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EU Says No To Software Patents

Moggie68 writes "European parliament has . struck down the proposal for a directive that would have brought US-style software patents into EU." Here's another story on the decision.

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  1. Victory! by Christian+Engstrom · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This is almost a total victory for the opponents of software patents.

    The patent lobby tried to sneak in software patents through the back door, by claiming that it was only about harmonization, that the directive wouldn't change anything, etc, etc. They failed.

    The issue has led to the most intensive lobbying campaign ever in Brussels (from both sides). Whatever their position on the issue "as such" may be, there is not a single member of the European Parliament who now thinks that this is "just a small technical matter that can safely be left to the patent experts to decide on".

    If the patent lobby wants to continue working for the legalization of patents on software and business methods (and they will), they will have to engage in a serious debate about the benefit/harm of such patents. And since they don't really have any arguments that can stand scrutiny in daylight, they will have a very difficult time.

    Sure, the FFII would have preferred a directive that reaffirmed the ban on software patents in Article 52 of the European Patent Convention, and led to greater harmonization in Europe. Alas, that didn't happen, because the patent lobby got cold feet and preferred to kill the directive rather than risk a vote in Parliament that they would probably have lost.

    But at least we didn't get a bad directive that wiped out Article 52 and forced national parliaments to introduce software patents against their will. The situation now is that software patents are illegal in Europe (as they always have been according to the EPC), but that we still have a European Patent Office that needs to be reined in so that it starts to follow the law.

    But the law remains unchanged, and computer programs and methods of doing business are not considered patentable inventions.

    Today was a great day in the battle for a free and open information infrastructure, and for a favorable business environment in Europe for enterprises that use or produce software.

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    Christian Engström, Former Member of the European Parliament 2009-2014 for The Pirate Party, Sweden
  2. Note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Although this definitely counts as a victory, it's not the best of all possible outcomes.
    That would have been having the right amendments accepted, turning a bad law into a good one. (And having the law in place for all of the EU would have meant that it'd be impossible for the big software lobby to still push this through in individual countries, something which they're now likely to try.)

    The battle has been won, but the war is far from over.

  3. Unfortunately... by Transcendent · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The individual countries can still regulate their own software patents, and this measure only made it so there is no EU wide guideline for sw patents.

    What we really need is a directive to *ban* software patents on the EU level...

  4. Not quite by James_Duncan8181 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The fact that the law was rejected rather then modified means that the existing patents are still in a legal grey area - look forward to a lot of pressure being put on national governements to pass legislation.

    The UK PTO in particular has quite a hard on for patenting, and it is a UK Labour MEP who has been pushing hardest for patents.

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  5. Wow. by colonslashslash · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The vote to scrap the bill was passed by a margin of 648 votes to 14, with 18 abstentions.

    That's a pretty big majority. To be honest, I expected the bill to slip through, or at least be a pretty close call either way based on what people have been telling me about the responses they have recieved from their MEPs.

    I realise this wasn't really the best outcome, but it's a damn sight better than seeing that brutal directive sneak it's way into EU law.

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    1. Re:Wow. by horza · · Score: 5, Interesting

      To be honest, I expected the bill to slip through, or at least be a pretty close call either way based on what people have been telling me about the responses they have recieved from their MEPs.

      I have received replies from every MP I have written to.

      Dr Caroline Lucas (Green Party) - against the legislation, and mentions Richard Stallman and Alan Cox.

      Daniel Hannan (Conservative) - for the legislation, claiming problems in US are exagerated and there is little evidence of large companies using patents against smaller ones

      Nirj Deva Dl (Conservative) - for the legislation, though at the end states he will insist on a 3 year 'review' clause

      Edwards McMillan-Scott (Conservative) - for the legislation, repeating many points above. States that the legislation does not affect the development of open source software.

      Nigel Farage (Independence Party) - against the legislation, saying it benefits multi-nationals over the SMEs.

      Ashley Mote (independent candidate) - against the legislation. Strong words and even if the legislation passes he suggests battling it through UK parliament.

      Peter Skinner (Labour) - against the legislation. Very well informed as to EU parliamentary positions and he VERY clearly states why Labour is against software patents. Talks about Open Source, and even says he is supporting a UK campaign for a defense fund to protect small companies from litigation abuse by "dominant market players".

      So it appears from my responses that the Conservative party are for software patents, and everyone else against. Can anyone else who received replies from their MPs attach a summary below mine. It will provide a useful resource for which way to vote at the next European parliamentary elections.

      Phillip.

  6. The black list? by EiZei · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anybody got a list of those MEPs who voted in favour of this? Just want to make sure there are no familiar names.

    Too bad the EU constitution was rejected, it would have given more power to parliament instead of the comission which is composed of appointed bureaucrats instead of elected representatives.

  7. Politics do work! (sometmes) by Martz · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I sent an e-mail to my MP using http://www.writetothem.com/ and received a personalised letter on House of Commons letter header paper. My MP is Michael Jack and this is his response (typed out for your visal digestion):

    Dear Mr Palastanga,

    Thank you so much for your email of 21 June and for the care that you have taken to lay out in clear terms your concerns about the application of patent law within the European Union to software.

    The picture you paint has a parallel. In, for example, the radio telecommunications business there are numerous examples of multinational companies who have attempted to control the development of new standards in the industry to the detriment of small innovative European based companies who, as you rightly observe, are the engine rooms of new concepts and technologies.

    I will certainly make representations on your behalf both at a national and European level to alert key decision makers to your concerns and seek their assurances that in future work in this area they will fully reflect upon the very important points you raise in your email. As soon I as I have further news I will, of course, write to you again.

    Yours sincerely

    The Rt Hon Michael Jack MP

    OK, sure, I didn't personally stop the directive - but I have a little faith restored in politics now I have had a personal response from a real MP. Well done to all of the FOSS projects, developers and end users who have helped raise awareness about Software Patents.

    WOO HOO!
  8. RTFD by naich · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The common position document on the directive states:
    "Differences exist in the protection of computer-implemented inventions offered by the administrative practices and case law of the different member states"
    and then
    "Therefore, the legal rules governing the patentability of computer-implemented inventions should be harmonised so as to ensure that the resulting legal certainty and the level of requirements demanded for patentability enable innovative enterprised to derive the maximum advantage from their inventive process and provide an incentive for investment and innovation"
    The original idea was a good one. As originally amended, the directive harmonised the various country's positions on software patents by ruling them out in no uncertain terms. However, it got hijacked by the software patent lobby who "un-amended" it to allow the possibility of software patents back in.
  9. Democracy in the EU by wflynn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The council is composed of the ministers of each member states. So to say it is undemocratic is the same as saying the elected governments in each state is undemocratic.

    The commission is more like the civil service in member states, it's members are apointed by the member states governments. I do not know of any country where the civil service is elected. This is why the commission hasn't been given the powers to bring in laws on its own, with out the aproval of the council and the European parliment.

    The EU is as (or more) democratic than it's member states. The bigest problem is some times goverments say one thing at home and vote the oposite in Europe and then try to say Europe is imposing something on them.

  10. Doesn't that make the patents toothless? by swillden · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The European Patent Convention from the 80s already prohibits patents on "programs for computers". The catch is that the EPO doesn't follow it, although it should.

    Doesn't that provide a slam-dunk defense for anyone accused of infringing a software patent? It seems that if you were sued for infringement you could just point out to the court that the patent was erroneously issued. After a couple such cases, the precedent would be firmly established and future defendants would hardly have to do more than show up.

    Further, it would seem to deter holders of such invalid patents from pressing their claims, because pressing a claim would just get the patent invalidated. Since a valid but unenforceable patent is a (very) little bit more useful than an invalidated patent, holders would have to think twice about filing "harassment" suits that they know they'll lose.

    Obviously, it would be better if the EPO didn't issue those patents.

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  11. Tripple and quadruple indirect democracy by Per+Abrahamsen · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The council consist of ministers from the local governments, who are appointed by the prime minister, who are elected by a majority of the parliament, whose members are elected by the people.

    The commission consists of people apointed by the local governments.

    In both cases the best we can hope for is a tripple indirect democracy.

    This is ok as long as the directly elected representives can propose and reject legislation. This is the case in the national parliaments, but in the EU parliament they cannot propose legislation, and the rules have deliberately made it very difficult for them to reject legislation. This is actually the first time the parliament have managed to get enough votes to reject a law.

  12. So now leverage this result in the US by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Now that this directive has been defeated, now is the time to write congress and get them to think - if the EU has voted against this, perhaps it's time they take alook at our own system and engage in reform.

    Especially if presented as a case for helping small businesses (the engine that drives the economy) it seems like at least a few people in congress would be willing to champion a second look at the mess we have today, when presented with some rational arguments why they might want to roll back the power of software patents as they stand.

    This further helps the EU as well, as it turns the battle into one of multiple fronts instead of just letting pro-patent people focus on the EU until they break.

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