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British Police Demand Access To Encryption Keys

Posted by Zonk on from the among-other-things dept.

flip-flop writes "In the wake of recent terrorist attacks, police here in the UK have asked for sweeping new powers they claim will help them counter the threat. Among these is making it a criminal offense for people to refuse disclosing their encryption keys when the police want to access someone's files." From the article: "The most controversial of the police proposals is the demand to be able to hold without charge a terrorist suspect for three months instead of 14 days. An Acpo spokesman said the complexity and scale of counter-terrorist operations means the 14-day maximum is often insufficient."

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  1. Decrypt this! by alex323 · · Score: 0, Troll

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  2. Re:Won't be long now by kevin_conaway · · Score: -1, Troll

    Fear Uncertainty and Doubt

    Go back under your bridge

  3. Re:Oh yeah, that's why we threw their tea away by RWerp · · Score: 1, Troll

    I'm trolling, but... people who complain at every time some civil liberties are being curtailed in order to fight terrorism do not offer any other methods of fighting it. The bombings in London, Madrit and 9/11 all prove that 'the old ways' are not working anymore. The system must be changed, and those who criticize their governments practically over everything they do in this situation seldom offer any propositions of their own.

    --
    "Long run is a misleading guide to current affairs. In the long run we are all dead." (John Maynard Keynes)
  4. How else? by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: -1, Troll
    How else can we in the U.K. preserve the American-Way-of-Life?

    You've already perverted our west-London highstreets with your Blockbusters and your Baby Gap stores. Your filthy Nickolodeon and Soap Networks clog our satellite reception dishes. Your bizarre "humor" infects every avenue of communication not sullied by the right wing paranoia that drips almost intraveinously - all based on the same inferiority complexes that lead you to either worship or despise even a chip-shop lad from these parts.

    The British child has dissapeared from London streets - replaced by a translocated americanoid. One who leaves his British parents scratching his head in confused dismay. What is a "conker?" Laughing at the name "spotted dick."

    Polluted.

    At least, we can still manage to emblazon the thoroughfares with public announcements, proclaiming in letters fully 18 feet from base to summit:
    F C U K

    The shirt, seen on the streets today:
    F C U K
    America

    --
    "Flyin' in just a sweet place,
    Never been known to fail..."
    1. Re:How else? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      And there is the biggest difference right there. The rest of the world outside of America seems to be full of hateful people who complain endlessly. Do we complain about immigrants who came here over the last...what...400 years? Odds are the very thing you are complaining about is your own ancestors descendants.
      F C U K America...how childish considering all the Americans who died in WW2 protecting the very idiots who used the freedom from tyranny and oppression to just whine all the time. LOL..yeah that pretty much sums up all the countries who hate us right now.

    2. Re:How else? by twiddlingbits · · Score: 0, Troll

      If the British citizens didn't spend thier money the UK Gov't gives on the Dole (lazy bastards) the US Businesses wouldn't have any customers and no customers means they would close up and go away. Not to menton your immigration system is even MORE porus than the one on this side of the Atlantic! And this system where you get to be in the Gov't because your family has been there for 200 years since some King made him a Nobleman or something. Your country is it's own worst enemy!

  5. Re:Well Chomsky is in order here... by pete6677 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Chomsky's beliefs can be summed up quite simply. USA = bad. Whatever would be good for the United States, he will oppose. Whatever would be bad for them, he will favor. There are no exceptions.

  6. Re:Where are civil liberties truly valued? by kokoloko · · Score: 1, Troll

    "The real measure of a free, open and just society is how it behaves in bad times - not in good times"

    While this sort of thing sounds good, a few problems come to mind in the current context. Is the true test of a person's health that a person is only as healthy as they are when they're sick? Lance Armstrong was in pretty bad shape a few years ago, but he'll be remembered as one of the most fit people on earth.

    Whatever your measure of freedom is, it must be relative. So a country like the UK (in this case) may not be free according to some abstract critical standard, but when compared with all the states that exist or have existed it fares pretty well. Would you rather be an American living under the regime of the Patriot Act, or living in Iran or China?

  7. Re:Oh yeah, that's why we threw their tea away by Cat_Byte · · Score: -1, Troll

    I was expecting a comeback from the left like this.
    Don't be a fucking retard.
    Common leftist comeback fitting attitudes of most of them

    Iraq was one of the most prosperous nations in the Middle East before 10 years of sanctions destroyed it's economy.
    Turn on the TV...look at the situation they were in. The only ones prosperous were the ones in power. That $$ (even the oil for food $$) went straight to Hussein and was not spent on food or upkeep of utilities. And don't do like the rest of the left and leave out all of the facts except the ones that support your case. He ATTACKED A NEIGHBORING COUNTRY. He left the oilfields burning when he realized he couldn't keep it for himself. He murdered so many they may never find all the mass graves. He fired upon allied airplanes in the no-fly zone more times than most people know. The list goes on and on.

    Islamic extremists are hardly the only people killing anyone in Iraq. Iraq was *not* a misogynist medieval theocracy under Saddam! Get your blind prejudice out of your ass and actually take a look around!

    So how many hundreds of thousands would he need to murder to fit this profile? Millions like Hitler?

    History will show whether or not the Iraqi invasion was better or worse for the country as a whole. I'm not prepared to make that judgement

    You seem to have already made that judgement based on your comments...

    The average Iraqi is substantially worse off today than he was before the invasion.

    Huh? How? Utilities coming back online, jobs, women aren't stoned to death for showing their face....

    Are you seriously going to tell people that the US is better because we don't kill and torture as many people?

    You are the only one I see making that quote...

    --
    Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one the bus load of girls just went down.
  8. Re:Oh yeah, that's why we threw their tea away by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 0, Troll

    You know, I see this tired response way too often. Past stupidity by the US (and present stupidity) doesn't negate the value of any certain action. Seriously, your argument is stupid: it was wrong to overthrow Saddam because the US once supported him. That makes no sense. Regardless of anything in the past, Saddam was evil. Look at this:

    Don't give me a song and dance about how you helped free the Iraqi people by deposing Hussein. You helped subjugate them in the first place by propping him up.

    Let's make this clear: any dealings the US had with Saddam were wrong. Period. But, that doesn't mean that freeing the Iraqis from him is now wrong, also.

    I seriously want to know: why do people like you support Saddam Hussein?

    --
    Do you have ESP?