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Old-Fashioned DRM Protects Harry Potter Book

RMX writes "The Telegraph has a nice article about the steps that Scholastic is taking to protect the content of the print version of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. They're delivering 10.8 million copies and need to ensure that this content isn't accessable by anyone before midnight. Technology includes high-tech (GPS to monitor delivery trucks progress and check that they did not deviate or stop.), low-tech (steel boxes & locks), social engineering notes (crates stacked up in the warehouses of delivery companies across America are marked: Please Do Not Open Before Midnight), and legal threats (As a final layer of security, booksellers have been forced to sign legal forms acknowledging that if they break the embargo, they will never again be supplied with a book by Scholastic). Think how much cheaper and easier it would be if they just used an E-book s with DRM. I'm all for Harry Potter protecting his rights; but it seems we keep getting closer and closer to the world described in Stallman's visionary The Right To Read article."

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  1. I have another idea by Approaching.sanity · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why not just, I don't know, make the book available as soon as it is ready instead of keeping to an artificial release date.

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  2. I want PAPER by gbulmash · · Score: 3, Interesting
    First, regardless of how easy it would be to use e-books with DRM, it would be a tragedy if they went that route. There's a tactile pleasure to a real dead trees paper book: its weight, the texture of its pages, curling up with it. I have never read a novel via the electronic route and doubt I ever will. Technical books, business books, books I want to study... e-books are great there. But I don't want to read entertainment books -- the ones I read 30-pages of before bed, or lay on the couch and read -- off a screen. I want to read them off paper.

    Anyway, DRM based on a "do not read before" timestamp would be hard to effect. It would require that any reader be set with an unhackable internal clock that knows the time zone the reader is in, otherwise people could circumvent the "do not read before" settings rather handily.

    I think the argument here is a bit difficult to support.

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  3. Re:Er? by danheskett · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The original manuscript would be worth well more than any gold. An exclusive dozen of the books available today, 7 days before the release would also be worth more than it's weight in gold, I imagine. Let's see, say a hardcover versions weights two pounds, thats, what, $15,000 or so worth of gold? I am sure you could sell one for more than that right now, today.

  4. Oops, these laws are garbage. by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The next thing you know, there will be draconian laws protecting "content." The purported purpose of these laws will be to protect the people who make this so called "content"--that is, people like artists, musicians, authors, programmers, actors, and others. Unfortunately, the real use of the laws, in practice, will be to line the pockets of already incredibly rich multinational corporations, which will hardly--if at all--give the people whom the laws are purported to protect--enough money to even survive. Then, these same multinational corporations, which will keep all the profits to themselves, will hunt down and prosecute anybody who does anything with "content" with which the multinationals are not happy, in the name of protecting the persons whom the same multinationals are not paying enough, despite making a killing off those very same works.

    Oh, wait, that already happened.

  5. Re:Release Dates. by gbulmash · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The reason you have release dates is so that ALL dealers have a chance to sell the book. Otherwise the stores with better distribution systems would get it in stock first, while the others would have to wait.

    This is also the reason many home video arms of the studios have "street dates" for video releases. Right after college, I temped in various studios in Los Angeles. One interesting job was calling up video stores that had "broken street" (started selling or renting a video before the authorized date), getting the manager on the phone, and then transferring them to a mid-level Disney exec, who would reduce them to jello.

    What was interesting, though, was the water cooler talk. If Costco or Walmart broke street, they didn't get the intimidating phone call. While the little guys couldn't afford to lose Disney, Disney couldn't afford to lose Costco and Walmart.

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  6. Re:It's not DRM, nor would I buy it if it was. by SirSlud · · Score: 1, Interesting

    > Secondly, the extra security has gotten Rawlings front page articles on CNN, NYT, BBC, etc. etc. building up the book hype.

    Drive an expensive car and get noticed.

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  7. And others do the opposite... by shmlco · · Score: 3, Interesting
    And others do the exact opposite. Baen Books, for example, has the latest David Weber/Honor Harringtion novel At All Costs, available for download now.

    Or you can wait until November when it's available in print. The trick is that the download is an "Advance Readers Copy", which they say is unproofed and may change before final publication.

    Translation: Buy this one because you can't wait, and then buy the "release" downloadable version in August, and then buy the hardback in November.

    At least on the site they admit up front they're taking advantage of you. But either "pre-release" or "strict release", the idea is to drum up interest and business.

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    1. Re:And others do the opposite... by Firethorn · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Actually, you're buying the preview edition now, to be updated to the final version when it's released. You just have to download it again. As in, you've just payed 3x the normal price for a baen ebook to get it early. But at least they're being honest about it:

      You can wait, but if you are a true Weber and Honor Harrington addict we want to take advantage of you. Order At All Costs, Aka Honor #11 now instead of when it debuts as a WebScription title, (August 2005) Here's your deal:


      I'm almost ready to buy it now, just for that honesty.

      I've bought a number of baen e-books, preceisly because they have no DRM. You can download them in RTF & HTML, for pete's sake! You can't get any less DRM than that.
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  8. Re:Release Dates. by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What was interesting, though, was the water cooler talk. If Costco or Walmart broke street, they didn't get the intimidating phone call. While the little guys couldn't afford to lose Disney, Disney couldn't afford to lose Costco and Walmart.

    It has gone even further than that.

    Best Buy gets to "break street date" by a couple of months on such series as: Battlestar Galactica and Space: Above and Beyond and charge full MSRP too -- why wouldn't they when they don't have to worry about competition for months?

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  9. Re:Red paper? Satan's Bible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    uh...the new testiment is Satan's Bible...

    Think about it...the new testiment cancels out all of the laws of god as described in the old testiment and makes christians think its ok to continue to sin and be hypocrates.

    What better way for satan/the devil/etc to get revenge than to taint god's word with his own?

  10. Re:What's wrong with price gouging? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    > I'm curious why they don't sell 1000 limited-edition-gold-plated Harry Potter books a month early; and 1,000,000 silver plated ones a week early for outrageously high prices.

    > Seems like a very nice way to get a little additional revenue & a lot of extra profit.

    because as soon as the words are out there, all the hype that drives ten million sales on the first night is gone.

    all the plot twists leak. someone finishes and passed it to a friend.

    the last time one of these books came out, i was hanging out on a certain irc network, which was suffering huge netsplits. turns out in a certain channel called #books or the like, people were polling to check for copies of the book. some of them, literally every five seconds: "@find order*of*the*phoenix"

    it's this sort of hype the printers live on. i guarantee you if they sold even one copy early, their sales would be cut in half.

  11. Re:Street Dates are Important... by BackInIraq · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I can't recall ever having known the street date for any book I have ever bought, or even cared about it for that matter. I most certainly have never seen any book other than the Harry Potter series have a street date be the subject of the general press, let alone any form of "security" whatsoever.

    Books generally don't recieve this kind of attention, because there isn't that much marketing associated with them. However, you have probably known the street date for movies or music you've bought (assuming you buy these things) even if you didn't realize it. Street dates for movies are well advertised, especially big releases. And that "this item won't be released until" notice you see on Amazon.com is also letting you know the street date. The only reason you are seeing this with Harry Potter is because of the large popularity of the book...the concept is nothing new. Walk into a Barnes and Noble and look around...you'll see signs posted announcing the street dates of various upcoming books. The only reason it doesn't make news is because nobody cares...they aren't as popular as Harry Potter.

    The publishers did not create the frenzy on this on, sorry to say. The customers did. And they are only enforcing their release dates this strictly because the more popular the item, the more likely the street date will be broken.

    This whole schmegegy has little to nothing to do with fair competition, but a whole lot to do with marketing, drumming up the fervor of the torch and pitchfork bearing mob that makes it appear the security measures are necessary in the first place.

    I can say it is very much about fair competition. Think of it this way...do you think that Harry Potter would sell that many less copies if a few stores sold it a day or two early? I don't. So it does NOT affect the publisher. But by enforcing a release date they can protect themselves against accusations of favoring one chain of bookstores over another, for instance, because they got their copies first and it gives that bookstore an unfair advantage.

    You may or may not have ever worked in retail, so this might seem like it's a new thing to you. I was once manager of a Blockbuster Video (evil bastards that they are). We would sometimes get movies as much as a week before their release date. But our agreement with distributors forbade us from displaying them until the official release date. Not only did we honor that, but at random we would actually send employees to other stores to make sure that nobody else broke street date either.

    Again, street dates and the strict enforcement of them are nothing new. The advertisement of them is nothing new either. Walk into any video store (and even many bookstores, as mentioned) and you'll see posted the dates of upcoming releases. The only reason this is news at all is because of the gigantic popularity of the Harry Potter book that's coming out. And that buzz was _not_ created by the publisher for the release of this book...it was created by the widespread popularity of the previous books. The Harry Potter books are as popular as many blockbuster movies, and they are being treated as such. I personally find it uplifting to see a book getting this kind of treatement; I had long since gave up and figured that most people in the US were just illiterate.

  12. Re:It's not DRM, nor would I buy it if it was. by Drakino · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If I had mod points, the marketing post above would have points added.

    Anyhow, I have to agree. By pushing not only a big new release, but also a date around this release, you build up a lot of anticipation. By doing this, the marketing people can ensure all the hardcore fans are all lined up at once, buy the book right away, and start blathering to friends about how they should read it soon. The previous big date and single release time will more then likely generate news coverage, and the person being recommended to the book might consider it more, as they remember the hype and figure it must be worth a look. Without the single release date, that person only has his friend recommending it, and no hype from the press.

    The fans of the book seem to be very rabid at times. Considering in the past it was a big story when a truck got stolen containing a shipment of the last book.

    This type of tatic works well for Apple as well. I'm sure they have sold a fair number of copies of OS X to existing users at the release parties not only getting the new release, but seeing demos of what is new. They then spread this to friends, and so more people consider buying it. Without a single release date, it would be less likely that someone would attend these release events at a local Apple dealer, as their big chain store down the road was likely to have a copy sooner, but with no hype around the release.

  13. Re:It's not DRM, nor would I buy it if it was. by moofdaddy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Reasonable but not true unfortunitly. Laydown dates are not restricted to best selling titles. Last Tuesday we had 11 laydowns alone, among the list was heavy hitters like the new woodward book but also you'll find a couple of crappy romance novels.

    Do you really think publishers are worried about the plight of the little book store? if you do then I have some land to sell you. A laydown date ensures a smooth launch. Could you imainge the chaos if for example poter was released by book stores as it came in? A shipment comes in to one barnes and noble but not another, it'd be chaos and people would just give up and wait.

    By your argument, why don't movie theaters just start playing movies the day the reel comes in (which is typically a couple of days before it airs) or why movies (dvds, etc) and games are released on specific days?

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  14. So what's to stop a 1000+ people... by gmezero · · Score: 2, Interesting

    who pick up their books at midnight from their book sellers, and then each one of those people scans in one page... Then they each OCR their page and post it to a undetermined newsgroup...

    Then what, by 12:15, the book is electronic and free on the net. What was that about DRM?

    I wonder if something like that could be pulled off, and just how quick everyone of those posters would receive their legal notices. Yikes! =8^O

    Well, screw it, Amazon is delivering my copy, and it's hiding away till my kids birthday at the end of the month. :)

  15. Re:Stallman a visionary?? RMS factoid/defense by iamcf13 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    elgee: Stallman is a crackpot. No more, no less.

    Tell that to the MacArthur Fellowship people.

    They gave RMS one of their 'genius grants' back in 1990.

    Strange, a year later, Linus Torvalds began work on the software kernel that 'bears' his name.

    Is he a crackpot too?

    IBM doesn't think so. They invested heavily in Linux making it more that some obscure 'hobby OS'.

    Then there is '(Ex) Chairman Bill' who happened to be at the right place at the right time and made the 'deal of a lifetime' at the dawn of the PC era that eventually made him the world's wealthiest man.

    Is Bill Gates a crackpot?

    Crackpot or not, the USA decided not to break Microsoft up like they did AT&T back in 1984.

    That should give you some idea how much clout some people have in the world.

    Too bad 'money makes the world go around' instead of something less...monetary....

  16. Cheaper and easier? by Danj2k · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There's two things wrong with this idea. Firstly, what format are they going to put it in that doesn't have some "workaround" available? Secondly, I've heard that Rowling hates the idea of ebooks and that this is why none of the Potter books have (legitimately) ever appeared in ebook format, which is a bit of a shame really.

  17. Re:It's not DRM, nor would I buy it if it was. by AaronStJ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Do you really think the big pulishers give a shit about the small bookstores? Hint, they don't.

    It's all about revenue. By having a well publicised street date, they create a false scarcity and a sort of frenzy in the consumers (not the readers -- the consumers, the people with the money). The consumers know they can't get it until whatever date, and when that date comes, they jump on it and pay their 30 bucks for the hardcover. Without the artifical frenzy of the street date, they might not buy the hardcove the day it comes out. They might not buy it at all. They might go for the trade or - god forbid - the mass market paperback. Worst of all, they might borrow it from a friend! Imagine that, all that enjoyment without paying Big Media a dime. It's criminal! Don't even get me started on libraries. Little pinko Bolshevik communes, every one.

    Protexting the small bookstores might be a nice thing for the publishers to talk about -- it makes the proles feels fuzzy inside -- but if it wasn't for the fact that they can make twice as much at Barnes & Noble by having a big, hyped midnight release like Revenge of the Atttack of the Phanton Clones, they wouldn't be doing it. Fuck the small retailers. If doing a big release meant twice as much BN revenue and the smaller bookstores had to sell their children to stay in business, they'd still do it.

    It's not about small bookstores. I doubt JK's publishers gave them a second thought. It's revenue. And it's not revenue from Fran's Book Barn, either.

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  18. If I ran a book shop by t_allardyce · · Score: 3, Interesting

    1. receive truck load of harry potter books

    2. sign legal document declaring they will never give me any more books if i break the contract

    3. start massive advertising (pre-planed) campaign: Internet, tv, driving a van around with a poster and megaphone all within minutes of getting the book in stock

    4. offer the books to the absolute highest bidders, take advantage of rich kids, yank the prices up as high as they can possibly go.

    5. Call up scholastic say: "If you want me to stop selling these books I will sell you my remaining stock.. for a fee, and even give you a list of people I sold them to."

    6. Proffit

    This isn't real DRM, and it certainly isn't to stop piracy, this is just their hype machine and if you play it right you can make some serious profit off it and probably quite legally except for that pesky civil court.

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  19. Print Harry Potter, No thanks by fl00ty · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I work for a book binding company here in the states, and with the last title we all had to sign contracts stating that if we even told anyone we were printing the book, we would be fired and legal action would be brought against us. We wrapped all the pallets of books in black plastic and had people guarding the trailer where they were stored, so this year when they came to us to print Half Blood Prince, we kept raising our price until they went away. Too much of a hassle for a title we only do every other year or so.

  20. Re:Potter To The Sheeple by jratcliffe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, my my, aren't we superior. Thanks for making me aware of my sheeple status (and not one of the elite with "even a little common sense"). Had it not been for your insightful comment, I would have continued to be under the delusion that I had in fact read Tolkien, Lewis, Pullman, Dahl, and Pratchett, and still liked the Harry Potter books. I guess I should go out and buy some new books, since a lot of those that appear to be sitting on my shelves must be figments of my "pathetic" imagination.