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Lynn Settles With Cisco, Investigated By FBI

Following up on yesterday's story, daria42 writes "Security researcher Michael Lynn has settled a dispute with Cisco over his presentation on hacking the company's routers, which was given at the Black Hat security conference in Las Vegas this week. The two parties and Black Hat organisers have agreed not to further discuss the presentation, which contained techniques Lynn said could bring the Internet to its knees." Not all is good news, though. jzeejunk writes "The FBI is investigating computer security researcher Michael Lynn for criminal conduct after he revealed that critical routers supporting the internet and many networks have a serious software flaw that could allow someone to crash or take control of them."

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  1. The real issue is... by maotx · · Score: 5, Informative

    The real issue at hand, at least with Cisco router owners, is not the fact that Lynn released information concerning the exploit, but the fact that Cisco would not tell anyone about it. Time and time again has shown how security through obscurity is not real security, especially when Cisco's source code had been stolen.

    The reality of it is that Cisco fixed the exploit last April with a patch and no longer offers the vulnerable IOS for download on their site. The problem with that though is that they did not inform anyone what the patch fixed and who needed to download it. Most people who are vulnerable to this attack are those who have not updated to Cisco's version as of April (which are a few I'm sure. No point on upgrading a working system with a patch that could break you.)
    The real problem is Cisco and their disregard to release information over a severe vulnerability in order to press forward their new OS next year.

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  2. OUTGOING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

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  3. PDF of the Presentation by Irongeek_ADC · · Score: 5, Informative

    I found this linked on Nick84's site (http://www.rootsecure.net/): http://www.infowarrior.org/users/rforno/lynn-cisco .pdf If I'm correct, it's the slides that were taken off of the hand out cd. Another link from a Wired article: http://cryptome.org/lynn-cisco.zip

  4. TFA by MrAndrews · · Score: 3, Informative

    "There's no arrest warrant for (Lynn) and there are no charges filed and no case pending," Granick said. "There may never be. But they got a complaint and as a result they were doing some investigation."

    In other words, probably not really in trouble with the FBI.

  5. Re:I hope they nail him to the wall! by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why didn't he blow the whistle to the US-CERT, then? Yeah, this is a good idea, let's present it at a Black Hat convention. Jeez

    Do you have any idea who is at Black Hat these days? It is a huge security convention sponsored by hundreds of major computer and security vendors, even Microsoft is a sponsor. Heck the Department of Defense, the Army, West Point, Stanford Law School, etc. all had people giving presentations. If you want to get the word out when a major threat is being ignored, blackhat is a pretty good place to do it. It seems to have worked, don't you think?

  6. Re:No good deed goes unpunished. by cpeikert · · Score: 4, Informative

    Further, Lynn himself admitted that the vulnerability had already been patched by a Cisco update.

    One specific buffer overflow vulnerability was patched. But Lynn's presentation was a general approach to exploit any buffer overflow, with dire consequences. There is likely more exploitable code inside those routers; it's just a matter of time before some is found. At that point Lynn's attack could be executed.

  7. Cisco discloses actual vulnerability by mdouglas · · Score: 3, Informative

    Crafted IPv6 packet vulnerability.

    http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-2005 0729-ipv6.shtml

    http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1841669,00.as p

    Upshot is that if you aren't running IPv6 on the router, this doesn't affect you.

  8. Re:It may or may not be illegal by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've been writing letters to my Congressman and Senators about the DMCA for some time, but they're not listening.

    One day people in this country will realize that congresscritters and senators don't listen to their constituents anymore, and they haven't done so for a very long time. Mostly they listen to corporations and their lobbies.

    I'm glad you still have the proper democratic reflex a citizen should have when confronted with issues, but really you should realize "writing to your congressman" nowadays amounts to pushing a button that's been disconnected.

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  9. Re:No good deed goes unpunished. by jedidiah · · Score: 1, Informative

    Except he disclosed no such information.

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  10. Details of Cisco security hole by wfsavenger · · Score: 2, Informative
    Either this has been posted or soon will be. To me, this doesn't seem like the "massive Internet outage" risk that Michael was talking about...

    Cisco Internetwork Operating System (IOS®) Software is vulnerable to a Denial of Service (DoS) and potentially an arbitrary code execution attack from a specifically crafted IPv6 packet. The packet must be sent from a local network segment. Only devices that have been explicitly configured to process IPv6 traffic are affected. Upon successful exploitation, the device may reload or be open to further exploitation.

    Cisco has made free software available to address this vulnerability for all affected customers.

  11. Download the Presentation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
  12. So you didn't go through proper channels... by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 2, Informative
    Next time he should just post the vulnerabilities to /. as AC. Clearly Cisco would rather punish him than fix their problems.

    In the mean time, time to do a Freenet search for his paper. I can't believe all of the copies were destroyed.

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  13. You are making a *LARGE* assumption... by schon · · Score: 3, Informative

    In other words, give Cisco the opportunity to explain that patching vulnerabilities in major commercial vendor-supported code isn't just something that happens instantaneously.

    He gave Cisco *FOUR MONTHS* to fix it, which is hardly "instantaneous".

  14. Cisco issues advisory by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 2, Informative
    http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-2005 0729-ipv6.shtml

    Cisco Internetwork Operating System (IOS®) Software is vulnerable to a Denial of Service (DoS) and potentially an arbitrary code execution attack from a specifically crafted IPv6 packet. The packet must be sent from a local network segment. Only devices that have been explicitly configured to process IPv6 traffic are affected. Upon successful exploitation, the device may reload or be open to further exploitation.

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  15. Re:No good deed goes unpunished. by mcheu · · Score: 2, Informative

    I could see your argument if this fellow was in Canada, because here, some publications are banned because they promote hatred, or instruct people on how to commit illegal acts.

    As the FBI is investigating, I presume this is the USA. That's where companies like the well known Paladin Press are. For those that don't know, they publish some very weird stuff. They publish books on subjects like Improvised Explosives, weapons conversions (making a semi-auto into full-auto), improvised silencers, as well as how-to's on electronics for Surveillance and sabotage. Since they're still advertising in the back of various hobby magazines, I presume they're still legal in at least some states.

    What I find weird is, if stuff like that is still legal why would something like this be an issue? This is pretty lightweight stuff by comparison.

    By the way, being "investigated" doesn't mean anything. Law enforcement agencies around the world "investigate" useless crap all the time. All it requires is someone filing an official complaint and it has to be followed up. You can't infer guilt just because the police want to talk to someone.