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Sci-Fi on the Cheap

lowbudgetfun writes "NYTimes.com is reporting on the Sci-Fi channel's huge investment (28 films for $21 million) for original B movies. Includes quotes from B Movie hero, Bruce Campbell." I especially liked this line from the article: "Shot on budgets ranging from $1 million to $2 million, Sci Fi's movies are made in money-saving locales like Bulgaria, Romania and Missouri."

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  1. I Wish by FS1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wish they would focus on producing more original series to replace the ones they dropped. I also think they should pick up popular sci-fi shows dropped by other networks. Farscape was one of the best Scifi shows on TV. While I didn't really care for Firefly, it has a proven audience. Scifi should be all over this property once the movie is released.

    I also wish that they would throw some of that money at JMS, and let him make "The Memory of Shadows" for TV.

    They should also focus less on topic such as ghosts and horror movies. IMHO these do not qualify as real scifi.

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  2. This is not exactly a good thing by Y-Crate · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here you have one very good reason why SciFi as a genre, is not taken seriously by most people over the age of 12.

    I enjoy a good number of B-Movies (and even a few C and D-list films), but I get worried when the predominant type of movie being produced is deliberately low-brow and sets the bar so low in fact, a first year film student could trip over it.

    The idea that SciFi can be well-written and produced with some care is hard for many people to accept these days, as all they see is schlock put together on the cheap as fast as humanly possible to give the channel in question a quick cash infusion

    In a day when even comic books and fantasy novels are taken seriously by the masses due to the amount of effort put into adapting them to the screen, it nearly brings a tear to my eye to consider that the bargain-bin product coming from The SciFi Channel is pretty much the cream of the crop these days.

    I really don't know what I would do if a studio announced they were hiring an extremely adept filmmaker and screenwriter to put The Foundation series into theatres.

    Probably cry.

    1. Re:This is not exactly a good thing by zerocool^ · · Score: 4, Insightful


      See, here's the thing though... I like star trek: TNG. Why? Because, it suggests that sometime in the future, mankind will unite, currency will be replaced by an understanding of needs and a willingness to participate in society, all the earth will stand as one. A place where we explore, not invade, a place where we bring peace, not capitalism to other cultures.

      Maybe TNG isn't as Sci-Fi as the elitests would like, but it's comforting in a time of uncertainty.

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  3. I smell a rat! and It'll be on budget for 1.5M by MrLint · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Every time I see a commercial for one of these cinematic disasters (and I don't just mean the actual disaster films) I cringe, and ask myself why are they wasting money on this crap. To this say I miss 'The Invisible Man' the series. I donno if they ran out of money or budget, but it was clever deep and well written, instead we get another snake of the week movie.

    On top of this, SciFi is cutting out the Stargate opening credits to get more advert time. I know *I* want sci fi to stay 'on air' so i can keep watching Stargate and BSG, but I feel like I'm getting the poo from a 1 million Genetically modified monkeys on typewriters thrown at me with these movies.

    PS. Dear SciFi. the idea of mutant screenwriting monkeys is available for a modest sum.

  4. Doesn't Look Cheap Enough by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If only the SciFi Channel followed the original formula for B movies that made them so great: low budget affects the special effects, and even the acting, but not the quality of the story. 99% of the stuff I see on that channel (as I channelsurf) wears all its small budget on its CG.

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  5. Re:MST3000 by sTalking_Goat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Oh, if MST3K is ever revived they'll have plenty of material to work with.

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  6. MOD UP plus comments by GuyMannDude · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Someone mod this up so those of us without NYTimes logins can read.

    The critics' disfavor doesn't seem to bother the folks behind the films, who have no pretensions to high art. Bonnie Hammer, the Sci Fi Channel president, likes to refer to the pictures as "popcorn movies for those who love the genre," adding, "Viewers come for the ride; it's a guilty pleasure." Jeff Beach, whose Unified Film Organization has made 20 films for the network, calls them "high-concept action-adventure movies with elements that are fun, whether a creature or a disaster."

    I think this is a very good point. There are many among us who will bemoan the fact that the shlock that the Sci-Fi Channel puts out makes our favorite genre look bad. Remember that it's not called The Thoughtful Science Fiction Channel, it's the "Sci-Fi" Channel. It's supposed to be a watered-down "lite" version of science fiction in the same way that "lite" cookies bear only a passing resemblance to a delicious full-fat treat. Yes, the movies they are making are terrible but look at what's out in theaters these days. It seems half the movies are horror films. That entire genre is largely a collection of poorly-executed guilty pleasures used by younger demographics as an excuse to get out of the house and indulge in a guilty pleasure. But, as has been cited on slashdot many times before, the movieplex is becoming an increasingly unpleasant experience. Sci-Fi Channel is simply providing an alternate venue for these low-quality thrillers. I think the Sci-Fi Channel has got a great idea. Now, I'm sure as hell not going to watch any of this crap myself. But that doesn't stop me from being impressed that Sci-Fi has finally started to get its act together.

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  7. Wow, none of that is science fiction by Urusai · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...just 1950s type monster flicks, by the sound of it. Thank you SciFi for taking the Sci out of Fi. Leaving us with Fi. I guess.

    1. Re:Wow, none of that is science fiction by ScrewMaster · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Sci-Fi channel has never been about science fiction, not in the fine tradition of Arthur C. Clarke, George O. Harrison and the other hard science fiction authors. Hell, having that John Edwards "Crossing Over" psychic crap turned me off to them for quite a while, just on principle. "Sci-Fi" channel, my ass. They're a fantasy escapist channel, producing films with a technological veneer to make them palatable to those who don't know the difference. About the only redeeming products they have right now are the two Stargate franchises. Those aren't exactly science fiction either, but they are incredibly well-produced and are very entertaining, and are about the only thing on that channel that I can stomach, besides some of their re-runs of older theater films.

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  8. Topical, My Shiny Metal Ass! by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From the article:

    The most important element of a Sci Fi film, Mr. Badish said, "is a topical film that has relevance to our audience. In a film coming up," he added, "stem cells are key to the plot; in another, it's mad cow disease.


    No, no, no, no!

    The MOST important element of a SciFi film is STORY.

    Topicality is about last on the list. I can not express how fucking sick and tired I am of shows that decide to do a "war on drugs" episode, or "child molester" or "euthanasia" or "terrorist" or "ebola" or "flesh-eating mold" or "song lyrics/video game inspires teens to kill" show. They are either totally dull, or so wacked out beyond reasonable that there is no way to willingly suspend disbelief.

    If you must do topical, do something that hasn't hit mainstream consciousness yet. Be pre-topical. At least that way, chances are that the BS you make up for the story won't be so obvious.

    Otherwise, just focus on the story and give me something to think about, not something that makes my bullshit-detector go off so loud that I can't concentrate on the show.

    Please?

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  9. Something to be happy about by NDPTAL85 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Lets just be glad that the Sci-Fi channel has gotten back to real actual science fiction, crappy though it may be, instead of the Crossing Over psuedo-mystical fantasy bullshit they were so enamored of before.

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  10. Re:To the NYTimes, Missouri IS Bulgaria by the_weasel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Had it occured to you that maybe all they were saying is that it can be cheaper to film in Missouri than it is in Hollywood, just like the same is true of Bulgaria and other mentioned Nations.

    Had it occured to you that thats a GOOD thing for your economies?

    Perhaps all the wailing and gnashing of teeth over the comparison is brought about solely because of the inferiority complex you are imposing on your self?

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  11. Rather than hire known B directors and writers by John+Meacham · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They should sponsor individuals just out of film/writing school with a vision who would be willing to work on a small budget to get their chance. Sure they might end up with some failures, but they also might produce some gems. All in all I think it would be a better investment than consistant crap.

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