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Genetic Research In The Heart of Amish Country
FrenchyinOntario writes "Insular, inbred communities like the Ashkenazi Jews and Indian tribes can be a bonanza of genetic information for researchers, and the Amish & Mennonite communities in the United States are proving to be fertile ground as well for scientists who want to better understand the nature of genetic diseases and how rare illnesses occur more frequently in such closed-off communities. The Amish, famous for their renunciation of a lot of technology, are embracing a lab that has been built in the centre of their community because their faith teaches them to "help their fellow man", recognizing that helping scientists better understand the genetic causes of diabetes, mental retardation, and some of the rarer diseases in their families, helps themselves as well as others. For a better understanding of the Amish and their approach to technology, Wired magazine ran an excellent story a few years back better illustrating why they are not just mindless kneejerk technophobes."
I've always always heard it as ah-mish, never the other way.
Or you can just say "Pennsylvania Dutch" and be done with it... *smirk
Not all Pennsylvania Dutch are Amish though. I come from a Pennsylvania Dutch family, and while my great grandparents spoke low-german, and were farmers, my great-grandfather also worked in a commercial dairy for an hourly wage. My great-grandparents was buried in a lutheran church, in York, PA. Amish have much stricter(simpler?) religious convictions, but on the outside, I can see how people confuse the two. My grandfather joined the Navy out of high school, and then went to college, as did most of the males from his community (WWII), and took a government job. He was a member of a lutheran church, and later an alderman of a methodist church for many years. If you met him on the street, you would have no idea, other than he is very careful about how he spends money (not cheap, but thrifty), tends to shun anything more than the basics, and values education over pretty much anything else.
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The Amish (and I believe to a lesser extent, Mennonites in general) believe that you have to make a conscious and informed decision to be baptised and formally join their faith, so Rumspringa lets them have a taste of life on the outside. The majority usually decide to stay, but UPN had a reality TV show Amish in the City and for some reason, the four Amish that were featured all decided to leave the community. Probably had something to do with the fact that they put them up with a bunch of "English" in a big mansion, and got them doing various activities together.
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The main thing to remember about true Amish is that they're an orthodox branch of the Anabaptist church.
:) But if they're standing side by side on a sidewalk you'd never be able to tell who is who.
The Mennonites are a non-orthodox denomination; however, to see them on the street together you'd have no idea which is the Amish and which is the Mennonite. Mennonites still hold onto the traditions except that they accept "modern" lifestyles - they own cars, TVs, computers, and so forth, but still honor the traditional dress and religious beliefs. My wife works with a Mennonite at a local grocer, and he's always in his straw hat and overalls whenever he works. It was actually a shock to see him in a "regular" suit and tie at the company Christmas party last year.
I live about 45 minutes from Strasburg and go through that area often. There are Mennonite churches all over the place, even as far out as Carlisle and as far north as Selinsgrove (not that those names mean anything to people who are not from the area).
Basically, if they own a buggy, they're Amish. If they own a car, they're Mennonite.
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Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou. I remember visiting my grandparents in Pennsylvania, my grandmother would get really upset with tourists who would talk about wanting to go see the AIM-ISH like they were a tourist attraction.
More entirely on topic, I think it's a good thing that the Amish evaluate technology and its impact on community instead of chasing after every new thing without thinking. There are both negative and positive consequences to technology, but in our culture we are driven only to look at the positive. The case can be made that the Amish methods of farming are much more environmentally friendly, there's less environmental impact farming with horses than tractors, and there have been particularly rainy seasons where the Amish were able to plant their crops much earlier than farmers using tractors because horses don't sink in the mud nearly as much as a tractor. But, that doesn't mean that even in farming, they don't use technology, they're able to get much higher crop yield today than a hundred years ago because they're willing to use high tech fertilizers (the case can be made that they get the best of both worlds that way). It makes perfect sense that they'll allow genetic research, they see how diseases are affecting them, and research on understanding those diseases will benefit their communities and everyone else.
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It would be appreciated by all if you did not call the Mormons Protestant. I will start by saying that no one considers them Protestant: Christians by and large consider them to be non-Christians (and therefore non-Protestant); they consider themselves a unique denominational class and neither Protestant, Catholic, Coptic, nor Orthodox.
I hope you noticed that I was neutral in the above paragraph: I pulled their claim to be non-Protestant off of their own website and I'm trying to be informative and not trying to start a flamewar.
Again, their society doesn't include things like illegal drug use (and hence, no drug-related crime.)
Unfortunately, not quite true. And while the perps may be idiosyncrasies, note who their customers were.
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>>> The Amish (and I believe to a lesser extent, Mennonites in general) believe that you have to make a conscious and informed decision to be baptised and formally join their faith
Yes. I was raised Mennonite. Amish and Mennonites both come from the Anabaptist (which means they baptize again) movement. It began around 1525 or so as some people were convicted that many pracitces of the church of the day (both the Catholic and to a lesser extent later on the Protestant churches) were not lining up with what Jesus taught. One of the core values was "believer's baptism," following Jesus' example that baptism is not just a mindless thing you have done to you as a child, but a public declaration by someone who understood that they were making a lifelong commitment to follow Jesus Christ. Another core value, of course, was/is pacifism and nonresistance. These views cost them dearly in terms of persecution for a couple hundred years or so.
I remember reading a story - I believe it appeared in the Plain Reader - that talked about the Amish approach to technology:
I find the Amish the most interesting people in the US.
... it makes them go slower.
... the point is they are in control.
... it just does not matter. They are totally independent. This flies in the face with todays elite trying to make everyone 'interdependent'. I find it fascinating.
The main misconception is the Amish hate technology. This is not true. They just do not want technology to control them.
I'll give an example, if a vehicle can go faster than a horse it is banned. Why is this? Because people can then travel great distances and migrate away. Why is this a problem? Its a problem because it breaks up families. You know what, looking at my family that is precisely what happened! This is the main intention to take the rubber off the wheels of wagons
The Amish do not like electricity because it comes from the grid. In other words, it makes people dependent on others. So, you can go into a store and the ceiling fan will be run from air pressure. Yep, there is a gas pump pumping air to make the fan go around. Little tubes all over the ceiling. The pump might be running vegetable oil. Or they can store fuel
What is interesting is I saw some Amish using power tools. Yet, the tools were plugged into a portable generator and not the grid.
If there is a telephone it is outside the home. Why is that? Because strangers are not allowed inside the home. You have to get permission to use the phone and go outside. You see, technology is not in control again. Having a t.v. in the house is like inviting in a child abuser...and it is!
In the 60s, the US government tried to take over Amish schools and force their children to public schools. They fought that and won. See, more control...there was another school system in place before the feds and the 60s school take overs.
Its very nostalgic to see a horse drawn cart harvesting a field of corn. No gas used and totally independent.
They still have 5-6 children per family. So, in another century they will probably be a majority of the population in their state. Not dependent on immigrants to flip burgers. Again they are in control.
What's great is $60 oil, electric grid going out, router down
They have not been "grown up and been socialized in isolation from mainstream society" as much as you might think. The world is all around them. I don't know if you've ever been to Amish country, but at least in Lancaster, PA, you can't really be isolated anymore.
... both frightening and hollow", but rather unfriendly and shallow. AFIAK, they all went back. Not because they weren't prepared for it, but because they *really* wanted to. The Amish don't pull any punches there. They want you to make a fully informed decision. They are not stupid and don't want you to come back because you were frightened. They'll ask you when you come back. They want to make sure that you're really coming back on your own accord. There's no pressure, subversion, or brainwashing. To compare them to cultish communities shows you really don't know anything about the amish.
I know I alot of people that grew up there that played regularly with amish kids. The amish and mennonites would go to the local schools and participate in things like sports and other activities that were deemed acceptable. They know more than you'd think about pop culture. I know, I gotten drunk with some who were out on their own.
None of them thought the outside world was "ultimately
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