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Community, OSL and Sun Jump to Drupal's Rescue

Robert Douglass writes "Drupal asked for help and received a major dose of it. Sun Microsystems has stepped up and donated a Sun Fire V20z server which will be the backbone of Drupal's new server architecture at the Open Source Lab. Furthermore, over $10,000 in donations were collected in a matter of a couple days (thanks to all the people who responded to the previous /. post!), plus thousands more in pledges from groups like Apress and CivicSpaceLabs... looks like the community loves Drupal!"

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  1. I've got pictures!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Pictures of the Sun equipment. Coral Cahed to boot.

    Damn I'm a nice guy!

  2. Opinions on Drupal by Dakrin1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Does anyone have any opinions on Drupal? How does it compare to other Content Management Systems like LCMS, Rainbow, DotNetNuke, and PHPNuke.

    1. Re:Opinions on Drupal by garcia · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well, considering that it is being backed so heavily by the community and is used on larger sites (i.e. mozilla.org) I would say that it has its place among the others...

      I haven't tried all of the above but I did examine PHPNuke for a short time because of Gallery's ability to easily integrate with it. I gave up on PHPNuke and went w/Drupal instead because of word-of-mouth even though Gallery v1 doesn't support Drupal integration.

      I came up with my own way to integrate my existing Gallery v1 setup into Drupal because their "blocks" allow you to run custom PHP code (or any code via external calls) in them.

      I have been quite pleased with Drupal and am looking forward to the new directions all the donations by the community, Sun, and OSL will bring.

    2. Re:Opinions on Drupal by SolusSD · · Score: 3, Informative

      I threw together a personal Drupal site in a matter of minutes: www.uwcreations.com straight forward/easy to use, but very powerful. I also use mambo.. but while it seems more flexible, it can be a nightmare compared to drupal.

    3. Re:Opinions on Drupal by drewzhrodague · · Score: 3, Informative

      Drupal seems to be a far better CMS than PHPNuke was, I had created a whole bunch of websites using PHPNuke.

      PHPNuke was great at the beginning, until kiddies started using the thing to send SPAM, post SPAM, and generally piss me off. Manual process to deal with that kind of crap.

      Drupal seems to have a couple of modules that let you deal with SPAM, though I haven't investigated it enough yet.

      I like how modular the code is, and I haven't needed to edit the Drupal code to make it do what I want, like I had to with PHPNuke.

      We're working on changing WiFiMaps.com over to Drupal, and I've alrealdy converted Recruiter-Rater over, using a nuke2drupal conversion script -- quite painless!

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    4. Re:Opinions on Drupal by dnadig · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So, I've run/am running sites on mambo, drupal, Postnuke, Xoops, and Wordpress.

      WP is superior for simple blogging

      Mambo is superior for running a "newsy" kind of site

      Postnuke is superior for running a "fanboy" kind of site with lots of galleries, downloads, and discussion boards

      I find Drupal interesting - if only because of the wierd taxonomy/node system. I think it's best used for non-traditional creative group writing, but it falls short of the others in their respective categories for numerous reasons. I've also found it SO tightly written that its very difficult to make significant modifications.

      All just my opinions of course.

    5. Re:Opinions on Drupal by garcia · · Score: 3, Informative

      See here for how I used a Bash script to integrate a random Gallery v1 image into Drupal.

      Slashdot won't let me post it anonymously, sorry.

    6. Re:Opinions on Drupal by afinn · · Score: 3, Informative
      Drupal is an excellent piece of software. Compared to other CMSs it is fast, modular, has a clean codebase and a gentle learning curve. I recently started using it after messing around with various other CMS systems over the last couple of years.

      To be honest its the first one that has really impressed me. I looked at slashcode, scoop, zope, plone, postnuke, mambo.

      When I started using drupal I got the same feeling as when I started using Mac OS X. To continue the OS analogy postnuke and phpnuke are more like windows whereas zope and plone are kinda linux of the CMS world.

    7. Re:Opinions on Drupal by blazerw11 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Drupal is very easy to customize. We turned it into a really cool location based community now complete with Google Maps. A place where you can share cool (or interesting, or weird) locations related to almost any interest.

      Then, you can take them with you on your handheld.

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  3. Re:New /. Feature? by Zweideutig · · Score: 3, Informative

    Drupal is a content management system, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drupal if you want a description.

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  4. Server overkill? by afinn · · Score: 5, Insightful
    So the old server was a Pentium Xeon 3Ghz with 1 GB of RAM. This server wasn't even dedicated to drupal - I believe it was shared with approximately 20 other sites.


    Now sun have donated a server with dual Opteron and 4G RAM. This alone would probably have been enough to host the drupal site wiht a serious improvement in performance. But they've also purchased 3 Dell 1850s with dual Xeons and 2G RAM.


    Given what was serving the site before, do they really need all this horsepower? With the unexpected server donation from Sun, could the money raised have been better spent on something other than more servers?

    1. Re:Server overkill? by garcia · · Score: 3, Informative

      With the unexpected server donation from Sun, could the money raised have been better spent on something other than more servers?

      If you had read the linked information from the blurb you would have found out that the Drupal team decided that putting all the money towards server/backend stuff is what the community would want.

      The community thought that they money they were donating was for a server to host Drupal at the OSL. When the donations went *way* over what Drupal originally needed the staff still felt that it should remain w/the server side.

      They also mentioned that they might have used some of that money to start up the Drupal Foundation but decided that additional money, already promised to them by various sources, would go to that instead (i.e. Summer of Code by Google).

  5. Drupal Info by Dakrin1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Oh, and I was curious what drupal was too, the slashdot link doesn't give much more info than that it's a CMS, and drupal.org is down (looks like they haven't installed the new hardware in time for slashdot).

    Here's the wikipedia with link:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drupal [wikipedia.org]

    Drupal is a content management framework, content management system and blogging engine which was originally written by Dries Buytaert and is the software used to power Debian Planet [1], Terminus1525 [2], Spread Firefox [3] and Kernel Trap [4], among others. Drupal is written in PHP using strict coding standards.

    Drupal is the English spelling for the Dutch word 'druppel' which means 'drop'.

    Though it started as a small bulletin board system, Drupal has become much more than just a news portal, thanks to its flexible architecture. Drupal has a basic layer, or core, which supports pluggable modules that enable additional behaviors. The modules available for Drupal provide a wide assortment of features, including e-commerce systems, workflow, photo galleries, mailing list management, and CVS integration. Drupal's taxonomy/classification module is especially interesting, in that it allows any content to be classified with a flexible tagging system.

    Some of the more special roles that Drupal has filled include company intranets, online classrooms, art communities and project management. Many feel that Drupal's focus on user communities is what makes it stand out from its competition.

  6. Re:Some may find it distasteful... by -noefordeg- · · Score: 4, Insightful

    OMG!

    The money they recieved were from donations. Not a penny was from someone who didn't want Drupal to have that money.

    "Donations like this should be going to people doing things worth being done"

    This is the stupidest thing I've read in a long time... Donations are given to people/projects which the donators think are doing something worthwhile, hence the donation!
    I can't think of a singel thing to better prove if something is of value than other people giving money to support the continued development.

    *shakes head*

    It is so simple really.
    You don't think Drupal is good? -Don't donate!
    If someone else think it's good and they donate, don't bitch and whine about it. Clearly they feel that Drupal is WORTH IT!!

  7. Re:New /. Feature? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    What's google? Do you have a link?

  8. Re:The name confused me 100% by f-bomb · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's because drupal has their own development infrastructure and does not use sourceforge's services. Just because a project isn't hosted on sourceforge doesn't mean its not relevant. I switched to drupal from Post-Nuke about 6 months ago and will never go back.

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  9. Re:not in place yet? by Black+Perl · · Score: 4, Funny

    either the new horsepower hasn't been put in place yet, or they need more money to buy better machines ;) (or optimise the software, duh)

    or maybe it got a sudden bump of popularity somehow... can't quite think of what it might be...

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  10. Tim Bray by zocle · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Its worth noting this entry from Tim Bray:
    http://tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2005/07/14/Drup al-Server
    It seems that he deserves some credit for starting the ball rolling.
    A nice comment in the article:
    What we have here is an ecosystem. Drupal has a problem, the community notices, Slashdot broadcasts, we help them out, a nice piece of infrastructure is strengthened, the tide rises and all our boats float a little higher.
  11. Re:New /. Feature? by LWATCDR · · Score: 5, Funny

    Drupal http://www.drupal.org/ is a content management system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_management_sy stem and runs on a computer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer. It is written in PHP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHP which you can read more about here http://www.php.nt/.

    Slashdot has now become "News for wannabe nerds".

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  12. Re:Now is the time to... by geiseri · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It was fixed earlier this week with the help of the drupal team. The biggest problem with drupal is that it requires so little babysitting to keep running it can get easy to ignore it when you are busy. Note that I am a KDE developer and not a web monkey, so I have bigger fish to fry than dorking with a server. The install that was present there was over 1 year old, and was missing a security patch that was issued the day before (the xmlrpc bug).

    Knowing this the drupal guys are working on a more automated way to push out updates so busy people like me who just want something to "just work" can do so safely.

    That said, I am pleased to note that the ISP has provided us with the names of the people who cracked the site. The kiddy who got in was nice enough to leave all of the logs unmodified, and left a few other tracks so it was pretty easy to confirm the source. Personally I think the liberal use some 10 penny nails on their joy department would be more amusing if only I had the time to get to Moscow. ;)

  13. Drupal Customizations by blazerw11 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's really not too hard, but there is a learning curve to understanding the "Drupal" way. We did make some changes to core Drupal code, but that was more us not yet grasping the best way to make changes.

    What is the best way? Customizing Drupal through the use of modules. We wrote a few new modules for locations and maps and hacked a few others for groups and users.

    We spent about 3 months customizing Drupal. However, the task was made more complex because we had to integrate it with our existing JSP site and existing database.

    Read the Customizing and Developing links to learn all you need to know.

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