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Firefox 1.1 Scrapped

An Anonymous Reader writes: "The Firefox team has decided to scrap the planned 1.1 release (already in Alpha 2) and instead release the final version as 1.5 due to the significant number of bug fixes and changes. The 1.5 feature complete beta is expected next month." From the article: "We are planning for a Firefox 2.0 and 3.0, but will divide the planned work over (at this point) three major Milestones, 1.5 (September 2005), 2.0 (unscheduled) and 3.0 (unscheduled). All major development work will be done on the Mozilla trunk, and these releases will coincide with Gecko version revs."

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  1. Scrapped? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wouldn't it be more appropriate and less alarmist to say that Firefox 1.1 will instead be called Firefox 1.5?

    1. Re:Scrapped? by mattdm · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wouldn't it be more appropriate and less alarmist to say that Firefox 1.1 will instead be called Firefox 1.5?

      If the headline had said that, the slashdot editors probably wouldn't have even looked at it in the submission queue. The more alarmist entry grabs attention better, so has a greater chance of getting published. Basically, nothing to see here, move along.

  2. They really need to fix autoupdate by afidel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was running 1.0.4 and just happened to notice the mozilla.org slashblurb about a new version. I checked and the new version was 1.0.6 which had major security updates, yet when I did Tools->Options->Advanced->Software update nothing was found (and this is simply a manual way to trigger the normal update mechanism). If the update software can't find a new version with major security updates then what good is it?

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  3. Can you read this? by Henry+V+.009 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've spent the morning reading WONTFIX bugs on the Firefox text zoom issue. I'm feeling down on the browser just now.

    There is no good option for making text zoom permanent if you have bad eyes. You can kludge by zooming default fonts and then disabling everything else in CSS.

    The people working on Firefox are not interested in fixing this because "text zoom breaks page layouts." The fix that they've decided on, which may or may not come someday, is a page zoom feature that zooms everything. (Raise your hand if you love sideways scrolling.)

    I am amazed at the lack of consideration for people with bad eyes -- it's not a small number of people either. Mozilla composer bends over backwards to enforce alt tags for images, but when it comes to usability nobody cares.

    Maybe we'll start to see some consideration of this sort of thing once the average age of open source coders hits 50 and they find themselves having to squint more often.

    1. Re:Can you read this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Obviously you haven't used Opera. It does zoom both text and images, but doesn't make you scroll sideways because it wraps text on the screen. Unless you zoom in to, say, 500%. But then one word is 1000 pixels wide so you had that coming.

  4. Re:This is all getting quite confusing... by linuxci · · Score: 4, Insightful
    IE is free


    Free as in must pay for Windows to legally use it!
    They scrapped their UNIX versions ages ago (yes they used to support Solaris and IRIX) and the Mac version when Safari was released.

  5. Re:This is all getting quite confusing... by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Well, it's not free. If I want to install it on my computer in my office, I'm going to have to install Windows, and that means I'm going to have to buy a license. Instead I have Firefox running on an Ubuntu install and don't need to pay any license fee.

    The worst part of the tragedy of Microsoft's domination is the illusion that components like IE are actually free. I hate to break it to you, but you know the plastic toys inside cereal boxes that said "Free Whiz Bang Balloon Racer", well it wasn't free, and neither is Internet Explorer.

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  6. Is there any plan to ... by roubles · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is there any plan to start merging the most popular extensions into the browser itself ?

    I've noticed the biggest complaint people have with upgrades is that they render their extensions/themes incompatible.

    Also, it must be a pain for the extension authors to maintain extensions across so many different releases.

    If something is exteremely popular, maybe it should be part of the browser to begin with. Especially since so many people want it.

    Doing so will mitigate the upgrade issues, and they'll end up with a more functional browser.

    1. Re:Is there any plan to ... by Will2k_is_here · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is antithetical to Firefox's mission. Give the user a capable browser that contains no bloat (ie. stuff some users don't want).

      I looked at the 5 most popular extensions on mozilla's update site. The top 4 may be pretty popular but that's a bad idea since Mozilla would be guaranteed a lawsuit.

      The fifth is ForecastFox and a lot of people (myself included) don't want it in there.

  7. Re:Does this mean they'll fix launch.yahoo.com bug by nacs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who modded this interesting?

    The problem is with Yahoo--not Firefox. Yahoo uses an amazingly shitty browser detection system that lets old Netscape browsers through but still doesn't recognize Firefox.

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  8. How Firefox is more "free" than IE by tepples · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Firefox is not free either, because I must buy hardware to run it on.

    But it is closer to free than the alternatives:

    • With Firefox, you have a free choice of hardware to run it on. You can run it on PowerPC hardware, or you can run it on x86 hardware, unlike IE 6. Currently, if you want to run IE 6 (with Trident layout engine) on a Mac, you have to pay Microsoft for Virtual PC and Windows XP. Or if there is a large number of people on another kind of hardware, they can all pitch in to fund a port of Gecko to another platform; Microsoft would never allow that.
    • You're also free to upgrade your Firefox installation independent of your hardware or your operating system. In order to upgrade to IE 7, on the other hand, you have to toss out Windows 98/ME, Windows 2000, or Wine/GNU/Linux in favor of Windows XP with slipstreamed Service Pack 2 ($200).
  9. Re:Corporate deployments by plazman30 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Would you roll out IE 7 to 2000 desktops with a MSI created by someone other than Microsoft? I sure as hell wouldn't. And I am not going to push out an unofficial MSI of FireFox to that many seats.

    Corporate IT is all about ass covering, and you can't cover your ass with an unofficial MSI.