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Longhorn Preview

itraor writes "PC World has previewed Longhorn, not the first one out I guess. Among the few noted features is that Windows now offers translucent UI, finally catching up with Apple. "

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  1. Oh my God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That interface is more cluttered and garish than go.com, or some other failed late-90s "web portal". I'm used to trying to help users who wind up with some kind of mental block against using the start menu because every time they click on the start menu they're so overwhelmed with confusing options and information they don't understand that it's more than they can hendle. I guess I should preemptively get used to helping users who wind up with a similar mental block against using the windows file browser.

    I thought, when I first saw that Mac OS X release, that no one would ever make a clumsier, more overdesigned OS theme. Microsoft seems to be doing their absolute best to prove me wrong with every single release, reaching new heights of gangly ugliness with first "luna", then "avalon"...

  2. Re:Logo by sg3000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    > Really, finally, a transparent UI you can be bored with in 10
    > minutes and put back to being opaque. Such innovation!

    Maybe, but luckily your boredom will be cured two minutes after that.

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  3. Everything is just "piled on" by Peter+Cooper · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I agree with the parent. There seems to be no real cohesion to the new theme. Everything just seems to be bundled on top of each other. If these were the first Longhorn screenshots out, that'd be fine.. but we've been seeing the same for a year now.

    In the screenshots it appears there's no difference made between menus and toolbars anymore.. the menus just kinda blur into them. Icons are different sizes. Different sized toolbars just smudge into each other and look messy. There seems to be no thought put into it.

    Microsoft never ceases to amaze me. The company has billions of dollars (and they don't get it by writing checks I know) but they supposedly have some of the "best minds" out there.. and yet their products and interfaces are so scrappy? I know being Microsoft isn't easy.. they've got to be compatible, they've got lots of products to integrate.. lots of hardware to support.. but heck, can't they at least get decent interface design? It's not like it's a billion dollar job. Even people working for nothing, like the xfce people, do a better job.

  4. Re:Logo by cybersaga · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The review discussess little besides the eye candy.

    That's because there wasn't anything else to talk about. From TFA:
    "But it doesn't yet exhibit any breakthroughs in productivity, or promised features such as security improvements and smarter connections to handheld devices."

    Everyday, Longhorn seems to be more like XP with a new look.

  5. Walk before you can run by mcc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Personally, given my experiences with linux so far, if it were up to me I'd concentrate more on building a GUI where you can change the monitor resolution to the resolution you want when you want it on arbitrary systems, without having to ever edit a file named "XF86Config".

  6. Transclucent UI in windows by Arthur+B. · · Score: 5, Informative

    wtf... alpha blending has been around natively in windows since W2K. It wasn't used but it was there and many mods allowed context menu to set windows transparency.

    o x-composite is still slow like hell...
    o e17 will us software blending...

    *sigh*

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  7. Re:Finally catching up with Apple... by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Finally catching up with Apple in 3 to 5 more years."

    Linux: Finally catching up to Windows... in 3 to 5 more years!!!!

    (note: If you're about to mod that as troll, lighten up.)

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  8. Mystery of the computer industry by file-exists-p · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is one thing I can't understand: why is Windows so ugly ? Why are non-Apple computers so ugly (yes, Sony's and IBM's PCs are ugly too) ? Why are MP3 players so ugly ?

    Is it really that high-tech firms are full of dorks without any taste ? Is the difference with Apple the fact that Steve Jobs decides, and the guy actually has good taste ?

    I am not joking, this is really something that puzzles me.

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  9. sounds like the upgrade from Win95 to Win98 by Cheeze · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's see,

    minimal new features? check.
    lots of hype about features that won't be included? check.
    said hyped features to be included later? check.
    main upgrade is fancy windowing? check.
    requires more cpu/ram? check.

    One big advantage Longhorn has is the addition of DRM. I say advantage because this basically gives MS rights to control what software is on your computer. The advantage is theirs, not yours. What does DRM bring for the customer?

    I don't really see a reason to upgrade. Of course, most of the people that adopt new operating systems don't actually buy the new operating system, they buy a computer and get what's forced upon them. Eventually everyone will upgrade when MS DRM model decides anything older than Longhorn is an unregistered piece of software. Just wait, it's coming.

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  10. catch up to Apple's OS X by sxmjmae · · Score: 5, Informative

    Article Summary:

    - Windows is catch up to Apple's OS X.
    - All the features that would sell an OS upgrade have been pulled to meet the release date.
    - Same as XP with a kewler user interface.
    - Only advantage over Apple's OS X is the hardware support.

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  11. Re:RE Apple by koi88 · · Score: 5, Funny


    I don't remember the last time microsoft showed ANY innovation of its own. anyone?

    Clippy?

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