. Re:Why? by Leiterfluid · · Score: 4, Funny

    No-Spin MythTV.

    Sweet.

  9. Bill O'Reilly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bill O'Reilly: Linus, haven't you... I mean... let's take it from the top here. You make a program, for lack of a better term, that enables people to use computers without paying for any software whatsoever. Isn't that considered illegal in the court system? Isn't that piracy by any modern standard?

    Linus: Well, the system is an operating system that is maintained by many people. I just make the kernel. The userland is built by academics ar...

    Bill O'Reilly: Wait a second! Wait a second! You are saying that academics build this, and trying to give it away for nothing, for the purpose of running commercial entities out of business?

    Linus: No, that's not true at all... we build software to give it away to anyb...

    Bill O'Reilly: And what's this I hear about writing software to enable pirating of television programs? You understand that we have men and women, DYING OVERSEAS, to protect our way of life, and our way of life is CAPITALISM... where's the logic in what you are doing?

    Linus: Bill, I don't think it's a matter of capitalism but rath...

    Bill O'Reilly: Awwww come on! COME ON! You're just... you know, you smug academics elites are all alike. You just want to take and take and take... and give away at the expense of the America pulbic! Well, I'll tell you -- we AIN'T buying it on the Factor. We ain't buying it one bit. And if you're smart, you'll wise up... next up on the Factor, some people claim that liberals eat live human fetuses. We'll investigate and show you how they're right and what you can do to stop it.

  10. heh... by Mad_Rain · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In my recent quest to build a MythTV box, I have discovered that building the system is not the difficult part. The challenge has been to get MythTV running smooth and stable.

    [rant mode ON]
    I think that it's a terrific project, I just wish that there was a little more consensus and standards between all these different components for the project. MythTV's compile reference system is Debian. The drivers for the HD-3000 are Red Hat/Fedora. Knoppmyth, Gentoo, Ubuntu, Mandriva, all seem to have their little quirks - can't we all just get along? ;)
    [rant mode OFF]

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  11. KnoppMyth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    For those impatient, there is KnoppMyth - a Knoppix based Live CD that runs MythTV. Link here It looks good, but it doesn't run so well on my P3 450 Mhz. ;-)