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Shacktopus: Behemoth in a Pack

Chanc_Gorkon writes "Anyone remember the guy who built the Winnebikeo and the Behemoth bikes and kayaks? Well, he's at it again, but this time it's packable. He's taking lithium-ion batteries, solar cells, a Yaesu FT-817 HF radio, a Yaesu VX-6R HT, a Zodiac PDA, Linksys WET-11(older version) retrofitted with a Senao Long Range WiFi Card, cellphone and whatnot, and putting it all into something you can wear on your back. Basically, it's Behemoth in a pack. His website is up for the Shacktopus."

58 comments

  1. What the hell are you talking about? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Behemoth bikes? Kayaks? What?

  2. Widget overload! by woah · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

  3. Anyone remember the guy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No.

    1. Re:Anyone remember the guy? by Adelbert · · Score: 1

      Of course we don't.

      After years of using the Internet, my mind's become so lazy and forgetful that I don't remember anything at all. I need a quick hyperlink to refresh my goldfish-like brain.

      After all, in this technological age, memory is volatile...

  4. inph0z by DrunkenTerror · · Score: 5, Informative
  5. Dupe? by ThyPiGuy · · Score: 2, Informative

    This sounds almost identical to... this...

    1. Re:Dupe? by io333 · · Score: 1

      Oh, I forgot it was dupeday.

    2. Re:Dupe? by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 1

      NOT a dupe. That pac ONLY has WiFi with a EVDO card. This one has not only wifi and cellular, but ham radio on many bands as well as GPS and a Linux based computer.

      --

      Gorkman

  6. I for one... by brilinux · · Score: 1

    Wish 73s to him. If I had money, and I had upgraded to Extra, I would probably want to do somthing like that. It is nice to see hams still working on high-tech wireless solutions.
    -Brian, KG4QXK

    1. Re:I for one... by lordkuri · · Score: 1

      O Hanlon, Brian P, KG4QXK (Technician)
      10024 Green Brook Ct
      Manassas, VA 20110-3830

      not such a good idea to give that out, now is it?

      oh, and get a real license, morse isn't hard =P

    2. Re:I for one... by brilinux · · Score: 1

      Actually, when I went to upgrade to general, they messed up the code test, and so no one could upgrade. I actually do know code, I have just not bothered to upgrade.
      As for my callsign, yes, I know that the related info is readily available, but it has already posted on Slashdot and is trivial to get anyway. I am in college, though, so I am never at that address anyway, so it really does not matter (hint: KG4QXK/W3VC). So there you go, now people can find me if they actually care.
      73,
      Brian, KG4QXK

    3. Re:I for one... by lordkuri · · Score: 1

      hey man, I'm just pointing out that it's not a great idea to post that kinda stuff on a highly viewed site. Your safety is your own problem ;)

    4. Re:I for one... by brilinux · · Score: 1

      Well, my e-mail address is on there, which makes it trivial to get my address (the one where I am, not the one where I do not live, which is the one that you posted), but no one has actually gone and posted it on Slashdot. Now, I would rather that you not do that, but then again, you did once. It would be possible that you could point that out without posting my address, too, you know.

    5. Re:I for one... by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 1

      All you need is a call. You can look it up in QRZ and many other online databases including the FCC's.

      --

      Gorkman

  7. Any takers? by Infinityis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I find it funny that this story is so slow to get comments. It's like this guy is the weird guy that everyone knows but nobody wants to be friends with him. "Does ANYONE remember this guy? Anyone...?" And wo no one posts for fear of being associated with him.

  8. Linksys WET11 by rerunn · · Score: 1

    He's using a hacked version 1 WET 11 for the Access point.

    Basically its a replacement of the stock radio with a 200mW Senao card. You can see here: http://shacktopus.com/hacks/senao-wet11.html

    The one thing I see odd is that he is using both of the antenna jacks on the Senao card which were meant to be used in diversity mode with matched antennas. He is using a rubber duck on one and a directonal on the other.

    I know that there are numerous different diversity modes but my experience with this particular Senao card (prism 2.5 chipset) is that you are better off using a single antenna on the main connector (left connector when viewd with sockets facing down)

  9. We also have no idea wtf you are talking about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    oh yes, the senao card, right.

  10. No, no, no... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You must be new here. It doesn't matter that you have no idea what the article is about, just say what a stupid idea you think it is and then make some stuff up (and make sure to use poor grammar and spelling, and it goes without saying: don't read the article). Here, I'll start:

    While this is a great idea it is very poorly executed; I fail to see why he chose the Yaesu FT-817 with a Yaesu VX-6R HT, clearly the HS model would be much more appropriate, and cheaper. Hopefully the woeful inadequecies Behemoth have been addressed, but at first glance it seems that I could create something much greater, if I felt like it.

  11. Re:uhmmmm by I(rispee_I(reme · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I remembered him, dammit.
    And he's also one of the coolest stories I've seen on /.
    Furthermore, I'm glad he got his rig to fit in a backpack.

  12. I do by thundercatslair · · Score: 3, Funny

    He came though my town once, and while I was driving I saw him on his intense computer bike. I thought, I wonder if I can get raspberries cheaper at safeway or superstore.

  13. Interesting design... by argent · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's kind of weird how all the control is through serial ports.

  14. Noob by MyLongNickName · · Score: 1

    You forgot to say that it should also be compatable with Linux.

    Noob.

    --
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    1. Re:Noob by metamagix · · Score: 1

      Don't worry. Linux is in there.

      We've (I'm working with Steve on the project) got an embedded Linux board in there to handle the networking details. A separate, always-on microcontroller (an Atmega128) handles the communications and makes connections via the audio matrix. As for the strangeness of serial, we've got several off the shelf boards that talk that way, so it made sense to add a multiplexer for the two serial ports on the Atmega. One port always receives commands and queries (from the Linux board when it's turned on) and the other talks to the other peripherals (including the two ham radios) to get its work done. Async serial wouldn't be my first choice either, but not enough random comms gadgets are on the CAN bus right now.

      Among the value-added features provided by the Linux board is generic ham radio control (provided by hamlib). It's nice to not have to reverse engineer every radio on the market.

      The Linux board is also providing access point and bridge functions for IP. The WET11 is only in ther e because the embedded board we're using doesn't have a PC Card slot for the Senao WiFi card.

      We'll be open sourcing the code, of course. Our "target market" right now is other hams, many of whom would want to hack the unit for their own purposes.

      Ned Konz
      KE7DYH

    2. Re:Noob by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the info. Damn fine project. I would definitely be interested in this project. Pretty cool. This post needs modded up.

      --

      Gorkman

  15. The question is: Who you gonna call? by pongo000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    With the continuing death throes of ham radio, who exactly are you going to communicate with other than other hams on a pre-determined schedule (yes, I RTFA, and this is exactly what was done)? Who will be listening when an emergency comes around? In case one hasn't noticed, there is really nothing going on new and innovative in digital modes these days. And if you do find the occasional renegade website that talks about high-speed digital communications on the ham bands, good luck in actually finding another ham locally who is interested.

    Where were the ham radio operators during the London blasts, when the telephone/cell networks were reportedly overloaded and in some cases unusable? In fact, when was the last time ham radio was used in an emergency situation because other modes of communications were down? (If you doubt the death of ham radio, you might want to peruse this.)

    These are just some observations from a long-time ham...one of the reasons I became inactive was because I could not find other hams interested in pushing the digital envelope. That was 10 years ago...and now, I'm afraid it's too late to catch up.

    This article was a good read from a nostalgic standpoint, but I don't see anything very innovative, at least innovative enough to spark my interests (again).

    1. Re:The question is: Who you gonna call? by lordkuri · · Score: 1

      In fact, when was the last time ham radio was used in an emergency situation because other modes of communications were down?

      9/11
      Hurricanes last year
      etc

      it's used a LOT more than you realize

    2. Re:The question is: Who you gonna call? by pongo000 · · Score: 1

      No, it's really not. Sometimes it appears that ham radio is providing important services, when in fact ham radio operators are simply present with no real emergency interaction and simply relegated to the role of passing routine health/welfare traffic.

      What role, exactly, did ham radio play in 9/11? I don't recall any major role played by ham radio that saved lives. I don't recall ham radio stepping in to resolve the inability of various NY agencies to communicate...

      Just showing up at the party doesn't quite cut it.

    3. Re:The question is: Who you gonna call? by lordkuri · · Score: 4, Informative

      http://september11.mrtmag.com/ar/radio_world_trade _center/

      Two dozen or more hams per shift are covering communications and logistical support for the American Red Cross as well as supplementing communication for the New York City Office of Emergency Management.

      you were saying?

    4. Re:The question is: Who you gonna call? by pongo000 · · Score: 1

      OK, I've read the article. It's not clear to me exactly what the hams actually did, other than pass routine traffic. What role, exactly, did the ham radio operators play in saving lives?

    5. Re:The question is: Who you gonna call? by pongo000 · · Score: 0, Troll

      Hurricanes last year

      If you had bothered to click the link in my original post, you would have found out that hams didn't really play any significant emergency role in last year's hurricanes.

    6. Re:The question is: Who you gonna call? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Communication coordinates the response.

      Better communication, better response, more lives saved.

      No, ham radio doesn't perform CPR or pull people out of burning buildings.

      Ham radio makes sure that the rescue services can use their resources efficiently.

    7. Re:The question is: Who you gonna call? by redphive · · Score: 1

      If you equate the worth of HAM radio operators in saving lives then of course you probably won't be impressed with their involvement until they race into a burning building or pull people from a demolished building.

      The fact still remains that HAM radio is an excellend form of decentralized communication. In the event that there is some regional disaster on the scale of say, the December 26th Tsunami in SE Asia, then their aid in communicating relevant information to those impacted is important. That said, VHF radio does a fairly good job of reaching a large area, but it is far shorter in reach than any comparibly powered HAM radio.

      Sometimes routine traffic is just as important as critical time sensetive operations oriented communications.

    8. Re:The question is: Who you gonna call? by Ratbert42 · · Score: 1
      In fact, when was the last time ham radio was used in an emergency situation because other modes of communications were down?

      2004 hurricane season in Florida.

    9. Re:The question is: Who you gonna call? by Ratbert42 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I've met Joe, AB2M, and he's being an idiot and sharing some bitter grapes with his article. He came to Punta Gorda / Port Charlotte a week after landfall when major services were getting restored. He went to the idle "section manager" (Dave Armbrust, AE4MR) who was such an idiot that he's since been voted out (part of the reason Joe's so bitter). The post-Charley response was a clusterf-ck. Essentially all of the "leaders" yahoo-ed it down to the affected area and made a mess. Without coordination there were a lot of wasted ham resources. Their mismanagement had a lot to do with changes in the ham radio emergency structure in Florida.

      I was in Punta Gorda 8 hours after landfall and hams were plenty busy for the first 72 hours. I later found out I was literally operating within half a mile of Dave, who was camped out on some air-conditioned communications trailer, turning hams away because he didn't have any tasks for them. Meanwhile, I have Red Cross and Salvation Army operating with no communications except volunteers driving between locations.

      I know the hams that set up the Forestry trailer and Joe's again full of it. Those hams got a sheriff's department back on the air and kept them working. Those particular hams and others train and practice setting up those communication trailers. Sure emergency services folks could have set it up, but they were a little busy and short-handed at the time. It freed up at least an extra battalion chief and an engine company.

      As Jeanne passed, a local ambulance company (not fire-rescue but BLS) lost their repeater for about an hour. I personally know two of about five hams that worked together to pass messages and dispatch some of ambulances from the shelters they were located at.

      I'll agree that the subsequent hurricanes left little for hams to do because of all the resources that had swarmed to Florida by then. I hope a lot of those resources stayed. Personally, I'd love it if a hurricane could come through and hams are never needed.

    10. Re:The question is: Who you gonna call? by pongo000 · · Score: 1

      I'll concede your point that there are still areas of the world where the communications infrastructure is way behind the times (or even non-existant). But given a modern communications infrastructure, I seriously question the value ham radio plays in disaster efforts, especially when Nextel is able to set up a secure and reliable communications station, with encryption, and can provide phones to rescue personnel without the need for special licensing provisions, training, etc.

      Hey, I'm all for ham radio making a comeback. But the only (and arguably weak) justification I see for the continued existence of ham radio is that of disaster/emergency communications. Let's be realistic about this: The ability of amateur radio special response teams to quickly mobilize and provide communications in disaster areas has been usurped by commercial interests with far more resources than the ham radio community. While the cause is noble, I don't believe amateur radio can continue to justify its existence on such a tenuous platform.

    11. Re:The question is: Who you gonna call? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus, troll, you just can't admit when you're proven wrong huh? Nextel is a rotten example, since their service doesn't even cover my part of the country. What commercial resources are you referring to exactly? And by the way, who are you to say that hams need to "justify" their existence? I'll stack my VHF HT against you chirpy Nextel phone (that won't work in a disaster anyway) any time. I may even let your family know that you're OK, just crying.

    12. Re:The question is: Who you gonna call? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So tell us, what hobbies do you have that help more people than hams? How do you justify YOUR existence? Fucking jackass.

    13. Re:The question is: Who you gonna call? by AndyCater · · Score: 1

      Andaman Islands. There _was_ a pre-arranged DXpedition to put the rare islands on the air. No one expected the tsunami - they handled virtually all the emergency traffic for four days solid and made something crazy like 100,000 contacts to do so. UK floods this year put out police fire and ambulance radio in one town - amateurs stepped in. London bomb - no - but UK amateurs aren't allowed to pass third party messages in the same way as in the US. Emergency planning officers in UK have amateur radio in their permanent posts for a reason. [amacater also G8UBG / G0EVX :) ]

    14. Re:The question is: Who you gonna call? by OverCode@work · · Score: 1

      Ham radio is not exactly in its "death throes". I used to go to Georgia Tech's excellent amateur radio station (W4AQL) at random hours of the day (between classes often) and have unscheduled chats with people all over the world. They're out there. Maybe not as many as there used to be.

      HFpack (http://www.hfpack.com/) is a great source of HF contacts, with an emphasis on portable and low power operation. They have a very active and enthusiastic mailing list.

      Hams were a huge help after 9/11. They provided local communication networks for ground personnel with very good success. 9/11 was definitely a success story for ham radio. I don't know if they were useful in the London situation, but if I'd been there with my equipment, I certainly would have made it available.

      The cell phone outages in London were due to a temporary overload as opposed to missing infrastructure. If the attacks had damaged the phone network, I strongly suspect British hams would have been out en force. But it's also worth noting that most of the HF ham activity in the UK probably takes place in the countryside. Most city hams don't have HF gear, since the antennas are so big and the neighbors usually object to the towers.

      Digital modes are neat, but when I was really into radio I was much more interested in learning about propagation, atmospheric conditions, antennas, feed line attenuation, and so forth. The basics of radio. I didn't really care what was going over the radio. Our station ran a digipeater as a service to the local area, but that's about it for digital. I tried Hellschreiber and RTTY a few times for fun. They were neat, but I don't think I ever had a QSO, other than receiving the ARRL's daily RTTY announcements.

      -John

    15. Re:The question is: Who you gonna call? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just after the Tsunami... the first and only communications were Hams... many "yachties" stay in contact via Ham radio... the International Space station has at least on one occassion used Ham radio for operational reasons... as to new digital modes.. . what a looser... just do a google serch... SDR digital modes, HF modes, in use PACTORIII, SCAMP.. this looser is trolling... as he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about... and oh *&^% I got hooked....

  16. Great to see a Ham radio article on Slashdot by RustNeverSleeps · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As a QRP operator, I love to go out into the woods and just sit and operate. There's something about just throwing a wire up in a tree and using a battery powered radio to talk to people all over the country and even the world. This guy has the same idea, although he's taking it a step further with internet access and data logging. The one thing I don't quite understand is how the internet access is going to work. In the block diagram, he's got a yagi antenna for WiFi, but that doesn't mean internet access will be easy every where. Up in the forests in the mountains (my favorite place to go with my radios), there are no nearby, or even distant line of sight WAPs. Satellite internet is an alternative, but as I understand it, it's rather expensive.

    1. Re:Great to see a Ham radio article on Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I love to go out into the woods and just sit and operate."

      Me too but the park ranger said I had to keep that kind of behaviour behind closed doors

  17. Tracking him live by k4hg · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can see his current location with this link. This is trasmitted via amateur radio, picked up by a local radio networks, and then forwarded to a server. You can also see the track he took on his current trip with this link.

  18. well... by KC9AIC · · Score: 1

    And hams can use up to 1500 watts of power...if they have a power supply that big while out walking.

    --
    HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I EAT COOKIES
    1. Re:well... by Detritus · · Score: 1
      You could do it, for several minutes.

      I've seen thermal batteries that could produce insane amounts of power for short periods of time. They are popular for applications like tactical missiles, where their characteristics are ideal.

      --
      Mea navis aericumbens anguillis abundat
    2. Re:well... by TheStonepedo · · Score: 0

      Really, you have to get into the gigawatts range to transmit yourself Back to the Future driving the BEHEMOTH-lorian. I think he left the flux capacitor out of the schematic.

      --
      I'll be your candy shop of infinite deliciousity if you'll be my discotheque of endless rump-shaking.
  19. Steve Roberts by mknewman · · Score: 1

    I met Steve back in the 80's when he came through Austin, Tx on his first bike. It was amazing to see all the stuff he had on it. Keyboard on the handlebars, ham gear, solar power, multiple computers, etc. I was into BBSing at the time and Steve wrote me up in his book. I contacted him a while back to say hi and seemed to be doing ok. I know for a while he had an arangement with Sun for Nomadic Computing. He had the two bikes (huge and ridiculous), the kayak and I think he may have been working on a mothership, a RV. The most amazing thing I remember about Steve was a knack he had for taking any phone number and coming up with a text string from the digits, almost instantaneously. It was uncanny. Marc

  20. BEHEMOTH by SassyDave · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you're wondering why he named his previous project Behemoth:

    Big Electronic Human-Energized Machine... Only Too Heavy

    Source: http://microship.com/resources/winnebiko-behemoth. html

    Picture of the Behemoth: http://microship.com/resources/resourcepix/behemot hwisc.jpg

  21. In case anyone's wondering... by mykdavies · · Score: 1

    BEHOMOTH = Big Electronic Human-Energized Machine... Only Too Heavy.

    From the site:

    The bike is an 8-foot recumbent, meaning that I sit in a relaxed position with my hands on control grips at my sides and my feet latched into a crankset out in front. Behind the bike is a 4-foot yellow trailer with solar lid, flip-down communications bay access door, and numerous antennas. In front of me is a large control console contained within a smooth white lexan fairing, presenting a panel with three large LCDs and numerous other instruments. Behind me a large white "RUMP" provides additional equipment space, a helmet-cooling system, more antennas, and a docking bay for an aluminum manpack with its own small solar panel. Atop my head is a decidedly bizarre helmet with heads-up display, motion sensors for cursor control, lights, the fluid heat exchanger, and an audio system. The whole system, fully loaded for touring, weighs about 580 pounds... plus me... and thus has 105 speeds, deployable "landing gear" for mountain climbing, and hydraulic brakes to help me survive the descent.

    This is what too much Smalltalk can do to you!

    --
    The world has changed and we all have become metal men.
  22. yea baby by pklinken · · Score: 0

    One shagtopus baby, righteydokey mate

  23. The follow-up question: Where's the replacement? by bXTr · · Score: 1

    Where were the ham radio operators during the London blasts, when the telephone/cell networks were reportedly overloaded and in some cases unusable? In fact, when was the last time ham radio was used in an emergency situation because other modes of communications were down?

    Where's anything else? It's one thing to proclaim the death of something; it's another to present a replacement for it. No one has offered a replacement for ham radio, yet they still say it's dead. Does no one see the need for emergency communications in a crisis that's independent of existing networks? I do. I have no opinion on ham radio's existence, but since there's nothing else why don't we just keep it around just in case?

    --
    It's a very dark ride.
  24. I remember the Winnebiko by gorehog · · Score: 1

    I read about it in 73 magazine when I was a very young man. I remember being enthralled by the recumbent bike, and the integration of all that electronics into something he could use while mobile. ---KC2MMW

  25. Not so. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    It got plenty of comments the first time it was posted.

    (Yes, I know that story was slightly different in some tiny technical detail. Bite me.)

  26. Silicon is for wimps! by kimanaw · · Score: 1
    Forwarded the link to a HAM buddy of mine (we recently did Field Day at Mt. Hood), and he sent an interesting reply...

    (editted for brevity)

    Now if you want to see a really cool portable station, check this out.... I e-mailed ... to let him know how cool I thought this was. He replied it was photos of a guy he had known back in the 50's. The trailer behind the car is a generator to power all the tube equipment. He was running full power out of the car, 2,000 watts in those days. The antenna was on a pneumatic mast that pushed up to 30 feet. The guy had added extra leafs to the springs to support all the gear in the back of the car. How cool is that?

    --
    007: "Who are you?"
    Pussy: "My name is Pussy Galore."
    007: "I must be dreaming..."
  27. Sure I remember the original Technomad by strannik · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember reading his dispatches on Compuserve or some other BBS (we both had TRS-80 100s) during the "Computing Across America" days (early 80s). Then I saw him several times at Sun Microsystems when he was building Behemoth in the bike lab there. I've been tracking his progress on and off ever since. Besides his books, newsletters, websites and news mentions, he was also featured in the cyberpunk hypercard stack.

    Steve was the first guy to make me see that it was possible to work and live without being tied to geography. He was also the first guy I ever saw use a satellite-based internet connection. Go to microship.com and read the article on gonzo engineering and see the list of other technomads. Then find your own way to work outside the cubicle!