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Linux Desktops in New Zealand Schools

nigelr writes "The New Zealand Ministry of Education has signed a deal with Novell New Zealand to provide SUSE Linux desktop licenses in schools. The article claims that while the price for a desktop license now matches what Microsoft charge, the new deal will significantly reduce the over all cost due to reduced charges for existing Novell products used in schools around the country."

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  1. Re:Isn't the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Linux is free. Support isn't. And if I was running a school, I would surley want somebody to yell at when things go foobar.

  2. Perhaps it more like Trancendental Meditation by waferhead · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When the guru tried to give it away for free, he was ignored.

    When he started SELLING "training" for insane prices, it became all the rage.

  3. Bugger! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    As a kiwi student, I'm saddened by this news,
    my hacking of unsecure school network systems days are over :-(

    But on the otherhand it is good to see the playing field levelled.

  4. Re:Isn't the point by Mrs.+Grundy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well sure it can be free. Sex can be free too, but as those here on Slashdot certainly understand, it is sometimes just easier to pay for somebody to supply it rather than go through all the trouble of figuring out how to do it the free way. I mean if you can get it for free more power to you, but don't hold it against those who need a little help and support.

  5. Re:Question.... by germ!nation · · Score: 5, Informative

    Clearly you didn't even read the whole summing up, let alone the article.

    They are paying the same price for their desktops but as part of that their single license with Novell means that whatever else they are using (Zenworks, Netware or whatever) costs are greatly reduced. Good use of purchasing power IMO.

  6. Additional Coverage by zaguar · · Score: 5, Interesting
    More reports:

    http://www.nbr.co.nz/home/column_article.asp?id=12 417&cid=3

    My take - I'm a student at Perth, Western Australia. My school recently got a whole bunch of iMac G5's, and Panther, and they are a nice set of machines. I run a heavily customized ubuntu/Gnome 2.10 setup at home and I would have to say that OS X is all that it's cracked up to be. It has a great interface and file/folder management system (finder), is stable, and seems to be easy to administrate (given that the sysadmins seem to do little work :D).

    It's a great choice for a school desktop, due to it's ease of use and solid support base. I use Linux at home and prefer it's data management capabilities, but there will always be a place for OS X in my heart.

    At least until the GNOME team creates an expose-like function

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  7. Re:Isn't the point by lasindi · · Score: 5, Informative

    Isn't the point of Linux that it's free and all that jazz? I mean... paying for it takes away a whole lot of the attractiveness IMHO.

    If you mean that it's free in the sense of it not costing any money, no, that's not the point. The point of the operating system that it's been bundled with, GNU, was to provide a "free" OS in the sense that the user could do whatever he wished with it, i.e. modify it and share it with others. The sharing aspect means that it's very easy to obtain without paying for it, but that wasn't the purpose. I paid for my copy of GNU/Linux. Why? I like Linux in large part because the source code is accessible, and I think good work deserves good pay.

    Freeware (in the sense of cost) has always been around in great quantity. What makes open source programs different is the *open source code*, not the fact that you can download it for free.

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  8. Similar thign happening n the UK by slot32 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There's a big underswell push for Linux in schools happening around the UK too...

    Times Educational Suppliment ran it a few weeks ago. You needed the paper version for the full article but this is a good summary and primer: http://www.tes.co.uk/2094985

    Now... Can everyone who has kids in the UK start asking the teachers about this at their next school visit?

    It's a pretty well known fact that if you TEACH *CHILDREN* to use Linux and not Windows from the start, it will filter up through the years and (with any luck) become the system of choice in the home too... Then the last 'bastion' will be industry... and with 1000's of up and coming children leaving schools with skills fully developed in Linux, the old excuse of 'training' kinda starts working against Microsoft. 'Cause none of the kids use it (nor want to). It's the same trick Microsoft used (Free O/S etc for schools).

    Hope I haven't failed to explain in enough detail all of this, and you can all 'join the dots' and see where this might be going.

    So... Start hassling your teachers NOW. I personally *am* getting involved in a new school to get all their computers on Linux from the start. When it opens in September.

    If you're *serious* about wanting to see a less monopolostic computing environment, but don't know where you should put your effort in to help... This is the place... IMO

  9. Re:Isn't the point by TuataraShoes · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Why is it so difficult, even for some on /. to grasp the difference between free and free.

    Gratis versus Libre

    • You have free speech, but still have to buy your own microphone.
    • You are free to travel, but buy your own ticket.
    • You're free to choose, but pay the expenses of your own distro.
    Supporting thousands of kids on desktops costs something. If you don't think so, then you try it. So who should carry the cost? These are state schools, the tax payer pays.

    Businesses may at times contribute, but that tends to lead to businesses wanting something back. Microsoft is happy to negotiate with schools. All they want is that the school perpetuates Microsoft's desktop monopoly.

    So the freedom we need is the practical freedom to educate kids without the curriculum being written by the mega-multi-nationals.
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  10. Re:Isn't the point by CmdrGravy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well you don't really pay up front for the sex, it's the support you pay for to make sure it stays on-line.