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Self-Heating Coffee Hacking

ptorrone writes "Awhile back I wrote about the new Wolfgang Puck self-heating coffee containers that took 10 years and $24 mil to develop. Well, I managed to find them in a local store and bought them to take apart to see how they work. Once activated, they reach 145 degrees in about 6 minutes. This isn't a review of the beverage, it's all about the stuff that makes the liquid hot, how it works, pictures and links to patents. I am looking in to how these could be recycled too."

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  1. Wikipedia by Avuton+Olrich · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He should definitely put that into the wikipedia.

  2. Soup by Punboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This would be great for taking soups along with you. Especially for lunchs or breakfasts, or on hiking trips.

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    1. Re:Soup by Speare · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Except for carrying out all that extra self-heating crap with you. You do pack out your garbage, right?

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  3. wasteful by gonk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Okay, maybe it is neat that they've been able to make this work, but doesn't it seem just a bit wasteful to anyone but me? Western society at it's best, I guess.

    robert

  4. Re:Waste? by n0-0p · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I totally agree. I appreciate the Make post on how it works, but this product is taking throw away culture to an extreme. The convenience can't possibly be worth all the manufacturing and materials going into a single hot cup of cofee. And given the way it's packaged, there's no way you're going to reasonably recycle any of this. This is so wasteful it honestly offends me.

  5. 25 Million and 10 years? Right... by XorNand · · Score: 4, Insightful

    25 Million and 10 years? That's like employing 15 scientists and engineers at a good wage (plus room for admin overhead), all working 40 hour weeks for an entire decade.

    For this low-tech device? Something doesn't add up.

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  6. Re:"hacking"? by arodland · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That pretty much covers it. Tear it apart, see how it works. That's been the way to "hack" for at least 50 years.

  7. Re:Instantly hot! by drgonzo59 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Well for "_instanly_ hot" you might just not need a girlfriend but pay $50 to someone on the corner. It is kind of like eating Taco Bell instead of fine cuisine that takes longer to prepare. You get it fast and quick but then you feel sick for a long time. With a girlfriend you need millions, coffee, chocolates, flowers and time but then you might find someone to be with you for the rest of your life.

    Well, I didn't have millions, my girlfriend (now wife) luckily for me overlooked that requirement.

  8. Wow! by iamdrscience · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Finally I can get a hot cup of coffee anywhere I go, because, you know, it's not like there's a place to buy coffee on every corner.

    Oh wait, Starbucks...

    ...and a million other convenience stores, restaurants, cafes and coffeeshops.

  9. Re:Instantly hot! by modecx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Exactly! Being very empathetic can score you chicks, but it's just as likely to gain shopping partners.

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  10. Re:definition of waste by JetTredmont · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Finally, I do buy food that I throw out all the time. I would be a big fat pig if I ate every french fry I ever bought. Is it wasteful? I dunno, everyone who grew the potatoes, transported them, turned them into french fries, cooked them and sold them to me thought they were making a reasonable profit on them. I thought it was a good value for my money - in fact I got TOO MANY with my "#4 lunch special". I ate what I wanted and tossed the rest. Then the garbage man gets paid to haul it away. Whee!

    At which time it goes into a landfill and quite rapidly decomposes, providing fuel for the non-immediately-biodegradable substances to start decomposing.

    The "waste" is that this coffee cup goes into the same landfill, takes up about as much space as two super-size french fry orders, and yet last, oh, let's just estimate that it lasts about ten million times as long in said landfill.

    The PROBLEM here is that not all costs are passed on to the consumer OR to the provider. The cost of waste disposal is horrifically uncapitalized in the US, primarily because, aside from materials deemed "hazardous waste", there is no good way to regulate it. If waste management were properly capitalized, styrofoam cups would run for hundreds of dollars. But, it's not. You pay as much to throw out the styrofoam cup that rents landfill space on the order of eons as you do to throw out the serving of lasagna you left too long in the fridge, which will be gone from the landfill (as a discrete body of substance) in a matter of weeks.

    No matter how "free market driven" an economy is, it needs to understand where free markets fail. They OFTEN fail when public goods and services are needed to handle their byproducts, and this is a perfect example of that.

    In other words: yes, this is a horrendous waste of resources, and even though I do firmly believe in free market forces, I'd love for my government to step in and put a mandatory recycling program (vendor-funded) or heavy use tax on products such as this. Because it's not the producer who pays for this today, nor the consumer, nor the garbage man. It's your children and mine, who have to live in this filth.