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Cometary Fireworks Go Off Without Hitch

PingXao writes "The JPL Deep Impact mission has successfully slammed a sattelite into Tempel 1 at 23,000 mph. (37,000 kph). The autonomous navigation system was primed for up to 3 course corrections in the final 2 hours of flight but only had to execute two of them. The second was so small - expending less than a pound of propellant - that impact would have occurred without it. Initially thought to be shaped like a pickle, it came to resemble more of a banana shape as comet Tempel I drew closer. Impact was estimated to have released 19 Gigajoules of energy, or the equivalent of 4.5 tons of TNT."

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  1. A mini-animation by RobotWisdom · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just because no one else has, yet: inept animated gif

    1. Re:A mini-animation by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 5, Informative

      Also a pretty cool, official NASA Quicktime movie from the impactor's camera - kind of wobbly and jerky, but nifty nevertheless.

      I think it contains what are by far the best, and closest pictures of a comet nucleus - and I've no idea if it's from 'final' data yet. I gather there's a lot left to download from the flyby probe, but was it a Huygens-Cassini style relay setup or was impactor data received directly on Earth? If it's the latter, I suppose there isn't much chance of retrieving any more of the close-up data, as the delicate hardware stuck to the impactor's copper mass must have made quite a splat... ;-)

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  2. Re:4.5Kt, surely? by BenjyD · · Score: 5, Informative

    1 tonne of TNT = 4.184 x 10^9 joule = 4.184 Gigajoules/tonne

    19/4.184 ~ 4.5 tonnes TNT

    TNT has a lot of energy :-)

  3. Re:4.5Kt, surely? by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 4, Informative

    btw: The pictures are just breathtaking... on them it really looks like 4.5kt (which is a testemony of the amazing light collection power of current telescopes and quantum efficiency of CCD arrays)

    I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the apparent 'explosion' visible in the images is due to sunlight illuminating the plume of dust produced by the impact. Comet nuclei are pretty dark, so I suppose the exposure times were probably cranked right up to see anything of the nucleus itself.

    This is all guesswork, of course, but I remember a similar explanation of the 'explosions' visible when the Shoemaker Levy 9 comet fragments hit Jupiter. Mankind has kind of built our own tiny version of that!

    Of course, the above could all be utterly incorrect... :-)

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  4. Re:Insides on the outside by bloodredsun · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's not the explosion that detects the presence of organic compounds but the observations you can make about the generated blast debris. Either mid or infra-red spectroscopy or radio emissions reveal what compounds are present by their signatures.

    Think CSI in space :-)

  5. Re:And the real question is ... by kfg · · Score: 4, Informative

    don't you need a gas to record sound?

    Nope, you need a medium to transmit vibrations. Whales do just fine with a fluid, in fact a fluid is better, because it's denser. More molecules in closer contact. They "talk" to each other across hundreds of miles using low frequencies. That would be the whales. Molecules don't talk. They don't even "talk." Don't anthropomorphize molecules. They hate that.

    Solids work great too. A microphone on the probe would have recorded a sound.

    A microphone next to the probe would not, because because an insufficiently dense medium, like a gas, to carry the vibration.

    KFG

  6. And, of course, In Russia the comet hits _you_ by Snowhare · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, really: Tunguska, June 30th 1908. :)

  7. Re:i'm being picky, but... by Cecil · · Score: 3, Informative

    You are absolutely wrong. Gasses are fluids. Fluid is a term used to describe both gasses and liquids. Surface tension is unique to liquids. It has nothing to do with being a fluid.

    Definition:

    fluid
    n.

    A continuous, amorphous substance whose molecules move freely past one another and that has the tendency to assume the shape of its container; a liquid or gas.

  8. Re:Where are the Stars in the pictures? by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Informative
    Simple answer - "Its dead, Jim".

    Pedantic answer: orbit == complete circuit. It didn't do even half an orbit http://deepimpact.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/factsheet-t ext.html

    To say it was orbiting around the sun when it didn't even go half-way would be like me saying I walked around the block when I just went to the corner, or that Alan Shepards sub-orbital flight was an "orbit". What it did was sub-orbital.

    Definition http://www.answers.com/orbit&r=67

    1. The path of a celestial body or an artificial satellite as it revolves around another body.

    2. One complete revolution of such a body.
    Now, it might be nit-picking, but it didn't "revolve around" any body - its "orbit" was really just an arc that started and completed in under 1 revolution. If it had taken 1 or more revolutions to complete the mission, then you could have said it had, in fact, orbited the sun. Pedantic, but wtf, this is slashdot, and this is the sort of "angels on a pinhead" argument that gets people to bite :-)
  9. Re:And now in terms you're familiar with by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Informative
    1 Kcal = 4186 J
    1 Snickers contains 280 Kcal = 1172080 J = 0.00117208 GJ
    19 / 0.00117208 ~ 16210.5 Snickers

    So the amount of energy released is the equivalent of about 16.2 Megasnickers.

    Hmmm ... that looks like 16 thousand ... wouldn't that be Kilosnickers??

    Megasnickers-level detonations are still a few years away with current technology. ;-P

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  10. Re:JPL Media types, please read this by dlevitan · · Score: 5, Informative

    You obviously don't know what's going on. First of all, most of the data has not been received yet. Its still being transmitted to NASA from the probe. Right now we're only getting low res pictures because that's all that's been sent. The priority right now is data gathering, not data transmittal.
    Second, automated image enhancement is pointless. As an amateur photographer, I know that each picture needs to be optimized manually, and using automatic settings often works, but not always. You'll get good pictures, but not 12 hours after impact. Plus I'm sure much of what they received wasn't good anyway and had to be thrown out.
    Third, you obviously don't know the complexity of these projects. Most of the public doesn't really care about the low resolution pictures - they'll see the high res pictures when they're broadcast by the media. Which means that there's no point for NASA to deal with the 0.1% of the public who think they deserve to get access to those pictures.
    Fourth, I'm really rather insulted by your pompous attitude regarding the people at NASA. No, I don't work at NASA. Nor can I call myself a scientist yet. But I'm an undergraduate physics major and so far my plans are to go on to grad school. Right now I'm spending the summer at the biggest NSF-funded project (not hard to figure out which one it is) and I will tell you that the people who run the project are brilliant and have no time to deal with whiners like you. If you really wanted to work on these kinds of missions, why didn't you dedicate your life to science instead of just whining about how you don't have access to all the data. Because I doubt you can figure out much from the data, and I find your arrogance to be purely insulting.

  11. It sure does orbit by everphilski · · Score: 3, Informative

    Think about it from the frame of reference of the sun. The earth is orbiting the earth. Now this little copper thing the size of an oil barrel (the impactor) and the satellite leave earth orbit **just barely** by increasing its velocity beyond the velocity of the earth. That is, escaping earth's gravitational well. From the point of view of the sun, the impactor and satellite are still orbiting it. It doesnt matter if it did complete an orbit. Unimpeded it would have.

    Second point of view: the velocity of the impactor was less than the escape velocity required to escape orbit from the sun. Therefore it had to be orbiting the sun.

    Not to mention, astrophysicists and rocket scientists will routinely refer to hyperbolic orbits as orbits, even though they will never complete a revolution. In fact, at infinite time they will approach 180 degrees. But it is perfectly acceptable to consider this an orbit. (consult Brown, "Elements of Spacecraft Design" or any orbital mechanics text)

    Who gives a rip about answers.com ... ask a real rocket scientist or astrophysicist. That's the problem with you whipersnappers nowadays... ;)

    IAAAE (I am an Aerospace Engineer)

    -everphilski-