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Amazon Patents User Viewing Histories
Chris Cleveland writes "Yet another astounding patent from the USPTO. I was browsing the patent database, and discovered that Amazon received a patent today on using customer viewing histories to generate recommendations. If a customer views product A, and then later views product B, and you use that to infer a relationship between A and B, then you've infringed on this patent. This patent is a continuation of an earlier patent (#6,317,722) on using shopping carts to generate recommendations. When will this stupidity end?"
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A. One, against BN.com
... software patent?
why doesn't slashdot print a story for every google or transmeta or
Some patents filed are pretty general and can be summed up in a few words like "using customer viewing histories to generate recommendations." This particular patent, however, is not all that general and is actually very detailed, yet broad.
It details not only the weighting system used to generate the recommendations (recently purchased + highly rated = higher weight), in the same category, but in other store areas as well. It weights differently based upon whether an item is placed in the cart, searched for, placed on the wish list, bid on in online auction(?), purchased as a gift, or merely favorably reviewed.
So, Amazon is basically saving their customer's viewing/browsing tendencies as data. Now, they've patented the usage of this data to generate more sales. It seems like a good idea to me.
and now back to the fallout shelter...
I actually have a direct example of prior art that pre-dates this patent by over 2 years. Back in 1999, whilst working with Broadvision in both the UK and US, I was involved in a number of projects that implemented the exact method described in the patent.
Getting this absurd patent overthrown would be absolute child's play for anyone familiar with mapping taxonomy systems to observation logging and user ratings, which were common practice for anyone using systems such as Broadvision back in the late 90s.
At the time the patent was filed, it was extremely uncommon for systems to make automatic recommendations based solely on the behavior of users. When I did my work at Alexa Internet (which was acquired by Amazon) in the late 90s, I had to solve a number of issues which had not been dealt with, both from an engineering perspective and from a quality of results perspective -- few companies, and no academic researchers that I am aware of -- had both the amount of data and the technical talent required to process it in order to test and refine recommendation systems based on transactional information.
My work in this area became Amazon's "customers who shopped for X also shopped for Y feature." Greg Linden, the first name on this patent, is now doing interesting recommendation work with his site Findory.
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Welcome to the real world and the economic engine that is capitalism.
The world you live in has nothing to do with capitalism anymore.
Capitalism was, MAYBE, present during 1950-60's, but what people are experiencing now is something so deformed it needs a new name.
I have YET to purchase a single thing from Amason. Their prices (especially on nerd-type books) aren't that good anyway. I get mine from Nerdbooks.com. The services is always very good, and prices are outstanding.
Prices aside, I will NOT support a company that continues to rape the meaning of the word "innovation" by patenting rediculously obvious methods.
www.play.com have had this for ages (possibly years).
Big deal.
Look, the public pay for the patent beyond the filing fee - we restrict ourselves voluntarily and we also pay for the enforcement of the patent. So, what do we get in return with this patent? Would Amazon not have done it? No. Would they have been able to keep it secret? No.
So we got bugger all.
Last time I heard, patent application was around $10k per country and around $100k for worldwide filing.
Filing a patent in any country prevents anyone else from filing the same patent in all others but only provides legal enforcement in the countries where the patent was was filed. In most cases, inventors can file in other countries as necessary to extend legal protection but doing it incrementally can quickly cost more than an international filing.
(This is what I was told at a conference about a year or two ago.)
Ugh, Incorrect apostophe use detected.
"A lot of school's don't teach this side of technology to their students"
What is the school posessing in your sentence?
Please do not post on slashdot until you have completed our short course, "Apostophe 101"
APOSTROPHE 101
Module 1: Possessives
In English, possession is usually indicated by adding an apostrophe - s to the end of a noun.
e.g. John's car
Module 2: Plurals
In English, a plural is usually indicated by adding an s to the end of a noun
e.g. John's car has five wheels.
Module 3: Contractions
In English an apostrophe is often inserted to represent missing letters
e.g. John's car has five wheels. The fifth wheel's in the trunk, though
or John's not counting the steering wheel in this analysis, by the way.
Here the missing letter is the letter "i" - i.e., "The fifth wheel is in the trunk, though" or "John is not counting the steering wheel..."
Module 4: The exceptions
1) Nouns that end in an s can indicate plurals or possessives with the addition of an apostrophe
e.g. "Thomas' bicycle has but two wheels", rather than the utterly agonizing "Thomas's Bicycle...".
2) Usually, its is only apostrophised to indicate the contraction of "it is"
e.g. The law was rejected because of its ambiguity. It's quite likely that it will be revised and reintroduced at the next session.
But this changes when "It" serves duty as a proper noun:
"The high spot of the Adams Family convention was the costume pageant. I counted about 200 Morticias, 180 Gomez' and 89 Cousin Its. I'd forgotten how long Cousin It's hair was"
And the people shall be oppressed, every one by another, and every one by his neighbour Isaiah 3:5
tough tarts, all amazon has to do is claim prior art and that company can sit and spin. No need to get your own patent on it.
.GIF format on the WWW, and had legitimate reason to argue against Unisys's claim to own the patent due to the doctrine of equivalents applying to essentially everything.
;) And Nokia, and Ebay, American Eagle, etc.
I know a patent lawyer that would disagree, and actually proposes "patent first" on items in order to protect companies from getting burned. In fact, he worked with several mid-size companies when Unisys went nutty. Several of these companies were the first to use the
This patent was filed so amazon could prevent competition from using this "technology". It's got nothing to do with protecting itself from lawsuits and everything to do with amazon reserving the right to sue others.
He works for Amazon.
by X.25 (255792) on Wednesday June 29, @12:14AM (#12938756)
Welcome to the real world and the economic engine that is capitalism.
The world you live in has nothing to do with capitalism anymore.
Capitalism was, MAYBE, present during 1950-60's, but what people are experiencing now is something so deformed it needs a new name.
Nah, the old word plutocracy works perfectly well.