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DVD-Audio's CPPM Circumvented
Bodysurf writes "After DVD-Video's CSS encryption was broken in 1999, the music industry chose a much more secure copy-protection method for DVD-Audio called Copy Protection for PreRecorded Media (CPPM). This protection scheme has remained publicly uncracked, but it was circumvented recently, providing the ability to save the unencrypted digital audio data. CDFreaks has the details."
We deserve our free use.
And we will take it by any and all means.
RTFA again for the best results.
What was that saying?
"To view it, we have to decrypt them. If we can decrypt them, we can rip them."
The only "secure" media format is a CD laminated between two plates of steel.
Hilary Rosen's speech was about her love of money and her desire to roll around naked in a pile of money.
"For every lock there is a key"
Gotta love fair use!
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I bet in another 5 years, they'll come out with some ultra-new technology that is REALLY crackproof.
Its like Tide... its new and improved? You mean there are people STILL working on Tide? (Yeah I know, Seinfeld!)
And they said zombies weren't real!
Probably nobody uses DVD-Audio. The effort spent cracking the copy protection will be proportional to the popularity of the medium. When the DVD Audio section at your local record store is as large as the CD section, we may see some more time being spent on such things.
DVD-Audio's CPPM can be got around with a WinDVD patch
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Posted by Seán Byrne on 06 July 2005 - 09:50 - Source: Rarewares
When DVD-Video's encryption had been broken about 6 years back, the next generation of the Audio CD, DVD-Audio had been delayed for several months. It was originally to use the CSS2 encryption scheme, but the breaking of CSS meant the music industry no longer wanted anything to do with CSS in the new upcoming DVD-Audio format at the time. As a result, DVD-Audio took on Content Protection for Pre-recorded Media (CPPM), a much more advanced copy-protection system, which includes Key Blocks and watermarking and allows revocation (for compromised devices).
It was not long ago that DVD-Audio playback software came to the PC. For example Creative's SoundBlaster Audigy 2 comes with a DVD-Audio as well as WinDVD's DVD-Audio add-on. So, rather than try to compromise the DVD-Audio's encryption itself, someone has succeeded in making a patch that uses WinDVD to perform the decryption and playback, but instead pipes the decrypted audio output to the hard drive instead of the sound card. The patch which includes several tools requires WinDVD 5, 6 or 7 to work.
Several tools to work with DVD-Audio (read: ripping)
They require WinDVD 5, 6 or 7 installed, as they don't do the decryption themselves, and instead patch WinDVD to output the decrypted stream to disk instead of the sound card.
The tools are:
* DVD-A ripper: Intended to decrypt CPPM protected AOB and VOB files on DVD-Audio discs.
* PPCM ripper: Intended to capture Packed PCM (MLP) stream (stereo or multichannel) to
* DVD-A Explorer: Intended to peep&grab on DVD-Audio tracks (PCM and Packed PCM).
This tool is available at Rarewares here.
While InterVideo is likely to update its software to block the use of this patch, it appears that DVD-Audio's CPPM has been compromised at least in DVD-Audio discs up until this time or until the keys used in the current versions of WinDVD that this tool works on are revoked in upcoming DVD-Audio disc releases. However, this would also mean that WinDVD users would be forced to update their software to play future DVD-Audio discs.
Region coding on DVDs has caused enough headaches for people. The idea of having DVD audio disks that don't allow ripping to your computer is idiotic.
CSS for DVDs didn't stop ripped DVD movies being downloaded by millions. Why does the recording industry think that some new encryption scheme will stop music pirates? All such encryption does is make the lives of legitimate users hard.
> I'm a little surprised--why did it take so long for someone to do this?
because it wasn't until last week that someone actually bought a DVD-Audio disk
Anyhoo, this is good news.
;)
Now I can rip this stuff off to 64K MP3, then convert it over to Real, and finally through to it's final form as a DRM'ed WMA.
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
Because so few people care about DVD Audio? Most people's ears (and rooms) aren't good enough for 24/96 audio. My interest in high-end audio disc formats ends with DTS, which was a real clever hack in how it used a standard CDDA audio data stream.
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"Open source is evil." - Microsoft
CDfreaks has nothing to do with this release. The guys from RareWares are the ones taking risks to bring these tools to the community.
http://www.rarewares.org/
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?show topic=34368&st=0&p=310943&#entry310943/
That's great, now if only someone could figure out how to circumvent getting Slashdotted.
I would buy their product immediately.
Cool... would you burn me a copy or throw up a torrent?
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I know this fight against the Man is so very romantic, but the companies can opt out of this arms race in which the hackers have the advantage. The more and more this encryption breaking is done, the industry will spend less and less money on developing new encryption schemes, and instead spend more and more on buying Senators and Representatives to pass draconian measures to prevent you from legally trying (thinking about how) to break the schemes.
Link to software
"DVD Audio Tools", second from bottom.
So, rather than try to compromise the DVD-Audio's encryption itself, someone has succeeded in making a patch that uses WinDVD to perform the decryption and playback, but instead pipes the decrypted audio output to the hard drive instead of the sound card.
While certainly useful for WinDVD users who aren't able to do this natively (guessing that Windows can't do this redirection natively, hence the news story), this is really "circumvention" at its most basic level. Well, almost...one step up from sticking a tape recorder next to your speakers. Not quite the "fair use" that will "break open" the DVD-Audio market that many posters will no doubt clamor over, and nowhere near a true solution to the problem.
And to those familiar with this patch: Is the output even in a standard format capable of more than two channels?
But the reputation of the format here on /. is that it was created because they (the RIAA) wanted to prevent ripping. So which is it?
The problem with the "prevent ripping" choice is that, AFAIK, there are no releases on DVD-A that isn't also available on CD.
I imagine the only reason it took so long is because no one gives a damn about DVD-Audio (: The last DVD-Audio disc I actually saw was the test one that came with my previous DVD player.
Plain and simple, the format allows the companies to disable your machine. Not only are they trying to control the music that you buy, but now they are wanting to control your machine.
Funny thing is, that kids today can control the industry as they are the main buyers of the music.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
As one of the 3 people in the world who actually own DVD-Audio discs I am very excited about this. Thankfully I was able to get the story and programs before the server went up in flames. I'm alredy ripping my Nine Inch Nails With Teeth DualDisc and it seems to be working quite well. I also had to rip the VIDEO_TS folder after using DVDADecrypter to get WinDVD to read the files when I loaded PPCMRipper. Now it's decoding, and I can't seem to get it to get the multichannel audio. Also, its cutting off the first few seconds of the first track on the disc, but if you hit the back button it starts reencoding the first track. Maybe I could just use a normal dvd audio ripper for this part...
Now the copyright cartel will probably just kill the format, and try again with stronger encryption.
The problem isn't so much the strength of the encryption. It's more that they are trying to use encryption to do something encryption isn't very good at doing.
This, of course, is not meant by me to imply that any form of mass-consumer DRM is at all uncrackable. They're all doomed in my view.
Hence they are often combined with legislation to attempt to outlaw cryptoanalysis.
He is still around; he only focuses on Apple-related hacks AFAIK.
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A search of Amazon shows only 36 hits for "dvd-audio" in the music section, and several of those are actually SACD, not DVD-Audio. Wow. Think of the losses! It could run in the tens of thousands of Yen!
" scheme has remain publicly uncracked,"
"Me fail English? Thats unpossible" --Ralph Wiggums
Now if they could crack a format that is actually used, like DRM:ed WMV/WMA.
(Yeah, I know Freeme cracks the old version)
My other comment is funny
I'm not saying the effect will be huge, or even noticeable. For one, as mentioned, the industry can revoke the player's keys, which would prevent ripping new releases. (As well as screw anybody who owns WinDVD. Class action lawsuit anyone?) And as you say, they have only to take it off the market slowly, thus killing it while being able to say that piracy killed it (even if said piracy never occurs). But if there ever were a non-monopolized, non-overpowerful market, you would see a noticeable rise in sales.
"-1 Troll" is the apparently the same as "-1 I disagree with you."
If the situation were sane, people would buy more DVD-Audio.
Here's why:
As cited in the article, this only compromised WinDVD. CPPM, like CSS, has player keys that are specific to the player hardware/software being used. This did not actually reclaim the player key from WinDVD, and even if it did, the player key can be deactivated in future releases, so that future DVD-Audio DVDs can still play. Hence, for true cracking, all of the player keys need to be discovered.
Furthermore, if only WinDVD is compromised, it will send a signal to content companies to support such formats as SACD, as the format's design naturally prevents playback (and hence any sort of ripping) on computers entirely (as the technology has not been licensed).
That's a silly thing to say. You have a program that will let you record sounds as they come out of the sound card. So what? It's not in DVD-A format (which, in case you didn't know, is a high resolution format, much higher than CD.). Plus, your recording is in real-time, which makes it inconvenient for users to do. One reason MP3 encoding has caught on is because it takes 10 minutes to rip and encode a CD. I doubt it would be as popular if everything was recorded in real-time.
Now I can finally get a rip of the collected works of the Starland Vocal Band!
If my grammar and spelling are off, I am [distracted/tired/careless] (take your pick)
This is just the same thing. Right now, DVD audio is an obscure thing that few people have heard of or seen around, and even if you know it exists, you gotta be crazy to buy one. Now it should become less crazy, and publishers will start to have a reason to use the format.
You just can't seriously be in the market until your format is usable. It's just common sense.
As copyright owner of this comment, I authorize everyone to defeat any technological measure which limits access to it.
I have a couple of Audio DVDs. When I play them, they only play through my SoundBlaster Audigy 2. I have a professional card that has far superior DACs and opamps, and thus far superior sound, but it won't play through it. Why? Well the pro card plays by my rules, it will route any input to any output, allow logging to disk, allow full resolution digital output, etc. Thus, the driver isn't certified. The Audigy 2 will accept encrypted input from the program, shut off digital outs, deny recording capability, etc.
So a program like this IS a restration of fair use. It has nothing to do with free music, I mean shit, DVD-A is 50MB/minute COMPRESSED, I don't really think there'll be a lot of intrest in trading that online. What it's about is the ability to listen to music the way I want, on teh hardware I want.
I think a real problem for DVD-A is the previous two decades of direct-to-digital production. If a recording was made to 16/44.1 stereo masters, there's absolutely no point in releasing it on high definition multichannel media. The best you can hope for is to sound exactly like the CD, and what's more likely to happen is a corny surround remaster where the drum kit is inexplicably behind the listener. So there's this huge catalog of (mostly pop) music from the 80s and 90s made to low-definition digital formats, and they can never be improved by DVD-A nor SACD.
As usual, too many people lose sight of the goal of encryption. It's not to be "foolproof" where no one can make copies, it's to make it hard enough that the casual music fan decides it's easier just to buy the music than go through the hassle of installing software.
Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
One reason MP3 encoding has caught on is because it takes 10 minutes to rip and encode a CD. I doubt it would be as popular if everything was recorded in real-time.
I remember using l3enc to encode back in the day and it was slow as hell compared to today's tools (this was after using CDDA to rip the audio). This was probably more my machine than anything, but if I recall correctly, encoding was about real-time. It didn't stop anyone. All it takes is one person to do it and then it's ready for everyone else.
You're obviously trolling but I'll answer anyway...
"free use" is not the same as "fair use" thus my suggested change...
"And we will take it by any and all means" is hostile and makes it sound like we started this mess. The way I suggested it be rewritten shows that the media conglomorates are using their power (via their deep pockets) to steal it from us and we are going to take it back.
I fail to see how you couldn't understand that in the first place.
The post doesn't promote piracy. While it's easy to see how this tool could be used for piracy, and it's likely it will be used for piracy, all it does is allow the user to make an electronic copy of media that's already in his physical possession. Remember, if you don't already own a CPPM-protected disk, then this utility is useless.
/. story on DRM. But I'll keep repeating it as long as there are people wiling to parrot the industry crap about DRM being used to prevent piracy. Either that, or the mods start flagging me as "Redundant."
The purpose of CPPM (and just about every other DRM system) isn't to control piracy. As far as the pirates are concerned, most DRM systems are rendered irrelevant before the first protected media is ever produced. I can go online right now and download a DRM-free version of "Revenge of the Sith," but I couldn't acquire a protected version even if I wanted to. So when the DVD is released and it's "protected" by CSS, who are the studios trying to protect it from?
CPPM is similar. Connect to a P2P network and search for "DVDAudio." This stuff is already out there. If I want to get it without paying for it, I can download it right now, and this WinDVD patch is of no use to me whatsoever. If I'm a pirate, I don't give a shit. But if I'm an honest consumer and pay for my music in DVD-Audio format, then I have audio content that I can't play on my iPod. This is what this tool is useful for.
DRM doesn't control the pirate, it controls the honest consumer.
I feel like I make the same post every time there's a
an AssHat!!
Plus you sound like a lier.. I mean lawyer. LOL!!
And don't forget BUSTER, there are 6.5 billion citizens on the earth, and only a hand full of people *like you* and your big-bad-governments who are over-reacting more and more everday, because they know that *we* are comming for them. :]
I will gladly loose all of life's battles.. in order to win the war..
1: Company A cracks Company B's more successful player and distributes said crack over Usenet.
2: Company B's keys are revoked, rendering their players useless.
3: PROFIT!
A 3-steps to Profit is a short pipeline indeed.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
And all the DRM system has to do is refuse to support your sound card.
End of discussion.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
It's the sample rate, moreso to me than the bits per sample. 44.1KHz's nyqust freq (22.05Khz) is close enough into the range of human hearing that artifacting can easily occur. You need VERY good filtering on A/D inputs to have sounds above say 18KHz still present, and the filter level be inaudible at 22Khz (greather than 60dB of attenuation in about a 1/4 octave, so 240dB of attentuation per octave. That's not a simple filter).
By upping the sample rate to 96Khz, the nyquist frequency is so high (48Khz), that the filter requirements aren't nearly so high, and that any artificats that do creep in do so at frequencies well beyond our hearing.
Even on modest gear, it makes a difference.
And by modest, I'm putting the system price at say $2000 (receiver, dvd player, speakers).
Granted, the D/A stage doesn't need these expensive filters that the recording stage does, but it gives the recorders a lot more lattitude to make GOOD recordings. But mass-market CDs sound like crap. The compress (dynamic compression) the hell out of the audio. A well done recording with a bit of dynamic range sounds so much better than most pop recordings do.
16 bits gets you about 96dB of dynamic range possible. 24 bits gets you 145dB of range. Again, the 16 bit version is on the edge of hearable. The 24 bit version isn't. But 96dB is definitely not bad for most systems.
But that's where the dynamic compression comes in, as most CDs I hear have very little dynamic range, and they push it out far enough close to the max volume that the disc can record to cover up any noise in the playback system at low signal levels.
CD-Audio is adequate, but not capable of really replacing high quality analog. DVD-Audio's rates are (the audiophiles mostly agree that the data-rate is higher than they can distingusih, although they'll probably complain about warmth/veiled highs, etc, their perogative, I guess).
Most modern recordings are aimed at playback on low-grade consumer hardware, both home/mobile. The noise floor in mobile audio is enough that very dynamic recordings tend to become half unintelligible, and half earsplitting. When the same CD, in a quiet room in a house, is wonderful (drums have massive impact, but quite passages are, well, quiet). Unfortunately, this is performed at the recording studio, instead of being performed in the car stereo (compressors can be cheaply implemented in the DSP that's dealing with all the rest of the sound-shaping that low-end gear does).
So, unless the recordings really try to take advantage of the format, we'll have the audio equivalent of ball-park hotdogs served on china with silver and crystal.
You're missing something important: most people simply don't have audio gear of sufficient quality to make higher resolution formats worthwhile. And with consumer electronics all being made in China now as cheaply as possible because people value price over quality, this isn't about to change.
What's more, I really don't think most people could tell the difference anyway, because so many people have poor and/or damaged hearing thanks to all the loud noises we're exposed to constantly, or thanks to age.
Back in the day, the content providers WERE the pirates. Especially Disney, which is interesting because now they are lobbying hard against the very activities which brought them their power. For more information regarding the history of this issue, Lawrence Lessig has an excellent book called "Free Culture" which addresses this usurping of our rights.
You are being somewhat selective in your civic values.
I do not think so. As someone who worked as a Customs Inspector for almost a decade and seized many many hardware and software components under the DMCA, I have a keen understanding of the intention and use of the DMCA. It was implemented with the intention of curbing the flow of violative software and the hardware that enabled use of illegal software. It also enabled businesses to better control their marketing districts.
Preventing consumers from fair use activities was never part of the stated reason for the legislation nor were we ever instructed during our briefings to look for articles that would prevent consumers from manipulating legitimate (legally obtained and distributed) software and hardware.
My background stated, I will also assert that I have no problem putting copyright violators in jail or with the seizure of illegally produced and distributed works. I am not advocating any type of free-for-all. I believe people should be fairly compensated for their efforts.
However, /. dislike: My favorite was the court decision that third-party garage door openers are NOT a violation of the DMCA because Congress never intended the DMCA to limit consumer options. Good ruling but this is why I have become cynical about the current usage of the DMCA. It is no longer being applied to the "bad guys" but instead is being increasingly used by corporations to lock consumers out of their rights and choices.
since my time as an Inspector, I have observe many businesses try to warp the usage of the DMCA to their own ends. And not just the usual targets of
The manipulation of the DMCA in effort to extort more money out of the consumer or monopolistically control the consumer is unacceptable and unethical.
I stand by my previous statement.
Why should businesses be allowed to "better control their marketing districts"? This seems very anti-competitive and non-free-market, why should we pass laws to encourage it? After all, if companies are free to outsource to places where prices are cheap, thus lowering wages here, why shouldn't consumers be allowed to do the same thing by buying items someplace where they have to price it cheaply? Why should they be able to have their cake and eat it too?