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Microsoft and Yahoo! Fight Spam - Sort Of

kyndig writes "In a Forbes article, Microsoft claims that 90% of email on the internet is spam. To fight this, Yahoo! has teamed with Cisco in developing DKIM, a signature based email authentication. Not to be outdone, Microsoft is proposing SenderID, which examines an email to see if it is coming from an authorized server. Earthlink's chief technology officer, Tripp Cox, goes on to examine the pro's and con's of each specification and provides practical application results." From the article: "Critics have accused Microsoft forcing SenderID on the industry without addressing questions about perceived shortcomings. The company drew fresh criticism recently when reports claimed that its Hotmail service would delete all messages without a valid SenderID record beginning in November. While AOL uses SPF, many e-mail systems do not. If Microsoft went through with this, for example, a significant portion of valid e-mails would never reach intended Hotmail recipients."

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  1. Bad news by mfloy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This has bad news written all over it. These companies are going to try and use their size to push their technologies on everyone else. This will result in systems that are beneficial for Yahoo and Microsoft, but that don't adress the needs of everyone else. If something like this is done, it should be done internationally by a group of companies and individuals from a variety of backgrounds.

  2. The problem... Meetings by Alex+P+Keaton+in+da · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One of the main problems with this, in my OPINION, is that corporations can't keep up with individuals. It is sort of like how Geurrilas, from the time of the US colonies to Vietnam, have been able to put a hurting on huge armies.
    Corporations aren't as light on their feet as spammers and internet miscreants (for the most part- I know I am speaking in generalities).
    It takes many meetings over years it seems (Meetings- None of us is as dumb as all of us...) to come up with a new policy or system regarding spam etc.- commitees are formed, proposals made etc. Then, someone (or group) without meetings, without authorizations, comes up with a way around the new system.
    As has been said a zillion times before on here, by people more intelligent than I- the only way to stop Spam is to make it not pay, by having no one respond to it. It is like Drugs or Prostitution- if there were no client base, there would be no sellers....

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  3. Re:Heh by hal9000(jr) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not just Microsoft's old tricks. Many 800 lb. gorillas (Cisco, IBM, Intel) have done the same with more or less success. Most of the time, wrangling is done in working groups where vendors start deploying products based on early standard drafts, which commits them to lock-in, which then motivates them to fight for thier methods regardless of technical requirements. Besides, market dominant driven standardization is not always a bad thing. The anti-spam market is so fragmented that having a Microsoft force a decision may actually move a resolution.

  4. Re:Hashcash for mail would be better by Alioth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The trouble is many spammers are now using networks (say, 50,000 or more) of pwned Windows zombies. They are doing it on a huge distributed network - they don't care if calculating a hash slows them down. If each zombie only sends 100 emails per day, that's 5 million spam emails sent. You'd have to have an insanely long calculation time to make a dent on a zombie network.