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IE7 Bugs and Reviews
An anonymous reader wrote to mention a Register article in which the possibility is raised of the current build dumping Yahoo and Google toolbars. At the same time, GWBasic writes "I've posted a review on IE 7 Beta 1. It is very clear that, unlike when Microsoft targeted Netscape, they are using their classic method of producing superior software by catering to the needs of the user. This is not IE 6 with a few features borrowed from the competition, but rather a clear step in the evolution of user-centric design." Flexbeta and ZDNet have looks at the new browser as well.
From TFA:OK...so IE7 fails the acid test...just like IE6. Are there any browsers out there (other than that patched-up Safari version) that have actually passed the Acid Test? Any of them available for use?
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The register article is wrong.
Napster-to-go says "Fill and refill your compatible MP3 player", which is a lie. It's not MP3. It's WMA with DRM.
Didn't read the article, did you? The author admits to only beeing experienced in the use of the 'Crazy browser' browser. He states that the new features in IE7 are not copies of features from other browsers. It is obvious from this that he hasn't used Safari or Firefox, which combined have implement every feature he lists except for the merged history. Even the design decisions on tabs, like the single close button at the right, is stolen verbatim from Firefox, which the author is obviously oblivious to.
You want IE7? Use Safari or Firefox.
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I checked out every css selector/property that I could find that I knew didn't work in IE 6. I was able to find no added support in IE7. They failed.
I think I'll stop here.
The Slashdot introduction says "This is not IE 6 with a few features borrowed from the competition, but rather a clear step in the evolution of user-centric design."
I'm sorry but that is about as wrong as it can be. Every single "new" feature mentioned in the article is already present in every other browser that I know of as a built-in feature or an add-on. This refresh of IE is clearly borrowed from the competition. Unless IE7 includes more changes than what was mentioned in the article, it will still be behind the day it comes out in Vista/Longhorn.
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From what I've read so far (direct from MSDN), there's nothing that significantly improves the lives of web developers. Only 2 of the many CSS bugs have been resolved, no improvement in CSS implementation/support, no good debug tools.
So IE7 will continue holding us back.
I have no idea if this works with IE7, but it's fine with IE6. (And it's another feature FF borrowed and now gets credit for.)
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The amusing thing is that Netscape tried this with betas of Netscape 4. So many people had issues with it that they dropped it before the final release. So Microsoft are only 8 years behind the competition ;)
I hear this every time someone mentions web standards. The fact is that "Joe User" is not as stupid as we imagine, he just has other things on his plate, but he still wants all his web apps to work.
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If you have a problem with software, the beta stage is _EXACTLY_ the time to complain it. And no, it doesn't just have to be directly to Microsoft - discussion within the community helps too.
Waiting for the final release and then saying "this feature sucks" will, quite rightly, be met with the response, "Why didn't you try out the betas and tell us about it at that time?"
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Yes, it is obviously a fanboy generated screed. I would like to see a real review of the browser by real web content developers who know about real UI design and what areas current browsers need improvement on. Wait there are a few reactions:
A reaction by Molly Holzschlag of thewebstandards.org, a reviewby Dave Shea of (CSS Zen Garden fame), or a review/reaction list on well known designer Shaun Inmans blog. But leave it to slashdot to link to some MS fanboy just to get a rise out of the flamthrower league.
I spent my yesterday morning screwing around with IE 7 and the truth is, it wants to be firefox really bad, but it's just not good enough. I admit that I am biased, but I have always used the browser I thought was superior, which means I used IE6 for a long time. After rebooting twice from the installation, it broke trillian and anything with a web browser control, that's probably related to it being a beta product though. The browser itself isn't even a reasonable duplicate of firefox. The tabs are an afterthought at best. I didn't find a way to bookmark tabgroups and the top two bars were locked in place, only the file menu and nav buttons could be moved. It was generally disagreeable and I had to remove it. This is my opinion: IE7 is a steaming turd that has been roughly molded to resemble firefox, just don't touch it, smell it, or _use_ it and it's fine.
Safari already does the dropdown box thing for back/forward.
3) Microsoft included an Add-on manger with this version of IE 7. It allows BHOs to be turned on and off.
Am I the only one that's ever done: Tools -> Internet Options -> Programs Tab -> Manage Add Ons Button in IE6?
Even their evolutionary stuff has already been done, by them! The screens look exactly the same in IE6 as 7.
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So far, only development versions of Safari and Konqueror do.
I'm not sure when they'll be available for public consumption, but the compliant Konqueror should be released with KDE 3.5.
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Correction:
6. (copied from Safari, which copied it from Opera) 2 In 1 Cancel/Refresh button.
Tools/Options/Tabbed Browsing/Tab Focus/Select Load Middle-clicked URLs in New Tabs. FF 1.0.6