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Shanda Box vs. Microsoft Venus After Six Years?

Luyi Chen asks: "Shanda revealed their new PC entertainment center (aka Shanda Box) at China International Consumer Electronics Show (SinoCES) last Friday. It's strategy is to move Internet content to TV. Six years ago, Microsoft Venus was to provide a cheap operating system with basic information processing ability for the TV set-top market. While Microsoft focused on reducing the price, Shanda focuses on reducing the entry level. Both strategies are based on the fact that the number of TVs dwarfs the number of PCs in China, which won't change in six years. What is different is that we have faster hardware, more Internet content and users. Amazingly enough, Microsoft's Venus didn't make it out of the laboratory. Does Slashdot think Shanda will succeed where Microsoft thought it would fail?"

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  1. Shanda... by Smiffa2001 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...sounds like a very weak beer.

    1. Re:Shanda... by flyingsquid · · Score: 4, Funny
      "Shanda" is a contraction of the words "sham" and "panda". The term's proper use is demonstrated by the following exchange:

      CHINESE PEASANT #1:Look at this swell panda I got at the market in Beipao! There's no limit to what I can do with this panda! I can harness him to a cart and use him to haul my rice! Give him to the local head of the Communist Party as a bribe! Start a petting zoo- or chop him up and make panda jerky! My fortunes have changed at last!

      CHINESE PEASANT #2: Much did you pay?

      CHINESE PEASANT #1: Only 1000 yuan!

      CHINESE PEASANT #2: Wait a minute... that's not a panda- it's a shanda!

      CHINESE PEASANT #1: What? A shanda? Are you sure?

      CHINESE PEASANT #2:Positive! See? It's just a sheep with a bit of black paint!

      CHINESE PEASANT #1: Shit!

  2. What ... by Infernal+Device · · Score: 4, Interesting

    All of a sudden we're experts on the Chinese internal market?

    Inside China? Who knows? The State might just force all its citizens to buy it at gunpoint.

    Outside China? Probably not.

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    "My God...it's full of trolls!"
  3. Another doomed platform... by TheNarrator · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For 90% of the target market, the only thing that matters is if it can display dhtml, flash , javascript, and multimedia as well as IE 6 Running on Windows 98 or better. Another 8% will use it if it can do these things as well as Firefox. Otherwise the target market will go down to the local internet cafe and just use ie6 on windows.

    The only platform people are somewhat willing to compromise on is their mobile phone. They can't carry around their windows pc in their pocket so they'll settle for less. For the rest it will be not worth it.

    It's kind of like the office suite market. The only question that matters is does the thing read and write word flawlessly every time. If it works 99% of the time it better be free or else nobody will use it.

  4. I have one thing to say to shanda.. by ShaniaTwain · · Score: 4, Funny

    You go girl!

    Shanda VS. Venus, sounds like a catfight at a strip club.

    a TV strip club.

  5. Watch that voice change by joe_bruin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    said the submitter: What is different is that we have faster hardware, more Internet content and users. Amazingly enough, Microsoft's Venus didn't make it out of the laboratory.

    We? The article started as "Shanda did this", and then transitioned to "we did this". You see, if you're trying to plug your technology by making it appear like a legitimate Ask Slashdot, at least have the courtesy to pretend to be impartial. That and pitting it against a Microsoft research product that never existed outside the lab (six years ago) as if you're competing with it. This has to be one of the worst plugs I've seen.

    1. Re:Watch that voice change by perlionex · · Score: 4, Informative

      I believe that "we" is meant to be a collective; i.e., "we", as the world of 2005, now have faster hardware, more Internet content and users.

      The submitter is a Chinese PhD student blogger, legitimately trying to source for more opinions from Slashdot about this issue.

      If you had read his blog linked from his submission, you'll see he has done some of his own analysis. Quite a bit more than what most posters here have so far, and it's not very much yet.

  6. Heck... by Audacious · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm in agreement with the other posters in that if China wants a really cheap PC to be both the entertainment center as well as the TV center - then let them use a cheap PC with a TV video card in it. After all, you can get a PC for around $200.00 now on-line and a cheap monitor (CRT at least) on-line as well. The whole thing can sit in the entertainment center or shelves and then they'd have a decent picture as well as a way to play games if they wanted.

    There are only a few problems with this though:

    1. China still has a huge number of farmers who do not have electricity.
    2. Most of the people living outside of the major cities have hardly any money at all and get most of their news from radios or TVs which are run by generator and are communal radios/TVs.
    3. Unlike the US - the people of China do not have the "I've gotta have it!" kind of outlook. It is more like how the US used to be. The "If it won't solve my problems I don't want it." kind of outlook. And their major problems are food, clean water, medicines, and shelter. Electricity would be nice but just having enough fuel to keep the fire burning is better in some areas. (I'm not saying all of China is backwards or anything like that. Just that in some areas they live with the land and have more basic needs than some electronic gadget.)

    There was a story about Africa from some years back. (I know a couple of them actually.) Anyway, people thought that it would be a great idea to send tractors over so the people of Africa could plow the fields and produce more goods. Only they forgot that there weren't any oil refineries, gas stations, and the like in place yet. So all of the equipment just sat and rusted away. This situation is similar to that problem (IMHO). There are huge numbers of people who live so far below the poverty line that we tend to just push them out of our minds. So a few million people in China may be able to buy a box to watch TV and play games with. Well, what about the other 3.5 Billion people who are just trying to make it day by day? They aren't going to buy anything.

    Unless we treat them like we do some of the other countries. Where we give them our money so they can buy our products. Sounds crazy I know, but the US does that to several countries. As far as I can tell, we do that to help jumpstart those countries' economies. But that's just my opinion. What's yours?

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    Someone put a black hole in my pocket and now I'm broke. :-)
  7. Re:WHAT??? by mboos · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cheap in price, or cheap in quality?

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    --Mike Boos
  8. Short answer: no by SideshowBob · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Long answer: TVs are terrible output devices (low rez, interlaced), and couches are terrible ergonomic environments for keyboarding/mousing.

    You'd be better off building very cheap laptops like the Indians are doing.